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Theology at BioLogos: The Curious Case of the Wesleyan Maneuver – Part 2B

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Continuing, from Part 2A of this posting, our analysis of the BioLogos conversation between Crude and Dennis Venema:

Crude comes back one more time for clarification (67718):

“So then, you believe God knew what evolution would result in, in advance of His beginning the process. And of course, He had and has complete power over that process – He chose what would result. So you’d hold evolution to be – ultimately, and not necessarily in a way that requires intervening miracles – guided and purposeful. Do I have you correct?”

Again, a set of clear statements to which it should be easy to respond. Yet, when Venema returns, he again refuses speak to the word “guided” (nor will he speak to “purposeful”). He also does not confirm that God “chose what would result,” and he never confirms that Crude has understood him. Venema’s answer (67748) runs as follows:

“For me these questions are a subset of the larger free will / predestination question. I hold that God ordains and sustains all things, and that he is all-powerful. I also feel that he values freedom greatly – I am not a Calvinist. I believe God has given humans free will, and I also believe that he has given his creation freedom within the bounds he has set for it through natural law. How God balances his sovereignty with his delight in freedom is something I do not claim to fully understand. I tend to be ok with a little mystery.”

Notice the repetition of the ill-defined “sustains,” and the introduction of a new term, “ordains,” which Crude had not asked about. What does “ordain” mean for Venema? If it has its usual English meaning, then it implies purpose, so why would Venema not simply confirm Crude’s term “purposeful”? Or is “ordains” an attempt to avoid speaking of God’s “purposes” in evolution? We can’t tell. The evasiveness continues.

Is there any justification for this evasiveness? If there is, it is perhaps to be found in the claim that “these questions” belong to “the larger free will / predestination question.” That is, we can’t answer Crude’s questions about God’s control over the evolutionary process – which concerns subhuman nature – until we have an answer to the question of free will vs. predestination – which concerns human nature. Why is the one necessary to the other? Why do we need to know how God relates to the will of human beings in order to understand how he relates to rocks and genes and atoms and mushrooms? Venema does not say. He makes a theological claim, and expends no effort to defend it.

One thing is clear, however: Venema is lining up two opposing theologies. One, which he characterizes as “Calvinist,” emphasizes God’s power and sovereignty; the other, which he does not give a name, emphasizes God’s concern for “freedom.” This “freedom” includes the freedom of the human will, but it also includes the “freedom” of creation “within the bounds he has set for it through natural law.” What sort of “freedom,” we might ask, does a stone or a creeping fungus or a bolt of lightning have “within the bounds of natural law”? Venema does not say. But apparently God wants non-human nature to be “free,” too.

Why is Venema setting up this contrast between “Calvinism” and a “theology of freedom”? In terms of the history of Protestant thought, the answer is clear. For centuries there has been battle within the Protestant fold between the “Calvinists” and the “Arminians.” We will state this conflict in crude and unscholarly terms. According to the “Arminians,” the heartless “Calvinists” hold a doctrine of predestination (to salvation or damnation) that is so rigid that it leaves no room for genuine human free will; according to the “Calvinists,” the Arminians are soft on God’s omnipotence and sovereignty, and therefore end up with a doctrine in which human beings might be mistakenly thought to “save themselves” by their choice for Christ. Of course, these characterizations are oversimplified, and both sides generally deny the charges against them; and further, neither “Arminian” nor “Calvinist” is an unequivocal term, since there are many varieties of each type. But this is the popular conception, and it’s the one Venema seems to be operating under. He’s against the “Calvinists” and he’s for “free will”; and somehow that means he’s for “the freedom of nature” as well.

This may explain why Venema refuses the term “guidance.” Guidance implies that God somehow pushes or steers or impels nature toward an end which is God’s, not nature’s; but Venema wants nature to be “free.” So it seems that it is because he is “anti-Calvinist,” or in the “Arminian” camp (though he does not use the term), that he cannot accept the idea that God “guides” nature. At least, that is what we may infer, based on the sketchy theology he provides. And he probably objects to Crude’s notion that God “chose what would result” on similar grounds – that would be God overruling nature’s “freedom.” Even to speak of God’s “purpose” suggests that nature is subservient to ends defined by God, so Venema avoids that word, too. He prefers the more archaic-sounding “ordain” – a word not used often in daily speech, and therefore vaguer to the modern ear, and perhaps, for Venema, not as clearly suggesting direct control as Crude’s other words do.

So apparently, if “Calvinism” is true, then free will would be undermined; so we must deny “Calvinism” in order to preserve free will; but by doing that, we somehow free up “evolution” from strict determination by God. So, as a result, we should not speak of evolution as “guided.” This seems to be the logic of Venema’s position – at least, this is about the best sense we can make of the theological dog’s breakfast that he offers us.

Note that Venema himself seems to be aware of what a dog’s breakfast it is. He ends up almost apologizing for it, by saying that he doesn’t actually know how to reconcile God’s sovereignty over creation with God’s supposed desire for the freedom of nature. He says it’s a “mystery,” and his lame final comment is “I tend to be ok with a little mystery.” This is the best effort of the top-ranking (after Falk) Christian biologist at BioLogos, five years into the existence of the project, about how God controls evolution? That he doesn’t know how evolutionary contingency and divine sovereignty relate, but he’s “ok” with a little mystery?

Crude rightly (but politely) seizes upon this, in his follow-up comment (67758):

“Yes, there’s nothing wrong with mystery. Still, Biologos – understandably – puts limits on mystery. I’m sure you do not defend saying, “Well, earth is 6000 years old and all creatures were created fully formed rather than in a way involving common descent. How? Well, that’s a mystery.” or anything similar.”

Well said. BioLogos would not allow any appeal to “mystery” as a means of holding on to YEC in the light of the overwhelming (as BioLogos sees it) evidence for an old earth and common descent. They would not accept the incompatibility of, say, the results of radioactive dating with Biblical genealogies and creation days as just one of those “mysteries” that believers can be “OK” with. They demand a clear explanation of how YEC can be true, one free of contradictions. So how, then, can Venema duck the same demand for clarity regarding the contradiction espoused by himself – that God is sovereign over nature, ordains everything, yet does not guide evolution or impose his purposes on it?

In the appeal to “mystery”, Venema has, essentially, abdicated any responsibility, not only for answering Crude’s questions, but for saying anything non-trivial about the relationship of God to evolution. He absolves himself of any duty to the evangelical world to show that the BioLogos position on God and evolution is rationally coherent or logically self-consistent.

And that is the very last word he says on the subject. For, though Crude repeats his questions again, offering Venema all kinds of options for “picking and mixing” some things as determined, and others as not determined, by the will or guidance of God (67758), Venema will not speak again. Though his “non-Calvinist” theological position amounts to an assembly of undefined terms, stitched together by speculation, grounded in no traditional texts, and advanced as sheer assertion, “mystery” exempts him from having to defend or explain his position any further. And thus, an argument that would warrant an F in an undergrad philosophy class is allowed to stand as serious theological thought on the world’s prime TE/EC website.

We can see from the above analysis how closely the Crude-Venema conversation exemplifies the pattern of argument – evasion, obfuscation, misdirection, and finally an answer that is at the very best incoherent, and at the worst some form of heresy – that I’ve identified as the lead-up to “the Wesleyan Maneuver.” But so far we can call it only the “I’m not a Calvinist Maneuver.” The next question, then, is how Venema’s position connects with Wesleyanism. I’ll turn to that question in Part 3.

To be continued …

Comments
BTW, I'm defending BioLogos' view as being compatible with Christianity. But I don't agree with their view. Yes, I think the indeterminism that we seem to see in Nature may be a sign that God even wants non-sentience to have some freedom. But it is a freedom that we see God overriding again and again in the Bible. I see no reason to think that God would constrain Himself from intervening in Nature and causing things to happen that wouldn't ordinarily happen in order to direct Natural history.Bilbo I
May 29, 2012
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Hi Jon, 1) Does God love freedom above all else? I wouldn't know. But I think God prefers being loved by free creatures, than by automotons. But I'm a liberal Democrat. Do conservative Republicans prefer being loved by automotons? 2) As far as God and gambling are concerned, I wonder how much comfort Job would have obtained in knowing that his sufferings were because of a bet between God and Satan.Bilbo I
May 29, 2012
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Hi Eric, 1) Yes, I think TEs need to be clear that they are referring to the biological theory of evolution only. 2) BioLogos has brought up the example of the Sierpinski triangle a few times to illustrate how a random system can come up with a very predictable pattern. So it seems logically possible that God has provided enough built-in constraints in our Universe so that the outcomes of random evolution will still be predictable. Simon Conway Morris seems to suggest that this is what is being displayed with convergent evolution. I'm not convinced that he is right. But I'm not convinced that he is wrong, either. 3) But let's take the worse case scenario: evolution is totally unpredictable, and the chances of getting human-like creatures is infinitesimal. There are cosmological models that predict that our own universe is actually infinite in space. And there are cosmological models that predict infinite universes. It is possible that God could use either one in order to eventually produce us. I don't think He would. But He didn't ask me for my opinion. The point is that if God wanted to, He could create an infinite number of worlds, just so that we would eventually appear by means of Darwinian evolution.Bilbo I
May 29, 2012
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I think she can say that God loves freedom so much that He has even allowed Nature to have it.
Bilbo, one of the things that irks me in the BioLogos "freedom" thinking (and that of very many of other top TEs) is the kind of sweeping assumptions made about God on zilch evidence. And of course the fact that the disparate concepts of "randomness" and "freedom" are merged into one. On the first, where does the idea come from that God loves freedom above all else? Liberal democrats do (and particularly Americans, which is why Iraq and Afghanistan are like they are), but I'd be interested to see a Scriptural case for God being an American. I'd be upfront, and say that from 47 years of Bible study, freedom is a very specific theme centred around liberation from sin, and isn't a fundamental theme of God's government at all. Even liberation fromn sin is supposed to lead to slavery to Christ. On the second, using randomness in the hope of making gains is called "gambling". To pick up on johnnyb's point about spiritual comfort, I get a lot of comfort in trouble realising that God's purposes are too high for me, little comfort from "advisors" who think they have a hotline to those inscrutable purposes, and none at all from someone who tells me that I'm suffering because God's game of dice isn't quite working out for him.Jon Garvey
May 28, 2012
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Bilbo I wrote:
Although I’m an ID proponent, I don’t think there is a good theological objection to Darwinian evolution.
I generally agree with this point, at least insofar as we mean Darwinian evolution in the semi-narrow sense of change over time, RM+NS, common descent, even descent of man. However, "broad" evolution, what might be understood as the larger world paradigm of evolution as so often embraced and preached by proponents of evolutionary theory, is theologically problematic in at least the following ways: (i) To the extent that evolution is seen, as it often is, as a single process that accounts for all of reality, then in that sense the idea that there is something either before-in-time or beyond-in-scope of the purely physical and material universe can be seen as incompatible with such a wholly materialistic and naturalistic view of reality. To the extent that any theology proclaims a reality beyond the tangible physical and the material -- whether angels, spirits, souls, visions, miracles, prayer, divine inspiration, life after death, and so on -- such a view is incompatible with a purely natural and material doctrine. (ii) To the extent that evolution is understood, as it generally is, to operate without any plan, purpose or greater meaning, and without, as Huxley stated "either need or room for a creator," then to that extent evolution is in contrast with theology. This is precisely why Dawkins excitedly proclaimed that evolution allowed a person to be an "intellectually fulfilled atheist." This is also what prompted Will Provine to assert that "there are no purposive forces of any kind, no Gods . . ." (iii) To the extent that a theologian believes (and perhaps not all theologies do, but many do) that man is created in the image of deity (whether physically or in mental capacities, sensibilities, reason, intelligence, potential and so on), then to that extent the evolutionary narrative of an unguided natural process leading to man, becomes incompatible with theology. For if both descent of man and the "image of God" are taken seriously, then the only two logical alternatives are either: (i) evolution was somehow guided to the right solution (such guided evolution being a decidedly non-Darwinian and non-mainstream kind of evolution), or (ii) evolution just happened to stumble upon the "image" of God by an incredible coincidence of the cosmic lottery . . . one imagines God holding his breath, crossing his fingers, and tapping his pencil nervously, hoping that perhaps this time around evolution will stumble upon the right result and produce something in his image . . . ----- I realize it is possible to speak of evolution in more general terms of basic physical mechanisms leading from point A to B. Many of us try to be careful to use evolution in this narrow sense and I suspect that is what you had in mind. Yet we need to remember that when evolution is used by proponents of evolution, in textbooks, and in the media generally, although perhaps not stated it is almost always understood to mean a completely natural and material process operating without any guidance, plan or purpose. It is not the specific mechanisms of biological change, but rather these (often unstated) underlying assumptions of evolutionary doctrine that run counter to theological moorings.Eric Anderson
May 28, 2012
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Hi Johnny, I'm sorry, but you weren't very specific. What is the current line of thinking being developed by D'souza? I agree that Natural evil is evil. Therefore we should be careful about attributing it to God. I much prefer attributing it to Satan. However, that means that God has allowed Satan to cause Natural evil. Why would God do so unless He had good reasons for it? Does a Christian Darwinist need to attribute Natural evil to God's proximal cause? I think she can say that God loves freedom so much that He has even allowed Nature to have it. Agreed this is not at the same level as human freedom, where we as free moral agents make conscious choices, some of which are evil. But if there is really indeterminacy in Nature, I think one can legitimately think of it as a kind of freedom. But meanwhile, if a Christian doesn't accept indeterminacy in Nature (or even Satan's agency in Nature), but maintains that God has caused all Natural events, then that means that they think God has caused Natural evil. Do we really want to attribute such tragedies to God's direct actions?Bilbo I
May 28, 2012
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Bilbo - That's the current line of thinking being developed by Dinesh D'souza. I'm not sure I totally buy it, but it is certainly a worthwhile contribution. It's actually kind of interesting, because from a practical pastoral standpoint, telling people that things happen as part of a bigger plan is healing, but being specific about what that plan is tends to be maddening. I'm not quite sure why, but as one whose family has been on the receiving end of a lot of natural evil, I can only say that it is true. It also has a ring of incoherence with Christian theology, and it's the same one that evolution has. In Christian thought, death is the enemy that is being defeated. In evolutionary thought, death is the hero that makes the rest of life possible. On the one hand, there is a separation of physical and spiritual death, but, on the other hand, physical death is part of the same condition that brought about spiritual death. As a side note, thinking about the evolutionary theology of death makes me think of a hysterical book I once read called "The Universe Story" by Swimme and Berry. The authors tried to show how every mass extinction event was actually a good thing in disguise, but ended the book by saying that Walmart was irredeemably evil. Back to the original ideas, participating in the suffering of Christ is now thought of as a good thing, and certainly suffering in a natural disaster is somehow part of that. But it seems to me that just as Christ's suffering was only needed because of something *wrong* in the world, our suffering, if it mirror's Christs, is also because of something wrong, whether it is human or natural. Anyway, just some food for thought on the subject.johnnyb
May 28, 2012
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Hi Johnny, I agree with your assessment that Falk's and Ayala's argument only works if Nature is an actual agent, making free conscious decisions. Since we don't think Nature is conscious, I think their theodicy fails. But they could stll maintain that Nature is "free" in the sense of being non-determined. God would still be responsible for Natural evil, but He is allowing it for good reasons. Since there is Natural evil, whatever the proximal cause, God is ultimately responsible for allowing it, but we trust that He has good reasons for doing so.Bilbo I
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Hi Thomas, I've been holding my breathg all day, waiting for part 3. Although I'm an ID proponent, I don't think there is a good theological objection to Darwinian evolution. But perhaps you have found one. I can hardly wait to hear it.Bilbo I
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The other thing which should be pointed out is that if sufficient "freedom" is given to "the universe" / "creation" / "whatever", it actually becomes an intelligent design position.johnnyb
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