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Edward Blyth
Edward Blyth (1810-1873)

Of course today, for biologists, Darwin is second only to God, and for many he may rank still higher.

— Michael White, 2002

1. Was Darwin a plagiarist and charlatan of limited intellect rather than the deity his followers portray him to be?

2. Was the creationist Edward Blyth the true pioneer of natural selection?

3. Was Blyth’s conception of natural selection as a mechanism of preservation versus a mechanism of innovation the more accurate characterization of what natural selection really is?

I wish to remain open-minded on these issues as they deal with history, and history is difficult to reconstruct. I assert is that these hypotheses are worth exploring, though not necessarily absolute truth. However, as I studied the topic further, it became clear a cloud of suspicion regarding Darwin could not be put to rest.

I now turn to the work of a very prominent anthropologist and ecologist by the name of Loren Eiseley (1907-1977). Eiseley was the head of the Anthropology Department at University of Pennsylvania and president of the American Institute of Human Paleontology before becoming the Provost of the University of Pennsylvania. By all counts he was a first rate scholar. He published several books about Darwin: Charles Darwin, Darwin’s Century, and Darwin and the Mysterious Mr. X: New Light on the Evolutionists.

Edward Blyth in Wikipedia:

Loren Eiseley, Professor of Anthropology and the History of Science at the University of Pennsylvania, spent decades tracing the origins of the ideas attributed to Darwin. In a 1979 book, he claimed that “the leading tenets of Darwin’s work “the struggle for existence, variation, natural selection and sexual selection” are all fully expressed in Blyth’s paper of 1835. He also cites a number of rare words, similarities of phrasing, and the use of similar examples, which he regards as evidence of Darwin’s debt to Blyth.

The above is taken from Darwin and the Mysterious Mr. X: New Light on the Evolutionists which was, curiously enough, published posthumously by Eiseley!

My hypothesis is that Edward Blyth should have been given far more credit for the theory of natural selection. Because Blyth was a creationist, he did not see natural selection as an adequate mechanism for biological innovation. He believed natural selection as primarily a means of preserving species, not primarily creating large scale biological innovations. Even though a creationist, he seemed open to some forms of evolution (as creationists are today), and it would be hard to argue that he believed in the absolute fixity of species. Blyth’s position on natural selection would be consistent with many IDers and creationists today.

It was Darwin who promoted the hypothesis that natural selection could be a designer substitute, but the basic concept of natural selection is attributable to Blyth. At the end of the essay I will provide links to papers by Blyth which I believe Darwin plagiarized. Keep in mind, Darwin’s book was published in 1859, 24 years after Blyth stated the fundamental tenets of Natural Selection. Here are a few highlights however:

Blyth in 1836:

It is a general law of nature for all creatures to propagate the like of themselves: and this extends even to the most trivial minutiae, to the slightest individual peculiarities; and thus, among ourselves, we see a family likeness transmitted from generation to generation.

When two animals are matched together, each remarkable for a certain given peculiarity, no matter how trivial, there is also a decided tendency in nature for that peculiarity to increase; and if the produce of these animals be set apart, and only those in which the same peculiarity is most apparent, be selected to breed from, the next generation will possess it in a still more remarkable degree; and so on, till at length the variety I designate a breed, is formed, which may be very unlike the original type.

The examples of this class of varieties must be too obvious to need specification: many of the varieties of cattle, and, in all probability, the greater number of those of domestic pigeons, have been generally brought about in this manner. It is worthy of remark, however, that the original and typical form of an animal is in great measure kept up by the same identical means by which a true breed is produced.

The original form of a species is unquestionably better adapted to its natural habits than any modification of that form; and, as the sexual passions excite to rivalry and conflict, and the stronger must always prevail over the weaker, the latter, in a state of nature, is allowed but few opportunities of continuing its race. In a large herd of cattle, the strongest bull drives from him all the younger and weaker individuals of his own sex, and remains sole master of the herd; so that all the young which are produced must have had their origin from one which possessed the maximum of power and physical strength; and which, consequently, in the struggle for existence, was the best able to maintain his ground, and defend himself from every enemy.

The concepts of natural selection and even sexual selection are laid out plainly, even the concept of adaptation and the struggle for existence!

Here is Blyth in 1836 again:

The true physiological system is evidently one of irregular and indefinite radiation, and of reiterate divergence and ramification from a varying number of successively subordinate typical plans; often modified in the extremes, till the general aspect has become entirely changed, but still retaining, to the very ultimate limits, certain fixed and constant distinctive characters, by which the true affinities of species may be always known; the modifications of each successive type being always in direct relation to particular localities, or to peculiar modes of procuring sustenance; in short, to the particular circumstances under which a species was appointed to exist in the locality which it indigenously inhabits, where alone its presence forms part of the grand system of the universe, and tends to preserve the balance of organic being, and, removed whence (as is somewhere well remarked by Mudie), a plant or animal is little else than a “disjointed fragment.”

This is astonishing! Blyth offers the concept of environments creating adaptive radiations!

Then Blyth in 1837:

A variety of important considerations here crowd upon the mind; foremost of which is the inquiry, that, as man, by removing species from their appropriate haunts, superinduces changes on their physical constitution and adaptations, to what extent may not the same take place in wild nature, so that, in a few generations, distinctive characters may be acquired, such as are recognised as indicative of specific diversity? It is a positive fact, for example, that the nestling plumage of larks, hatched in a red gravelly locality, is of a paler and more rufous tint than in those bred upon a dark soil.17 May not, then, a large proportion of what are considered species have descended from a common parentage?

Is this a stretch? Note what Ernst Mayr had to say:

The Missing Link

Eiseley (1959) vigorously promoted the thesis that Edward Blyth had established the theory of evolution by natural selection in 1835 and that Darwin surely had read his paper and quite likely had derived a major inspiration from it without ever mentioning this in his writings … Darwin quite likely had read Blyth’s paper but paid no further attention to it since it was antievolutionary in spirit and not different from the writings of other natural theologians in its general thesis

In fact what is a bit incriminating is Darwin owned copies of Blyth’s work, and that these copies have Darwin’s notes in the margin. Reading Blyth, it really is hard to see that Darwin made any innovation except the illogical conclusion that natural selection can create large scale biological complexity and design. As Allen Orr said, “selection does not trade in the currency of design”.

Something interesting is also apparent: there were a lot of naturalists who doubted the permanence of species, and Blyth was among them. Nevertheless, Darwin wrote in 1876, contrary to the truth:

I never happened to come across a single [naturalist] who seemed to doubt about the permanence of species …

Darwin effectively claims that he was singularly exceptional in his belief that species could be transformed by the environment. This claim is clearly untrue! The suspicion then arises whether Darwin was lying. In fact, Professor George Simpson acknowledges the appearance of lying with a bit of disbelief (the missing link):

These are extraordinary statements. They cannot literally be true, yet Darwin cannot be consciously lying, and he may therefore be judged unconsciously misleading, naive, forgetful, or all three.

Thus, Darwin’s behavior was so obviously suspicious to some that his admirers had to make excuses to explain away the appearance of lying.

The discussion of this topic will obviously be more than I have space for here, and I welcome input in the comments section if there are any relevant data points. But I close with some thoughts regarding Darwin’s genius (or lack thereof) or Darwin’s integrity (or lack thereof):

Professor C.D. Darlington writes The Mystery Begins

[Darwin] was able to put across his ideas not so much because of his scientific integrity, but because of his opportunism, his equivocation and his lack of historical sense. Though his admirers will not like to believe it, he accomplished his revolution by personal weakness and strategic talent more than by scientific virtue.

Thomas Henry Huxley Darwiniana Obituary:

Shrewsbury School could find nothing but dull mediocrity in Charles Darwin. The mind that found satisfaction in knowledge, but very little in mere learning; that could appreciate literature, but had no particular aptitude for grammatical exercises; appeared to the “strictly classical” pedagogue to be no mind at all. As a matter of fact, Darwin’s school education left him ignorant of almost all the things which it would have been well for him to know, and untrained in all the things it would have been useful for him to be able to do, in after life.

Thus, starved and stunted on the intellectual side, it is not surprising that Charles Darwin’s energies were directed towards athletic amusements and sport, to such an extent, that even his kind and sagacious father could be exasperated into telling him that “he cared for nothing but shooting, dogs, and rat-catching.”

Sir Gavin de Beer:

The boy [Darwin] developed very slowly: he was given, when small, to inventing gratuitous fibs and to daydreaming

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Lies-and the thrills derived from lies-were for him indistinguishable from the delights of natural history or the joy of finding a long-sought specimen.

John and Mary Gribben:

… he devised a plan so cunning that even Machiavelli would have been proud of it. During 1845, Darwin worked on a second edition of his successful journal of the Beagle voyage, and added new material to the descriptions of the living things he had seen in South America. These new passages look innocuous enough in themselves. But as Howard Gruber pointed out in his book Darwin on Man (Wildwood House, London, 1974), if you compare the first and second editions … you can locate all the new material … string it together to make a coherent ‘ghost essay’ which conveys almost all of Darwin’s thinking about evolution [in 1845]. It is quite clear that this material must have been written as that coherent essay, then carefully chopped up and inserted into the journal.

The whole case of Darwin’s plagiarism was laid out rather tediously in Charles Darwin — The Truth? Interestingly the essay mentions Brian Goodwin and our very own John Davison here.

I hope this essay inspire some to revisit these important issues. If the hypothesis inspired by Eiseley is true, and if natural selection is an inadequate explanation for biological design, and if it turns out that Darwin was little more than a plagiarizing opportunist making illogical extrapolations of Blyth, then Blyth will be the one history smiles on, and Darwin will be the one history despises.

References to Blyth:

An Attempt to Classify the ‘Varieties’ of Animals with Observations on the Marked Seasonal and Other Changes Which Naturally Take Place in Various British Species, and Which Do Not Constitute Varieties by Blyth in 1835.

Varieties of Animals Part 2 by Blyth in 1835

Observations on the Various Seasonal and Other External Changes Which Regularly Take Place in Birds by Blyth in 1836

Seasonal and Other Changes in Birds – Part 2 by Blyth in 1836

Seasonal and Other Changes in Birds – Part 3 by Blyth in 1836

Seasonal and Other Changes in Birds – Part 4 by Blyth in 1836

On the Psychological Distinctions Between Man and All Other Animals by Blyth in 1837

Psychological Distinctions Between Man and Other Animals – Part 2 by Blyth in 1837

Psychological Distinctions Between Man and Other Animals – Part 3 by Blyth in 1837

Psychological Distinctions Between Man and Other Animals – Part 4 by Blyth in 1837

UPDATE 8/31/2006 I will link to opposing opinions on the net if I feel the scholarship is worthy. Here is Dr. N. Wells at ARN : Salvador on Blyth and Darwin

Comments
If I may ask, what notebooks were the notebooks bowler was using to prove Darwin didn’t plagerize, was it Darwin’s notebooks?
Yes. BobBob OH
August 27, 2006
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Barbara Forrest demonstrated on the stand at Dover that she has no credibility on this issue. To her, being a design theorist, by definition, makes one a creationist.
Q. Is Dr. Ken Miller a creationist? A. Dr. Ken Miller is an evolutionary biologist who is also a Catholic.
So is Behe.
Q. Would you consider him a creationist? A. Not in the sense, no, I would not. Q. Well, Dr. Miller testified in this case that, quote, God is the author of all things seen and unseen, and that would certainly include the laws of physics and chemistry, end quote. Is that a creationist talking? A. In his own personal viewpoints, I understand Dr. Miller to be a theistic evolutionist. And that is a position that intelligent design proponents vehemently object to. They do not recognize it as a valid position. Q. When you say, intelligent design advocates object to it, are you talking about all intelligent design advocates object to that? A. Specifically, Dr. William Dembski has stated that, design theorists are no friends of theistic evolution. And that is a sentiment shared by at least the major figures in the intelligent design movement that are the subjects of my research. Q. Michael Behe, is he one of them? A. Michael Behe, as I understand him, is a creationist. Q. And he would attack Ken Miller's viewpoint that God is the author of all things, seen and unseen? A. I'm not sure what Professor Behe would say about Professor Miller's viewpoints. I'm sorry. I don't have a specific comment by which to judge. ... A. Dr. Miller, as I understand him, is not a creationist. He certainly believes in God. He has been very open and up front about that. But his view about the science is that he accepts evolutionary biology, and he finds no inconsistency between his understandings as a scientist and his viewpoints as a Roman Catholic.
Once again, same for Behe.
Q. Well, using your methodology then and accepting what Dr. Miller has said about God, the creator of all things seen and unseen, should you disregard anything that Ken Miller says as unscientific? A. It would depend, sir, on a specific statement. I can't make that assessment based on simply a hypothetical, very general question of the kind that you're giving me. Q. What other information do you need? A. Could you give me a specific statement? Q. Well, Dr. Miller testified, quote, God is the author of all things seen and unseen, and that would certainly include the laws of physics and chemistry.
At which point the prosecution objects. Babs hasn't one bit of objective evidence to separate Behe from MIller in labeling one a creationist and the other not.Charlie
August 27, 2006
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Thanks for the offer, Sal. Here is attempt #2. (good luck to me...) Zachriel, You have misread the letter by Darwin to Hooker. It is, in fact two letters, one to Hooker and one to Fox, with what appears to be very sloppy editing. The reference to “my father” is not by Charles to his father, but by Charles’s son, Francis , to Charles. The notes pinned to it are referenced elsewhere as Charles’s (as was his custom) , not his father’s. Also there is no mention in the real letter about Chambers being the author. The information about his authorship is an editorial with the parenthesis unfortunately not closed in the version you read. This was not information that Darwin had at the time.
Only in 1884 (long after Chambers’ death) with the publication of the 12th edition, was it revealed that Vestiges was written by Robert Chambers.
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/phrenology/vestigesintro.html The book was still anonymous to Darwin in 1854 when he wrote this letter to Huxley: http://darwin.lib.cam.ac.uk/perl/nav?pclass=letter&pkey=1587 After starting this reply I found this reference which clears the matter up: http://www.georgiasouthern.edu/~jzarrell/Thesis.html
Despite Vestiges’ immense popularity, however, Chambers made no headway in convincing the scientific community that his work was to be taken seriously. Yet the pseudo-scientific book did have Darwin’s undivided attention; as one who took his life’s work seriously, Darwin scrutinized it methodically. According to Francis Darwin, “My father’s copy [of Vestiges] gives signs of having been carefully read, a long list of marked passages being pinned at the end” (Life and Letters 1.301). Darwin’s intensity is understandable when we recognize him for the man of strategy that he was and the stake that he held in the race to become science’s next Copernicus.7 Francis went on to mention how his father’s careful inspection of Vestiges caused him to notice and avoid many errors that he perceived had cast an unscientific light on evolutionary theory. On the other hand, Darwin also must have noticed Chambers’ manner of presentation and perhaps grudgingly acknowledged the positive response that Vestiges had achieved as a result. Chambers had beaten Darwin to public acclaim even though Vestiges’ version of evolution, at least in Darwin’s mind, was an insult to science. His thoughts are revealed in his 1844 letter to Joseph Hooker: “I have also read the “Vestiges,” but have been somewhat less amused at it than you appear to have been: the writing and arrangement are certainly admirable, but his geology strikes me as bad, and his zoology far worse.” (301-302) He referred again to the book in an 1845 letter to his cousin William Darwin Fox: “Have you read that strange, unphilosophical but capitally-written book, the “Vestiges”: it has made more talk than any work of late, and has been by some attributed to me–at which I ought to be much flattered and unflattered. “(301) Darwin probably felt more unflattered than flattered, but certainly not defeated. In fact, the entire development had almost certainly strengthened his resolve. He was first able to decipher scientific and “unphilosophical” errors in Vestiges and also sit back and observe the reaction of the scientific community to them. In doing so, Darwin would avoid the same mistakes (or what Victorians would perceive as mistakes). And as a careful observer, Darwin would emulate some of what made Vestiges successful, what  he  called  “writing and arrangement”  that was  “certainly admirable”  in a book  “capitally written.” Darwin, the calculating scientist, may have lost the battle but would eventually win the war as the definer of evolutionary theory. His motivation to succeed is evident from part of another letter written to Asa Gray in September, 1857: “In regard to my Abstract, you must take immensely on trust, each paragraph occupying one or two chapters in my book. You will, perhaps, think it paltry in me, when I ask you not to mention my doctrine; the reason is, if any one, like the author of the “Vestiges,” were to hear of them, he might easily work them in, and then I should have to quote from a work perhaps despised by naturalists, and this would greatly injure any chance of my views being received. “(Life and Letters 1.478) After Vestiges, the scientific community was still waiting to be presented with a satisfactory evolutionary theory. As a result, the door remained open for Darwin’s views to be “received.”
Notice there is no mention of the fish-reptile transition, as this is a note Darwin pinned in his own copy (as was his custom) which the editor, Francis, mentioned. Comment by Charlie — August 27, 2006 @ 10:38 pmCharlie
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The more that I look into the preceeding writings, I wonder if his only major contribution is the idea that natural selection is a mechanism of large-scale design and the primary means of evolution.
This is certainly what he is primarily credited for. It is generally recognized Darwin drew on a number of concepts that were already around in some form or other. Darwin's contribution is generally regarded as unifying these ideas into a theory of common descent based upon natural selection.trrll
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You said you’d never heard the term used by any biologists. You’ve been shown that whther or not you’ve heard it very many biologists use it.
Very many? I saw a few isolated quotes, nothing to indicate that "very many" use the term. I tell you as a biologist that I've never heard it used in 25 years. And the closest thing we have to statistics is my search results on PubMed, which indicate 207 citations mention it in title, abstract, or keywords, compared to over 180,000 that mention evolution, about 0.1%. Based on my personal experience, that's probably pretty representative of the percentage of biologists that use the term.
In the meantime, while you impugn every ID utterance with religious meaning, you insist on calling ID proponents ID Creationists. I’ve never heard ID proponents use that term.
I must have accidentally omitted the slash. I usually say "ID/Creation advocates". ID advocates often don't like to be called Creationists, but they seem to employ the exact same arguments that the Creationists used to use, and everything that I say about ID is equally true about Creationism, so I think that it is reasonable to talk about them collectively. And I think that Barbara Forrest's work has definitively established that at least as far as the Discovery Institute is concerned, ID is merely an alias for Creationism, instituted for political purposes. Most ID people seem to be Christians, and when they talk about intelligent design, it is clear that they have in mind a supernatural Designer, usually the Christian God. But I have occasionally spoken with nonreligious ID advocates who are interested in broader possibilities such as alien designers or the idea that the entire universe might be a computer simulation, so there are clearly some people who believe in ID as distinct from Creation.trrll
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Darwin was what I said earlier, a fantastic salesman who presented a very persuasive idea called natural selection. In advertising there is a name for the development of a very short and descriptive slogan and it is called a selling proposition. His was one of the best. As a result Darwinian evolution was the greatest con job of the 20th century and we owe him that accolade as recognition for his work. He exceeded the other con artist of second half of the 19th century, Marx and Freud. But like a lot of salesmen (based on what was presented here) Darwin just reorganized other's ideas, added some of his own and developed a very coherent sales pitch that sounded extremely plausible. However, like many salesmen he over sold a product that was flawed and with limited benefits by persuading you that it could cure everything. As some have mentioned above a lot of people were desperately waiting for something that would cure everything. His ideas along with genetics explain a lot of micro evolution (neo Darwinism). But, neither he nor his supporters today stopped there and that is where his ideas fall apart. So give him credit where it is due but also recognize that his ideas (whether others or his own) have limited value as an explanation for evolution.jerry
August 27, 2006
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Sorry we don't have a preview feature. I know that would really help. If any of the admins are reading this, this would be a good thing to add to Uncommon Descent. Salvadorscordova
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Sorry for that mess. I was editing out a lot of stuff I had written that is now redundant but did a terrible job.Charlie
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Whatever else Darwin may or may not have stolen the credit for surely no one can deny that he plagarised Blyth's beard. Look at the picture! [/joke] //for those with no sense of humorStephenA
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scordova: "Prior to high speed computer comparisons, it was quite easy to repackage other people’s work and leave the impression it was original. The argument was not that these earlier works were not already published, the argument is that Darwin practically slapped together other peoples work and left the strong impression he was the pioneer." Your assertion makes no sense in context. These other works were well-known in the circle of Darwin's peers, the greatest minds of the age. Darwin unifed the various threads of evidence and ideas, creating a new scientific understanding of life.Zachriel
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Zachariel wrote: Darwin stitched together evidence from many areas of research. It’s seems rather ludicrous to suggest that Darwin could have ’stolen’ material from Blyth and Chambers.
Zachariel, Prior to high speed computer comparisons, it was quite easy to repackage other people's work and leave the impression it was original. The argument was not that these earlier works were not already published, the argument is that Darwin practically slapped together other peoples work and left the strong impression he was the pioneer. All one needs then is a cultural environment which will be willing to sustain that impression despite obvious facts to the contrary. The more that I look into the preceeding writings, I wonder if his only major contribution is the idea that natural selection is a mechanism of large-scale design and the primary means of evolution. In fact Darwin doesn't prove it, no one has proven it. He merely offered some hand-waving arguments, not strong theoretical justifications. He failed to prove his most original claim. If it is the case he was wrong about natural selection being the primary engine of evolution, what do we have left in his book that wasn't written by others already? We have Blyth and several others giving the idea of Natural Selection and Sexual Selection. We have Chambers giving the idea of organic evolution. We have Lyell giving important ideas in geology. I already see hints of embryology and vestigial organs in Chambers writings, and it may only be a matter of finding who Chambers was appealing to. I see less and less of anything we could give Darwin much credit for except the very part of his theory that is being rejected today, namely, Natural Selection as the source of design..... Anyway. I appreciate your participation. I think you have argued your case very well and in a civil manner. I salute you, sir. Salvadorscordova
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For the reader's benefit, here is the 1845 sequel by Chambers, Explanations: A Sequel to "Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation" By the author of that work, It had a lot of passages that echoed origin of species. Some highlights:
The remains and traces of plants and animals found in the succession of strata, show that, while these operations were going on, the earth gradually became the theatre of organic being, simple forms appearing first, and more complicated afterwards. A time when there was no life is first seen. We then see life begin, and go on ; but whole ages elapsed before man came to crown the work of nature. This is a wonderful revelation to have come upon the men of our time, and one which the philosophers of the days of Newton could never have expected to be vouchsafed. The great fact established by it is, that the organic creation, as we now see it, was not placed upon the earth at once; it observed a PROGRESS. Now we can imagine the Deity calling a young plant or animal into existence instantaneously; but we see that he does not usually do so. The young plant and also the young animal go through a series of conditions, advancing them from a mere germ to the fully developed repetition of the respective parental forms. So, also, we can imagine Divine, power evoking a whole creation into being by one word; but we find that such had not been his mode of working in that instance, for geology fully proves that organic creation passed through a series of stages before the highest vegetable and animal forms appeared. Here we have the first hint of organic creation having arisen in the manner of natural order. The analogy does not prove identity of causes, but it surely points very broadly to natural order or law having been the mode of procedure in both instances. But the question is, Does geology really show such a progress of being? This has been denied in some quarters, and particularly in the elaborate criticism upon the Vestiges, which appeared in the Edinburgh Review.* In reality, the whole of the geologists admit that we have first the remains of invertebrated animals; then with these, fish, being the lowest of the vertebrated ; next, reptiles and birds, which occupy higher grades; and, finally, along with the rest, mammifers, the highest of all; and yet controversialists will be found gravely telling their readers, “It is not true that only the lowest forms of animal life are found in the lowest fossil bands, and that the more complicated structures are gradually developed among the higher bands, in what we might call a natural ascending scale ;" * the pretext for giving this unqualified contradiction to the above grand fact being, that when we take the special groups of animals, as the invertebrata, the fishes, the reptiles, &c., there are some real or apparent grounds for denying that the low forms of these groups came before the higher. .... We can there trace several of them with tolerable distinctness, as they singly pass through the four classes of Fishes, Reptiles, Birds, and Mammals; the Birds, however, being a branch in some part derived equally with the reptiles from fishes, and thus leaving some of the mammal order in immediate connexion with the reptiles. The lines or stirpes have all of them peculiar characters which persist throughout the various grades of being passed through, one presenting carnivorous, another gentle and innocent animals, and so on. We have, therefore, in the animal kingdom, not one long range of affinities, but a number of short series, in each of which a certain general character is observable, though not always to the exclusion of the organic peculiarities of families in neighbouring lines, especially in the class of reptiles.
He even alluded to problems in the fossil record, particularly the Silurian. Sound familiar? Similar ideas published 14 years later in Origin.scordova
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Darwin Day tribune7
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scordova (quoting): "Only in 1884 (long after Chambers’ death) with the publication of the 12th edition, was it revealed that Vestiges was written by Robert Chambers." Well, apparently it was "confidently" known by 1844, though it is amusing that Darwin's father had been attributed as the author of Vestiges, and he thought he "ought to be much flattered and unflattered". Darwin stitched together evidence from many areas of research. It's seems rather ludicrous to suggest that Darwin could have 'stolen' material from Blyth and Chambers. These works were quite well-known and talked about at the time. The relationship between Darwin's eventual opus and previous studies would have been clearly understood by his audience — the most sophisticated scientific community of its day.Zachriel
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Sal Good question. Why is there a Darwin Day (and not a Pasteur Day, Mendl Day, Newton Day, Einstein Day etc)?tribune7
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scordova: "The only innovation being he said such a mechanism as natural selection can be innovative." Where others had suggested on the fringes, Darwin provided a unified model (theory) that explained everything from the succession of fossils to the nested hierarchy of extant life, and marshaled evidence from fossils to hybridism to the geographical distribution of life. He made specific predictions, including the existence of yet to be discovered species and what their plausible characteristics would be. We know Darwin's theory was a substantial departure because every working scientist of the time acknowledged it to be so. scordova: "Origin is available for free on line at: The Origin of Species" I agree. Anyone interested in the history of science should read Origin of Species. It is still considered a classic work (albeit dated), and shows how Darwin combined elements of evidence and ideas from many different sources to arrive at a new and powerful scientific theory. It was controversial when first presented in 1858, and still apparently controversial today. However, the Theory of Evolution is, in the words of the National Academy of Sciences, "the central unifying concept of biology" While your source calls Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation "amateurish", Darwin points to bad geology and worse zoology. In any case, the phrase, "The idea of a fish passing into a reptile, monstrous!" was in a letter Darwin wrote to Hooker. The phrase was in quotes and Darwin attributed it to his father. CHARLES DARWIN TO J.D. HOOKER. Down [1844?]. ...I have also read the 'Vestiges,' ('The Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation' was published anonymously in 1844, and is confidently believed to have been written by the late Robert Chambers. My father's copy gives signs of having been carefully read, a long list of marked passages being pinned in at the end. One useful lesson he seems to have learned from it. He writes: "The idea of a fish passing into a reptile, monstrous. I will not specify any genealogies--much too little known at present." He refers again to the book in a letter to Fox, February, 1845: "Have you read that strange, unphilosophical but capitally-written book, the 'Vestiges': it has made more talk than any work of late, and has been by some attributed to me--at which I ought to be much flattered and unflattered."), but have been somewhat less amused at it than you appear to have been: the writing and arrangement are certainly admirable, but his geology strikes me as bad, and his zoology far worse." http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext00/1llcd10.txt I bolded the section attributed to Darwin's father. This is followed by Darwin questioning Hooker about his "doubtful belief in imagination of a mother affecting her offspring". This is a good indication of where the science of heredity was in those days. And these sorts of letters are a good bellwether of how science was done, and where Darwin's thoughts were leading him. Darwin read Blyth. He read Malthus. He read Chambers. He read Lyell. Everybody of note did. None of this is a secret.Zachriel
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For the benefit of the readers, here are the names of Darwin's chapter's:
Preface Introduction Chapter 1 - Variation Under Domestication Chapter 2 - Variation Under Nature Chapter 3 - Struggle for Existence Chapter 4 - Natural Selection Chapter 5 - Laws of Variation Chapter 6 - Difficulties on Theory Chapter 7 - Instinct Chapter 8 - Hybridism Chapter 9 - On the Imperfection of the Geological Record Chapter 10 - On The Geological Succession of Organic Beings Chapter 11 - Geographical Distribution Chapter 12 - Geographical Distribution continued Chapter 13 - Mutual Affinities of Organic Beings: Morphology: Embryology: Rudimentary Organs Chapter 14 - Recapitulation and Conclusion Glossary Home
Origin is available for free on line at: The Origin of Species Compare the table of contents of Darwin's 1859 book with Blyth 23 years earlier. Regarding the vestiges of rudimentary organs, something is interesting here. Bradbury found He who hesitates:
Darwin also spent some time reading the recently published Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation, a rather amateurish attempt to outline a process of divinely-guided evolution ('theistic evolution' as it would now be called). This book was originally published anonymously, the true identity of its author, Robert Chambers (the editor of Chambers' Journal), being revealed only several years later.
Commenting on Chambers, Darwin writes :
"I have also read the 'Vestiges' ... the writing and arrangement are certainly excellent, but his geology strikes me as bad, and his zoology far worse. ... The idea of a fish passing into a reptile, monstrous!" Charles Darwin The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin
Ok, so we have in Darwin's book, Blyth and Chambers. Why do I get the feeling if we snooped more, practically the whole book is little more than a hodge podge of other peoples ideas? For the reader's benefit. Vestiges of Natural History of Creation was written in 1844. The entire books is available for free online VESTIGES OF THE NATURAL HISTORY OF CREATION Here is a summary, and it's amusing that it is connected with Phrenology:
Chambers initially intended his book to be a "philosophy of phrenology". Vestiges draws heavily on the naturalistic rhetoric and especially the doctrine of the natural laws of Combe's Constitution. Vestiges took the phrenological doctrine of natural laws and brought it to cultural territory it might not otherwise have reached. Vestiges is now usually remembered for the controversy it initiated over transmutation (evolution). Charles Darwin later remarked that Vestiges was important in preparing many people to accept his own theory of evolution. Reading the book in a post-Darwinian world often leads to the skewed representation of Vestiges as a flawed precursor of Darwin's Origin of Species (1859). However, during the 1840s and 1850s Vestiges was the only 'evolution' book readers in the English speaking world were familiar with. Although much of the critical invective directed against the book focused on the issue of speciation- readers of Vestiges found a grand tale of the "development" or progress of nature from swirling clouds of interstellar gas, to the geological ages of the Earth, to the increasing complexity of organic forms and the improvement of man. The "development" narrative of Vestiges is one modern readers may find quite familiar- but it was just this that was so odious - so shocking- to many Victorian readers. Only in 1884 (long after Chambers' death) with the publication of the 12th edition, was it revealed that Vestiges was written by Robert Chambers.
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Bob OH quoted Bowler: The notebooks confirm the fact that there was no crucial input from these sources, and it is doubtful if any of these so-called precursors of selectionism anticipated the true spririt of Darwin’s theory.
Does any one know what notebooks these refer to? The reason I ask is raised by AC Bradbury Part 2 - The Mystery Begins
some fifty pages are missing from that particular notebook, their departure marked only by two cryptic notes on page 1: "All useful pages cut out. Dec. 7/1856/." and "(and looked through April 21, 1873)."18 What on earth are we to make of this? A man who treasured everything he wrote as though it were gold dust cuts "All useful pages" from a single twenty year old notebook, and then keeps them safe and sound for (at least) another twenty years. Is there not something very strange in such behaviour? Why did Darwin feel it necessary to remove those particular notes? Certainly there are pages missing from some of his other notebooks, but only the odd page or two, here and there. Nowhere, but nowhere, else did Darwin ever remove a block as substantial as the pages missing from the notebook for that crucial year. I have been informed that "many commentators think these pages were included verbatim in The Origin". Perhaps I'm being obtuse but I can see no element in this 'explanation' which would warrant or require the physical removal of the pages from the notebook. The questions raised by such odd behaviour are numerous, and very, very relevant to his subsequent reputation. That is to say, it is hard to think of a non-suspect reason for his action. After all, if the cut pages were preserved so long after their removal then clearly they had substantial significance, for Darwin at least. Why did he wait nearly two decades before removing them? Indeed, why remove them at all? What was so important about these jottings that led Darwin to refer to them as "useful pages"? And why was he moved to read them through again nearly 40 years later? And last, but definitely not 'least', what was the final destiny of those missing pages? Did Darwin himself finally destroy them at some time between 1873 and his death in 1882? Were they destroyed by some other hand after his demise? Or are they, just conceivably, still in existence somewhere, concealed for reasons known only to their owner? Were it not for the excellent research carried out by Professor Eiseley, the fact that these notes are (apparently) lost beyond recall - together with a number of equally important letters - would be little more than just another fathomless historical curiosity. In the light of Eiseley's findings it provides a whole new beginning to our assessment of Charles Darwin and his involvement with the evolutionary hypothesis. A story to which I have, with respect, added a conclusion which even Eiseley overlooked.
In other words, Bradbury suspects the notebooks were santized to cover up incriminating evidence of plagiarism. Thus the notebooks would not necessarily be good demonstrations of non plagiarism. Furthermore we have this troubling fact about Darwin's account of his voyage on the Beagle, the say voyage where he was less than truthful about his role:
Darwin Myth #3: It Happened At Sea In complete contradiction to popular myth, it wasn't until 1837, when Darwin began to work on what he called "the species question", that he began to record the ideas which would eventually form the basis for The Origin. In other words, if Darwin began to work on the evolutionary hypothesis whilst still at sea, it certainly wasn't conscious. As we shall see later, it was actually at some time during the nine months after the Beagle returned to England that Darwin rejected his earlier views, did a major about face, and began to work on the idea of gradual transitions between species involving step-by-step changes under the directing influence of natural selection. The confusion, as we've already seen, was in no small part due to Darwin himself. As John and Mary Gribben explain in their latest work on Darwin: "... he devised a plan so cunning that even Machiavelli would have been proud of it. During 1845, Darwin worked on a second edition of his successful journal of the Beagle voyage, and added new material to the descriptions of the living things he had seen in South America. These new passages look innocuous enough in themselves. But as Howard Gruber pointed out in his book Darwin on Man (Wildwood House, London, 1974), if you compare the first and second editions ... you can locate all the new material ... string it together to make a coherent 'ghost essay' which conveys almost all of Darwin's thinking about evolution [in 1845]. It is quite clear that this material must have been written as that coherent essay, then carefully chopped up and inserted into the journal."
Considering Darwin was less than truthful about his role on the Beagle, what would prevent him from stretching the truth on anything else about his voyage. The suggestion is that he was fabricating a story to go along with how he came to his astonishing conclusions, when in fact, all he did was repackage Blyth. The only innovation being he said such a mechanism as natural selection can be innovative. But well, it is hard to credit it him being a genius because to this day natural selection has not been demonstrated to be a sufficient mechanism for evolution.scordova
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"The difficulty is, NS has never been shown to be a “creative force”. Especially with regard to substantial biological innovation, ie. novel cell, tissue, body plans, etc…" This is also off point. The factual correctness of this phase of Darwin's thesis (natural selection as creative force) isn't relevant to Scordova's original essay, which concerns the originality and ultimately the honesty (not correctness) of Darwin's contribution. Nor does it speak to Gould's correction of Eisley's mistaken thesis. Scordova's original argument is that it follows from the "discovery" that the notion of natural selection predated Darwin that Darwin's contributions were not original, but rather dishonestly plagiarized. Gould showed that this does NOT follow - anyone familiar with the literature of the era knows that natural selection was a notion well known to biologists in the decades prior to Darwin, but construed as a conservative force. The rediscovery of instances of the idea deployed in this way (as in Blyth) in no way diminishes the originality of Darwin's contribution - which was to propose that selection is a creative rather than a strictly conservative phenomenon. This point stands without regard to whether Darwin was correct.Reciprocating Bill
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Mats: "Actually, in this forum Darwin’s theory has been under scrutiny more than his personality has." Perhaps, but that's not what you said. PaV: "In other words, Darwin’s 'theory' in nothing more than an 'inversion' of reality." Indicating, then, that Darwin's theory is novel. Of course, the vast majority of scientists disagree with your assessment as to its validity.Zachriel
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Trrll I did look back at what you had said, which is why I responded as I did. trrll:
I am amazed at the amount of energy ID Creationists invest into attacking Darwin. I suppose that Darwin is of interest to historians of science, but from from the point of view of a scientist, it seems distinctly odd. I guess this relates to the way that ID Creationists seem to look at everything from a religious point of view. I’ve noticed that they like to refer to evolution as “Darwinism” (a term that I’ve never heard used by any biologist), as if evolution were some sort of competing religion with Darwin as a god or prophet. Indeed, the post refers to Darwin’s “followers” and calls him a “deity.” So perhaps they imagine that they can somehow undermine evolution by attacking Darwin.
You said you'd never heard the term used by any biologists. You've been shown that whther or not you've heard it very many biologists use it. And they use it to describe their own personal points of view, not a historical concept. If you look at how IDers use the term, it has always been used, in my experience anyway, as a qualifier. We do not disagree with "evolution". If we say "evolution is unproven" then some quippy defender will say "you IDiot, you don't believe in change over time?". When an IDer refers to Darwinism, as has been pointed out repeatedly on this blog, he is talking about the specific claim that natural selection acting upon random genetic variation alone can account for all the diversity of life. This is how Dawkins uses the term. In the meantime, while you impugn every ID utterance with religious meaning, you insist on calling ID proponents ID Creationists. I've never heard ID proponents use that term.Charlie
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Reciprocating Bill: "This doesn’t speak to the substance of my post. Per Gould’s scholarship, the notion of natural selection was a commonplace among biologists prior to Darwin, typically invoked as a mechanism in opposition to change." Well, this is exactly the point of my last point: Darwin's 'innovation'--that is, seeing a different, creative purpose for NS--was completely 'inverted' and wrong! The ones who went before him, who believed that NS was a phenomena of 'stasis' rather than 'change', were correct in their belief. In other words, Darwin's "theory" in nothing more than an "inversion" of reality. How's that commendable in any way?PaV
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Charlie, Seems to me that PZ Meyers wants Darwinists to be called "The Scientists" while others are called IDists or Creationists. It's the typical Darwinian poisoning of the well. Nothing new under the sun.Mats
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Trrll
I stand by my statement that as a biologist with over 25 years of experience, I have never heard the word “Darwinism” used by a biologist, or indeed anybody other than a Creationism/ID advocate, nor have I ever heard a biologist describe himself or anybody else as a Darwinist.
Well, I can't control on what you have heard, but the fact is that the term is used by both Darwinists and Darwin-skeptics.Mats
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Zachriel
You stated that very well. Darwin proposed an alternative to Special Creation, and in return he is attacked personally.
Actually, in this forum Darwin's theory has been under scrutiny more than his personality has. However, what prevents us from checking if his ideas were original or if they were copied from someone else? Trrll
The point is that as far as modern biology is concerned, Darwin is of purely historical interest.
So? It doesn't necessarly follow that, just bkz Darwin is of "historical interest", we can't check the true founder of his words and concepts.Mats
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From The Survival of Charles Darwin (1984) by Ronald W. Clark:
...The situation is more complex with Edward Blyth, a "very clever, odd, wild fellow, who will never do what he could do, from not sticking to any one subject," as Darwin once wrote of him. Blyth was a contemporary naturalist who spent much of his working life in India and who regularly corresponded with Darwin. During the mid-1830s, he contributed three articles on species and varieties to the British Magazine of Natural History, in which he suggested that the work of domestic breeders might be paralleled in nature. "May not, then, a large proportion of what are considered species have descended from a common parentage?" ha added. Cyril Darlington, writing on Darwin's Place in History [(1959)], has noted: "In the course of his argument Blyth closely examines each of the problems which was to occupy Darwin's mind during the following forty years: blending inheritance as against mutation, the inheritance of acquired characters, geographical isolation, geological successions, island faunas, the origin of instinct and so on. In all these relations Blyth quotes a wealth of examples from his own observations of nature. These afterwards appear repeated, or indeed copied, by Darwin in his preliminary essays of 1842 and 1844." However, Blyth contended that natural selection would tend to conserve species, and this can be taken as a reason for Darwin's omitting any reference to him in the historical introduction he added to the third edition of The Origin. Loren C. Eisley has given Blyth greater credit for contributing to Darwin's views than do most naturalists, commenting "It was Darwin's contribution, of course, that he altered the struggle for existence and made of it a creative mechanism," but adding "In doing so, however, he passed by way of the stepping stone of Edward Blyth."
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In the humanities, personal names are often "adjectivized" (e.g. Platonic, Cartesian, Kantian, etc.). One almost never sees this in the sciences. (One exception that comes to mind is Bohmian, but this is because Bohm's quantum theory is so different from other versions.) This is in part because science contains a depersonalizing element -- who made the discovery or innovation is not important, because it now belongs to everyone who exerts him or herself in understanding it. And this depersonalization is one of the most spiritually uplifting things about science -- as well as the source of its capacity to fuel technological transformation. I tend to think that the widespread usage of "Darwinism" is supposed to conjure up an image of an inflexible dogma whose adherents are all "true believers" -- much like other twentieth-century isms (Marxism, Stalinism, Communism, Maoism, Fascism, etc.).Carlos
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The difficulty is, NS has never been shown to be a "creative force". Especially with regard to substantial biological innovation, ie. novel cell, tissue, body plans, etc... In light of the data we have now with regard to the molecular realm, I'm more inclined to believe that the information was all pre-coded and ready to unfold at certain intervals (possibly taking cues from the environment).Scott
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We are not on Pubmed. We are writing on a popular meadia blog.
However, if you'll look back, you'll see that I was speaking specifically about the terminology as used by biologists. I do think that the misconception of Creationists that the virtually universal acceptance of evolution among biologists reflects the influence of a religion of "Darwinism" has a lot to do with why ID is not taken seriously by scientists. It leads to misguided strategies like attacking Darwin (as if the stature of Darwin had anything to do with the acceptance of evolution by scientists) or the much-ridiculed practice of "quote mining," in which creationism/ID advocates try to dig up quotes by prominent scientists that sound supportive of ID, failing to realize that the acceptance of evolutionary theory rests not on the words of the "prophets," but upon the scientific evidence and the success of evolutionary theory as a foundation for biological discovery.trrll
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PaV said, "Indeed, Darwin did “invert” the meaning of natural selection. In all things to be found in The Origins, Darwin consistently stands logic on its head. It remains a mystery that the obvious errors remain so obscure to so many...why not allow science to move forward?" This doesn't speak to the substance of my post. Per Gould's scholarship, the notion of natural selection was a commonplace among biologists prior to Darwin, typically invoked as a mechanism in opposition to change. Eisley's "discovery" of Blyth's invocation of natural selection was yet another instance of oft repeated misunderstanding of both pre-Darwinian thought (specifically, the pre-Darwinian apprehension of the role of natural selection) and of Darwin's novel contribution (natural selection as a "creative force" - Gould, p. 137 of TSET). Scordova's report of Eisley's thesis repeats these 40+ year old errors yet again. I don't see how that moves science (or scholarship) forward.Reciprocating Bill
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