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Casey Luskin reflects on the “official” demise of the term “junk DNA”

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Well, maybe not “demise.” But, as we’ve noted here and Luskin notes below, it is being hooted out of a mainstream journal and others may follow. If only to avoid looking obstinately silly:

When I first got involved with the intelligent design debate in the late 1990s and early 2000s, one of the most common rebuttals we’d hear was, “If life was designed, then why is over 90 percent of the genome composed of junk DNA?” Critics thought this was a knock-down refutation of ID, and they used the argument frequently. But that was in the early days of genome sequencing, and very little was known at the time about non-coding DNA and whether it was truly junk or had useful and important functions.

Many thinkers in the ID movement felt it would be imprudent to concede that most of the genome was junk when science had not yet established that this was in fact the case. Our response was therefore, “We don’t really know what most of the genome is doing. It’s better to adopt a wait-and-see approach. Let’s find out where research goes in the future before we conclude that the genome is mostly junk.” It’s incredible to see how things have changed since that time…

What’s striking about this passage [dismissing the idea of a genome full of junk] is not only that the evidence for function in junk DNA is so overwhelming that they declare “The days of ‘junk DNA’ are over,” but also that these authors remember a day when “the common doctrine was that the nonprotein coding part of eukaryotic genome” consisted of “’useless’ sequences, often organized in repetitive elements.”

Casey Luskin, “Scientific Paper on Repetitive Elements Slams “Junk DNA”” at Evolution News and Science Today October 7, 2021

Indeed. It won’t be very long before Darwinians start claiming that they never thought it was junk. Keep the history alive.

I remember those days as well. When I started the first IDEA Club at UC San Diego, we were hit over the head constantly with that “common doctrine” that non-coding DNA was junk, and we were told that it refuted intelligent design. But the authors go on to say that “This view has fundamentally changed.” I see no evidence that these authors are supportive of intelligent design. But it turns out we ID proponents were right all along to encourage critics to take a cautious “wait and see” approach, and let the evidence, rather than evolutionary “doctrine,” determine which paradigm was correct.

Casey Luskin, “Scientific Paper on Repetitive Elements Slams “Junk DNA”” at Evolution News and Science Today October 7, 2021

If we don’t keep the history alive, the Darwinians will start insinuating that WE said it was junk. No, that doesn’t make any sense but if the history is forgotten, it doesn’t need to either.

You may also wish to read: Term “junk DNA” critiqued at journal. But now remember the history! “The days of ‘junk DNA’ are over…”? So the house is clearly supporting this move away from the Darwinian position. Oh yes, let’s not forget that “junk DNA” was very much a Darwinian position. Most or all of the Darwinian Bigs signed onto junk DNA as part of their thesis about the unguided nature of life. The big question will doubtless be put off for now: Why does it only count if Darwinian predictions are right but never if they are wrong?

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like when “Creation Science” rebranded as “Intelligent Design.”
Missed that. I’m definitely against creation science but very pro ID. ID accepts better science than that taught at any university on the planet.jerry
October 10, 2021
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Only the willfully ignorant and extremely stupid say that Creation Science was rebranded as Intelligent Design.ET
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Kind of like when "Creation Science" rebranded as "Intelligent Design." Apparently in so much haste that they missed a few substitutions in Of Pandas and People which the court caught in Kitzmiller v Dover. Now that was truly embarrassing...chuckdarwin
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See this is what eventually happens when Darwinist terms like "junk DNA," "vestigial organ," "living fossil," or "missing link" become too much of an embarrassment to science. There's a wonderful and useful role in science for outright mockery. LOL -QQuerius
October 9, 2021
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As for Larry Moran, he doesn't have a clue with respect to junk DNA. He will say anything about it but he also knows that he can't support what he saysET
October 9, 2021
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Earth to chucky- The CSC is NOT ID. Your ignorance is not an argument.ET
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The takeaway is that biologists have been studying "junk DNA" for over 30 years:
[I]n the early 1990s, the view of junk DNA, especially repetitive elements, began to change.
Sounds like normal, self-correcting science to me. Given that The Center for Science and Culture (CSC), fka the Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture (CRSC) wasn't even started until 1996 doesn't square with the notion that ID "predicted" that junk DNA was functional. Sounds like "normal" scientists were already well on their way to that hypothesis. Just one more example of DI creating a big hullabaloo over nothing.....chuckdarwin
October 9, 2021
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Here's what I found at https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-junk-dna-and-what/ Is this excerpt really from 2007? It seems to me an update insertion: "Although very catchy, the term 'junk DNA' repelled mainstream researchers from studying noncoding genetic material for many years. After all, who would like to dig through genomic garbage? Thankfully, though, there are some clochards who, at the risk of being ridiculed, explore unpopular territories. And it is because of them that in the early 1990s, the view of junk DNA, especially repetitive elements, began to change."ycrad
October 8, 2021
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Seversky claims that "the reports of the demise of junk DNA have been greatly exaggerated." You tell em Seversky, Darwinists insist that the vast majority of DNA must be junk because otherwise Darwinism would be false.
“Dan Graur said ENCODE is “bonkers”[v] because “If ENCODE is right, evolution is wrong.”[vi]” https://crev.info/2018/07/keynote-speech-falsifies-darwinism/
Ergo, since Darwinism can never be allowed to be shown to be false, all empirical evidence and common sense to the contrary be damned, the vast majority of DNA must be junk. The only problem for Darwinists in the alternate reality that they have constructed for themselves is that the real world of empirical evidence keeps intruding on them and contradicting their claim that the vast majority of DNA must be junk.
Why Are Biologists Lashing Out Against Empirically Verified Research Results? - Casey Luskin July 13, 2015 Excerpt: no publication shook this (ID vs Darwin) debate so much as a 2012 Nature paper that finally put junk DNA to rest--or so it seemed. This bombshell paper presented the results of the ENCODE (Encyclopedia of DNA Elements) Project, a years-long research consortium involving over 400 international scientists studying noncoding DNA in the human genome. Along with 30 other groundbreaking papers, the lead ENCODE article found that the "vast majority" of the human genome shows biochemical function: "These data enabled us to assign biochemical functions for 80 percent of the genome, in particular outside of the well-studied protein-coding regions."3 Ewan Birney, ENCODE's lead analyst, explained in Discover Magazine that since ENCODE studied 147 types of cells, and the human body has a few thousand cell types, "it's likely that 80 percent will go to 100 percent."4 Another senior ENCODE researcher noted that "almost every nucleotide is associated with a function."5 A headline in Science declared, "ENCODE project writes eulogy for junk DNA."6,,, Evolutionists Strike Back Darwin defenders weren't going to take ENCODE's data sitting down.,,, How could they possibly oppose such empirically based conclusions? The same way they always defend their theory: by assuming an evolutionary viewpoint is correct and reinterpreting the data in light of their paradigm--and by personally attacking, (i.e. ad hominem), those who challenge their position.,,, http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/07/the_encode_embr097561.html Toppling Another Evolutionary Icon, ENCODE Suggests Endogenous Retroviruses Are Functional - Casey Luskin - September 7, 2015 Excerpt: ENCODE didn't merely study the genome to determine which DNA elements are biochemically active and making RNA. It also studied patterns of biochemical activity, uncovering highly non-random patterns of RNA production--patterns which indicate that these vast quantities of RNA transcripts aren't junk.... ENCODE's results suggest that a cell's type and functional role in an organism are critically influenced by complex and carefully orchestrated patterns of expression of RNAs inside that cell. As Stamatoyannopoulos observes, ENCODE found that "the majority of regulatory DNA regions are highly cell type-selective," and "the genomic landscape rapidly becomes crowded with regulatory DNA as the number of cell types" studied increases. Thus, as two pro-ENCODE biochemists explain, "Assertions that the observed transcription represents random noise . . . is more opinion than fact and difficult to reconcile with the exquisite precision of differential cell- and tissue-specific transcription in human cells." http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/09/toppling_anothe099111.html Discovery Of Useful “Junk DNA” “Has Outstripped The Discovery Of Protein-Coding Genes By A Factor Of Five… – March 30, 2021 Excerpt: With the HGP draft in hand, the discovery of non-protein-coding elements exploded. So far, that growth has outstripped the discovery of protein-coding genes by a factor of five, and shows no signs of slowing. Likewise, the number of publications about such elements also grew in the period covered by our data set. For example, there are thousands of papers on non-coding RNAs, which regulate gene expression. https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/discovery-of-useful-junk-dna-has-outstripped-the-discovery-of-protein-coding-genes-by-a-factor-of-five/ February 2020 - A few different methods to infer virtually 100% functionality for the genome: https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/phantom-genes-turn-out-to-be-useful/#com etc.. etc.. etc..
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They're doing well as far as one can tell from their websites. And I suspect they would agree that the reports of the demise of junk DNA have been greatly exaggerated.Seversky
October 8, 2021
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How is Larry Moran & his pall PZ Meyers doing these days?Origenes on vacation
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