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IHU- Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, is a significant French research institute that has continued its work on CV 19. For the record, here are excerpts from some recent work, headlined from threads where such would be buried:

EXH 1: >>COVID-IHU #15

Version 1 du 27 Mai 2020
Early diagnosis and management of COVID-19 patients: a real-life cohort study of 3,737 patients, Marseille, France

Abstract

Background:
In our institute in Marseille, France, we proposed early and massive screening for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Hospitalization and early treatment with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) was proposed for the positive cases.

Methods:
We retrospectively report the clinical management of 3,737 patients, including 3,054 (81.7%) treated with HCQ-AZ for at least three days and 683 (18.3%) patients treated with other methods (“others”). Outcomes were death, transfer to the intensive care unit (ICU), ? 10 days of hospitalization and viral shedding.

Results:
By testing 101,522 samples by polymerase chain reaction (PCR) from 65,993 individuals, we diagnosed 6,836 patients (10.4%), including 3,737 included in our cohort. The mean age was 45 (sd 17) years, 45% were male, and the fatality rate was 0.9%. We performed 2,065 low-dose computed tomography (CT) scans highlighting lung lesions in 581 of the 933 (62%) patients with minimal clinical symptoms (NEWS score = 0). A discrepancy between spontaneous dyspnoea, hypoxemia and lung lesions was observed. Clinical factors (age, comorbidities, NEWS-2 score), biological factors (lymphopenia; eosinopenia; decrease in blood zinc; and increase in D-dimers, lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), creatinine phosphokinase (CPK), and c-reactive protein (CRP)) and moderate and severe lesions detected in low-dose CT scans were associated with poor clinical outcome. Treatment with HCQ-AZ was associated with a decreased risk of transfer to the ICU or death (HR 0.19 0.12-0.29), decreased risk of hospitalization ?10 days (odds ratios 95% CI 0.37 0.26-0.51) and shorter duration of viral shedding (time to negative PCR: HR 1.27 1.16-1.39). QTc prolongation (>60 ms) was observed in 25 patients (0.67%) leading to the cessation of treatment in 3 cases. No cases of torsade de pointe or sudden death were observed.

Conclusion
Early diagnosis, early isolation and early treatment with at least 3 days of HCQ-AZ result in a significantly better clinical outcome and contagiosity in patients with COVID-19 than other treatments. Long-term follow-up to screen for fibrosis will be the next challenge in the management of COVID-19.>>

EXH 2: >>Adjusting series of patients for trial comparisons for COVID –
19 treatments

Author list :
3Audrey GIRAUD -GATINEAU1,2,3,4 (PhD student); Jean Christophe LAGIER 1,4,5 (MD); 4 Yolande OBADIA 1
(MD); Hervé CHAUDET 1,2,3 (MD); Didier RAOULT 1,5* (MD)

Abstract:

Background
: SARS – COV-2 has emerged and spread around the world since December 2019. Studies initiated in Marseille by our hospital centre have suggested significant clinical effectiveness of treatment by combining hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (HCQ+AZ). However, due to the
urgency of responding to the pandemic, they were not obtained through randomized controlled trials. Alternative assessment methods are therefore needed.

Methods:
We compared our data in silico with those published by two studies comparing 32 other antiviral drugs. For this purpose, random sampling was performed in our cohort to 33 obtain similar groups for disease severity, gender, age and comorbidities associated with 34 chronic diseases with patients included in the remdesivir and lopinavir-ritonavir trials.

Findings:
Dual HCQ+AZ therapy was associated with 3 times fewer deaths than
similar 37groups treated either with lopinavir-ritonavir(9% vs 20%, p-value = 0·03) or standard care 38 (8% vs 25·2%, p-value = 0·001). Compared with patients included in the remdesivir
study by 39 Wang et al., we also showed a significant difference in the clinical outcome (proportion of 40cured patients with negative viral load) in favour of HCQ+AZ (77.8% versus 58·2% p = 0·0001). 42 43

Interpretation:
Although comparison of HCQ+AZ with other antiviral drugs has limitations 44due to aggregated data, this study provides additional evidence showing that HCQ+AZ should 45 be the systematic treatment of choice after diagnosis of COVID -19 -positive cases. 46 47

Funding:
This work was supported by the French Government under the “Investments for theFuture” programme managed by the National Agency for Research (ANR), Méditerranée- Infection 10-
IAHU – 03 , and was also supported by Région Provence Alpes Côte d’Azur and European funding FEDER PRIMMI (Fonds Européen de Développement Régional -51 Plateformes de Recherche et d’Innovation Mutualisées Méditerranée Infection)>>

EXH 3: >>Assay
Randomised Controlled Trials during epidemic

Philippe Brouqui, Pierre Verger, Didier Raoult
Aix Marseille Université, IRD, MEPHI, VITROME,
ORS Paca, IHU-Méditerranée Infection, Marseille,
France

In epidemics there is an urgent need for new knowledge on drug efficacy to help policymakers fight the crisis. Yet the best research methodology to do this is a matter of de bate, write Philippe Brouqui, Pierre Verger and Didier Raoult .

The outbreak of an emerging infectious agent needs the rapid involvement of research to bring new knowledge. Past experience with Ebola virus outbreaks and, more recently SARS-CoV 2, have raised a question over the place of randomised controlled trials (RCTs) as the methodology of choice to
answer clinical questions in an novel epidemic situation. Drug safety and effectiveness is a long process which can take years. For antimicrobials, just 25% of drugs submitted to phase 1 succeed to Phase 3 and further licensing (1). This is why, in an epidemic, drug repurposing is often looked at, because drug toxicity has already been evaluated (2).

An RCT isdesigned to attempt to reduce bias, particularly in trials evaluating new drugs. The principle is to random assign volunteers into two or more treatment options and then compare them against a measured outcome. As RCTs reduce causality and spurious bias, they are considered to be the most reliable form of scientific evidence. For these reasons, they are required for market authorisation of a new pharmaceutical drug and cited by healthcare policies as a mandatory means for decision -making about treatments.

When gold standard becomes unethical

In emerging disease outbreaks, there is an urgent lack of treatments for the new pathogen. When a particular therapeutic option is supported by scientifically demonstrated efficacy in vitro and or in animal model, and supported further by clinical case reports and/or pilot series in humans, it is ethically difficult to argue that the data still needs to be confirmed in an RCT before it can be made available to patients. Especially if it seems “obvious” that control (untreated) subjects will have poorer outcomes than those receiving treatment. As one study mocked, there would be few volunteers for the placebo group in an RCT on the parachute’s effectiveness in avoiding death by jumping out of an airplane, unless the jump had an average height of 0.6 m (3).

When even imperfect scientific data show a particularly obvious effect, it is no longer ethical to perform an RCT since it forces patients to accept either not to be treated (in the control arm), or to be treated with a molecule known to be effective. Consider the advent of penicillin. It took five
patients before Sir Edward Abraham could definitively demonstrate that penicillin saved 100% of patients with staphylococcus or streptococcus infections. Nobody today would dare to test the efficacy of penicillin on pneumococcal pneumonia compared to placebo . . . >>

Food for thought, especially given the fiasco of the seemingly decisive Lancet paper which then had to be withdrawn. The remarks on the gold standard fallacies are particularly significant.

The underlying issue is that selective hyperskepticism is leading to ignoring of cumulatively adequate but somehow unwelcome findings, tracing to ethical weaknesses including the error of imagining skepticism an intellectual virtue and using it to substitute for prudence. We need to restore that due balance to our reasoning and decision-making.

A useful brief summary on prudence is:

Prudence is the virtue that disposes practical reason to discern our true good in every circumstance and to choose the right means of achieving it; “the prudent man looks where he is going.”65 “Keep sane and sober for your prayers.”66 Prudence is “right reason in action,” writes St. Thomas Aquinas, following Aristotle.67 It is not to be confused with timidity or fear, nor with duplicity or dissimulation. It is called auriga virtutum (the charioteer of the virtues); it guides the other virtues by setting rule and measure. It is prudence that immediately guides the judgment of conscience. The prudent man determines and directs his conduct in accordance with this judgment. With the help of this virtue we apply moral principles to particular cases without error and overcome doubts about the good to achieve and the evil to avoid.

Further food for thought, on seven indicative, inescapable first duties of responsible reason: to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so to fairness and justice, etc. . END

Comments
Acartia Eddie:
Who says we all have to get it.
What do you think the vaccine will contain?ET
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Jerry @ 410
I will ask again and see if I get a coherent reply. Why is the spread of the virus a negative thing if we all have to get it eventually? It is not going away into oblivion so will always be there in someone, someplace. It is unlikely an effective vaccine will be available anytime soon. I hope I am wrong.
I suspect anyone who dies from this disease would think it was a negative outcome - assuming there is anything left of that person that is capable of thinking. The relatives and friends who survive them are almost certain to regard it as a negative outcome. It's a more invidious outcome of the disease than having to practice preventive measures like the wearing of masks and social distancing and isolation. While such measures are unquestionably inconvenient they are a lot less inconvenient than death. And, hopefully, we will soon have proven drug therapies and vaccines ready to deploy by next year. Surely, we can hang on 'til then. I agree that the economic, financial and personal consequences of widespread lockdown should not be underestimated and I'm sure businesses are looking for ways of re-opening safely but what's concerning are the continued outbreaks at meat-packing plants in spite of the widespread implementation of protective measures. That's no reason to give the fight, however.Seversky
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Ed George: Maybe Jerry just wants to get the dying part over quickly. I'm sure we can create mass graves just like the one Mozart was initially buried in. Almost 130,000 dead from COVID-19 in the US and the daily new cases stat is rising quickly.JVL
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Jerry
Why is the spread of the virus a negative thing if we all have to get it eventually?
Who says we all have to get it. We don’t all get the flu every year. We don’t all get rabies. We don’t all get meningitis. We don’t all get Ebola.Ed George
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I will ask again and see if I get a coherent reply. Why is the spread of the virus a negative thing if we all have to get it eventually? It is not going away into oblivion so will always be there in someone, someplace. It is unlikely an effective vaccine will be available anytime soon. I hope I am wrong. So are we to lead semi-hermit lives forever? I know people are scared that they or a loved one might get it and die or they will give it to someone who might die. But is prevention worse than the non-prevention? RHampton provides a daily litany of the increase in cases as if that is a terrible thing. Is it?jerry
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"We've doubled the amount of our testing nationally. We've got to double it again. That is probably the most important thing that we can do," Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday. "I really think we need to look at a greater use of the Defense Production Act so that we can make sure that supply keeps up with the demand that we know is going to continue growing." In Arkansas, the number of coronavirus cases rose steadily throughout the month of June, leading Hutchinson to halt the state's reopening plans this week -- becoming one of at least 10 states that have stopped or reversed their plans amid increasing numbers. "We're clearly on pause here in the state in terms of moving to lift further restrictions until we're comfortable with where we are in controlling the spread," Hutchinson said Thursday, as the state topped 10,000 coronavirus cases for the month of June. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/arkansas-governor-calls-trump-invoke-defense-production-act-160029201--abc-news-topstories.htmlrhampton7
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On June 24, facing the commission of inquiry of the National Assembly charged with examining the management of the Covid-19 pandemic in France, the infectiologist Didier Raoult let go of his equanimity in the face of the final question asked by the deputy MoDem du Gard Philippe Berta: "why did you not conduct a clinical study worthy of the name, from the start, which could definitively answer, yes or no, hydroxychloroquine has an effect? You knew very well that these pseudo-clinical trials were absolutely not admissible by anyone , ” asked the parliamentarian, who is also a geneticist. Stung on the spot, the Marseille infectious disease specialist countered that “the fewer people there are in a trial, the more significant it is. (…)Any essay that involves more than 1,000 people tries to demonstrate something that does not exist. " Before you exclaim: " I am a great scientist! " https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2020/06/28/hydroxychloroquine-la-derniere-etude-de-didier-raoult-ne-convainc-pas-nombre-d-epidemiologistes_6044435_3244.htmlrhampton7
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This just proves that if people aren't going to do anything beyond washing hands and wearing masks, there are going to be virus and bacteria issues. At a MINIMUM the people, all people, should be following the prophylaxis outlined in EVMS CRITICAL CARE COVID-19 MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL. It boggles the mind that this sort of thing isn't front and center. We don't have anything to lose by at least trying it population wide.ET
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“Dr. (Don) Williamson, Alabama Hospital Association president and CEO, said that Tuesday saw the most COVID-19 hospitalizations yet in Alabama, and that it also marked the most new hospitalizations in one day yet in Alabama. Furthermore, he noted there were 888 ventilators in use. For a frame of reference, the most we had in use at EAMC at one time was 29.” Laura Grill, EAMC president, and CEO says those numbers are especially troublesome given that the start of a new school year is only six weeks away, and flu season follows shortly thereafter. “As a nation, as a state, and as a community, we must find a way to both contain COVID-19 and go about our daily lives as best as possible,” Grill says. “We were doing okay for a while after the Safe-at-Home restrictions were lifted, but we’re returning to high levels of transmission in the community again. Many of our hospitals in Alabama are overwhelmed right now, and I’m concerned we could soon be right back there with them.” https://www.wrbl.com/alabama-news-2/opelika-police-chief-sick-with-covid-19-says-virus-is-no-joke/rhampton7
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I get it, but the data from these present studies should reflect 1- what the drug was supposed to do and 2- what it did. A blanket "it didn't work" or "was ineffective", is useless. Again I refer to the patients pH levels and, as Jerry keeps pointing out, how far along the infection is. Then when zinc is involved, that data- with respect to what the zinc is supposed to be doing- is essential. It's like setting up a Rube Goldberg machine, have it fail and just report that it failed. You know what was supposed to happen. Figure out why it didn't.ET
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ET, there has been of course, some research. That's why we know enough to raise those issues. Our problem as a civilisation, at core, is that we have lost sight of the first duties of reason and have instead become caught up in nihilistic positivism, evolutionary materialistic scientism, ideologies, dubious agendas and frankly the corrupting power of money. In this regard, the academy has betrayed its solemn duty. When this awful Spring is over, we have some serious reckoning to do with duties to truth, to right reason [so, to logic including inductive logic], to prudence [so, to warrant], to sound conscience [so, to ethics], to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice etc. Such duties are inescapable, even the objector is forced to appeal to them; they are self-evident and loaded with worldviews import. The restoration of such to their rightful place is the way to reformation of the intellectual life of our civilisation, as well as law, justice and government. KFkairosfocus
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Seversky & EG, you carry not one iota of the earned renown of the man whose reputation you would trash. Trash, for the crime of producing, supervising, writing and publishing inconvenient evidence regarding treatments you have followed the partyline in trashing. Well, we have taken your measure and understand not only how it applies to this case but to many others. Including of course, the design inference. When the toxic dust and smoke settles after this awful Spring, not only medicine but science and our intellectual culture will have to reckon with an ethical-epistemological crisis. And not all the Red Guards, now utterly discredited media agit prop operatives, shadowy backers, mere Internet trolls and such like in the world will be able to stop that reckoning as the first steps to patently needed reformation. KFkairosfocus
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The 35-year-old associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine leads the school's Center for Cytokine Storm Treatment & Laboratory. The 13 members of Fajgenbaum's lab recruited dozens of other scientific colleagues to join their coronavirus effort. And what this group is finding has ramifications for scientists globally. Researchers working with his lab have reviewed published data on more than 150 drugs doctors around the world have to treat nearly 50,000 patients diagnosed with Covid-19. They've made their analysis public in a database called the Covid-19 Registry of Off-label & New Agents (or CORONA for short). It's a central repository of all available data in scientific journals on all the therapies used so far to curb the pandemic. This information can help doctors treat patients and tell researchers how to build clinical trials. the best insights come from running double-blind placebo-controlled studies. One shortfall is that many of the published studies just don't have the level of rigor to inform larger-scale scientific decision-making. "There are a lot of biases in these observational studies," Fajgenbaum said. One drug, the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, has famously received a lot of boosterism from US President Donald Trump. But in the published studies available for Fajgenbaum's team to review, the drug hasn't outperformed others. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/health/coronavirus-treatment-fajgenbaum-drug-review-scn-wellness/index.htmlrhampton7
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Patients who were in the intensive care unit or on a ventilator for weeks will need to spend extensive time in rehab to regain mobility and strength. “It can take up to seven days for every one day that you’re hospitalized to recover that type of strength,” Khan said. “It’s harder the older you are, and you may never get back to the same level of function.” While much of the focus has been on the minority of patients who experience severe disease, doctors increasingly are looking to the needs of patients who were not sick enough to require hospitalization, but are still suffering months after first becoming infected. Studies are just getting underway to understand the long-term effects of infection, Jay Butler, deputy director of infectious diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters in a telephone briefing on Thursday. While coronavirus symptoms typically resolve in two or three weeks, an estimated 1 in 10 experience prolonged symptoms, Dr. Helen Salisbury of the University of Oxford wrote in the British Medical Journal on Tuesday. Dr. Igor Koralnik, chief of neuro-infectious diseases at Northwestern Medicine, reviewed current scientific literature and found about half of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 had neurological complications, such as dizziness, decreased alertness, difficulty concentrating, disorders of smell and taste, seizures, strokes, weakness and muscle pain. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/scientists-just-beginning-to-understand-the-many-health-problems-caused-by-covid-19rhampton7
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As coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in Mississippi, health care professionals worry what that will mean for hospitals — some of which have intensive care units that are filling up or already full. While the number of hospitalizations are also at an all time high, the number of COVID-19 patients in ICUs have not spiked. State health officials said an increase might come soon. "There's a sequence from hospitalization and then ICU," State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs said at a news conference Thursday about the rise in infections. "I'm absolutely terrified we're going to overwhelm the health care system and the hospitals and ICU, not in the fall, which is something I was worried about previously, but now I'm worried about next week or two weeks from now." The surge of cases appears to come from large-scale community transmission, he said, citing "parties, barbecues, social events" as activities contributing to the spread. “It is so selfish for people to be out doing stuff, perpetuating this pandemic for nothing more than a crawfish boil,” Dobbs said. https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2020/06/27/some-mississippi-icus-full-what-does-mean-surging-covid-cases/3258107001/rhampton7
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These are the recommendations of the International Commmittee of Medical Journal Editors (ICMJE)
Defining the Role of Authors and Contributors
Who Is an Author?
The ICMJE recommends that authorship be based on the following 4 criteria: Substantial contributions to the conception or design of the work; or the acquisition, analysis, or interpretation of data for the work; AND Drafting the work or revising it critically for important intellectual content; AND Final approval of the version to be published; AND Agreement to be accountable for all aspects of the work in ensuring that questions related to the accuracy or integrity of any part of the work are appropriately investigated and resolved. In addition to being accountable for the parts of the work he or she has done, an author should be able to identify which co-authors are responsible for specific other parts of the work. In addition, authors should have confidence in the integrity of the contributions of their co-authors. All those designated as authors should meet all four criteria for authorship, and all who meet the four criteria should be identified as authors. Those who do not meet all four criteria should be acknowledged—see Section II.A.3 below. These authorship criteria are intended to reserve the status of authorship for those who deserve credit and can take responsibility for the work. The criteria are not intended for use as a means to disqualify colleagues from authorship who otherwise meet authorship criteria by denying them the opportunity to meet criterion #s 2 or 3. Therefore, all individuals who meet the first criterion should have the opportunity to participate in the review, drafting, and final approval of the manuscript.
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Non-Author Contributors Contributors who meet fewer than all 4 of the above criteria for authorship should not be listed as authors, but they should be acknowledged. Examples of activities that alone (without other contributions) do not qualify a contributor for authorship are acquisition of funding; general supervision of a research group or general administrative support; and writing assistance, technical editing, language editing, and proofreading. Those whose contributions do not justify authorship may be acknowledged individually or together as a group under a single heading (e.g. "Clinical Investigators" or "Participating Investigators"), and their contributions should be specified (e.g., "served as scientific advisors," "critically reviewed the study proposal," "collected data," "provided and cared for study patients", "participated in writing or technical editing of the manuscript")
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LoL! @ Acartia Eddie- You should NOT be talking about ethics as you don't understand the word.ET
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Severrsky, it is clear that you refuse to recognise realities of multiple authorship in what is in effect a research factory. KF
The standard practice, and ethical practice, is to only include your name on a paper if you had a significant input into its production.Ed George
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If there was actual research into the efficacy of HCQ against covid-19 then we would be reading about the patients' pH levels. That no one is talking about pH tells me the researchers don't understand how HCQ is supposed to work. And if there was actual research into the efficacy of HCQ and zinc, then we should be reading about the patients' cellular zinc level. And yet we do not.ET
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This sounds like it will be a valuable addition to the resources we need to get COVID-19 under control
After saving his own life with a repurposed drug, a professor reviews every drug being tried against Covid-19. Here's what he's found
Every morning, Dr. David Fajgenbaum takes three life-saving pills. He wakes up his 21-month-old daughter Amelia to help feed her. He usually grabs some Greek yogurt to eat quickly before sitting down in his home office. Then he spends most of the next 14 hours leading dozens of fellow researchers and volunteers in a systematic review of all the drugs that physicians and researchers have used so far to treat Covid-19. His team has already pored over more than 8,000 papers on how to treat coronavirus patients. The 35-year-old associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine leads the school's Center for Cytokine Storm Treatment & Laboratory. For the last few years, he has dedicated his life to studying Castleman disease, a rare condition that nearly claimed his life. Against epic odds, he found a drug that saved his own life six years ago, by creating a collaborative method for organizing medical research that could be applicable to thousands of human diseases.
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Researchers working with his lab have reviewed published data on more than 150 drugs doctors around the world have to treat nearly 50,000 patients diagnosed with Covid-19. They've made their analysis public in a database called the Covid-19 Registry of Off-label & New Agents (or CORONA for short). It's a central repository of all available data in scientific journals on all the therapies used so far to curb the pandemic. This information can help doctors treat patients and tell researchers how to build clinical trials.
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The combination of antivirals lopinavir and ritonavir is the Covid-19 treatment protocol with the most number of studies published so far. As of mid-June, the team had looked at papers on that drug pairing involving more than 4,500 patients.
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He feels particularly elated about a recent United Kingdom-based study on the steroid dexamethasone. The study garnered headlines for its result showing that a low-dose 10-day regimen of the drug could reduce the risk of death by a third among hospitalized patients requiring ventilation. In their spreadsheets, the numbers around dexamethasone were like a beacon. "We built CORONA to help uncover something like dexamethasone," he said. "It's a cheap repurposed drug that's been around for 60 years. This is what it's all about."
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One drug, the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, has famously received a lot of boosterism from US President Donald Trump. But in the published studies available for Fajgenbaum's team to review, the drug hasn't outperformed others Two French studies on hydroxychloroquine drew red flags for the University of Pennsylvania-based team because of the clinical end point the researchers chose: the time when the coronavirus cleared the body. It can be problematic to base an argument for a drug's success only on that particular metric, because it leaves out crucial details from a person's longer-term experience following infection. "'Virally cured' is a challenging term," Fajgenbaum said. "We don't know if they're discharged how they fared after leaving the hospital." On top of that, the reviewers were skeptical because the virus took a long time to leave the patients' bodies, which they refer to as "a high time to viral clearance." That indicator that could suggest the drug was slow to take effect, or that other factors, including the patient's own immune system, played a larger role in expelling the pathogen.
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F/N: Dr Raoult before the parliamentary commission: http://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20200625-controversial-french-doctor-slams-government-covid-19-response-parliament-inquiry >> French virologist Didier Raoult denounced the government's ‘archaic’ virus testing and ban on an anti-malarial drug to treat Covid-19 patients at a parliament hearing on Wednesday. The doctor, who advocates the use of hydroxychloroquine to combat Covid-19, accused his critics of a conflict of interest with pharmaceutical companies. Didier Raoult was quizzed by lawmakers for over three hours on Wednesday, as they sought to evaluate the government’s handling of the health crisis and Raoult’s role in it. The head of a university hospital institute in Marseille, Raoult became France’s best-known doctor in late February after announcing a potential cure [--> treatment is likely a better rendering] for the coronavirus. In March he joined the country’s scientific council set up to advise the government on how to respond to the pandemic. Shortly after his appointment Raoult walked out. "This was not a scientific council," he told lawmakers, criticising the body’s lack of experience. "I have one in Marseille, which is the envy of the whole world. It is not made up of guys who work amongst themselves and address each other informally in terms such as 'and you, what do you think ?'" he explained. Raoult reproaches the council's members for taking political decisions that did not concern them, including modelling the trajectory of the disease. "You have to be insane to think that you can predict the evolution of a virus that we don't know," he commented. Tests were possible What was also crazy in Raoult's opinion was the government's policy on testing. "I do not agree with the decision not to do tests," he explained. "From the month of March, the World Health Organization urged countries to test massively," Raoult told lawmakers. At the time, Health Minister Olivier Veran called for a "rational and reasonable use of tests," amid fears of a shortage of Covid-19 test kits. "There was a mechanism set up: since we can't do tests, tests are not important. But this was not true. We could carry out tests," he insisted, slamming what he described as the governments "archaic" organisation. Ban a mistake The ferocity of his attacks however were reserved for the state's ban on anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, a related compound of chloroquine. "In 2019, 36 million hydroxychloroquine tablets were given out without a prescription!" Raoult said. "Then all of a sudden, we are no longer allowed to use it? The person who helped make this decision made a mistake." [--> so the report I picked up that it may be OTC in some places c 2019 was true] The French government banned the drug in May after the publication of a Lancet observational study of 15,000 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine, which showed the health risks were considerably greater. Raoult denounced the Lancet study as “bogus”. [--> the Lancet study had to be withdrawn] Shortly afterwards, the medical journal withdrew the study after three of its authors retracted it, citing concerns about the quality and veracity of data in it. Raoult said the incident was an attempt by his critics to discredit his hydroxychloroquine cure, combined with antibacterial drug, azithromycin. He accused them of working for American pharmaceutical company Gilead, which sought to promote its own drug known as remdesivir. Conflict of interest The infectious disease expert said it was no coincidence that Gilead's shares had increased on the stock market on the back of the success of its clinical trial of the anti-viral treatment. "When I first talked about chloroquine, I was threatened several times by the man who received the most money from Gilead in six years," Raoult told lawmakers. "I recommend that you do an investigation on Gilead and remdesivir. If you look at its structure, it has very few products, and staff but a lot of influence." Pressed for precise details by lawmakers, Raoult referred them to the website Transparence Santé, which tracks potential conflicts of interest between companies and health workers. "Everything I'm telling you is on line, it's as simple as cabbage, you can verify everything," he said.>> He is indubitably a colourful character of a type familiar from the French intelligentsia, but it seems he has a point or two we need to pay attention to. KFkairosfocus
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Sev, Raoult is not an independent researcher but head of an institute with 80+ researchers located in a hospital cluster with 3500 or so beds. That's why he could do so many tests including multiple CT scans on nearly 600 patients. The paper identifies that at that point where symptoms bring one to the doctor, significant lung damage is there. That's why v early mild case treatment regimes are so vital a necessity. KFkairosfocus
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Folks, for cause, I repeat:
the data on record speak, and speak with sufficient force. The ethical-epistemological challenge also speaks. It is going to take a long time but medicine, its administration and research are going to change when the dust, clouds and poison of this spring settle.
We now have good cause to hold that the medical establishment and linked treatment research have become ethically bankrupt and epistemologically blind. That will not end well. KFkairosfocus
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Severrsky, it is clear that you refuse to recognise realities of multiple authorship in what is in effect a research factory. KFkairosfocus
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In other words, independent research into hydrochloroquine has not provided corroboration for the claims Dr Raoult has made for the drug, He is resorting to what amounts to a conspiracy theory in order to defend his position whilst still deflecting questions about how he could have co-authored an improbably high number of published papers.Seversky
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Korea is carrying out 13 clinical trials on treatments and two studies on vaccines related to Covid-19, the Ministry of Food and Drug Safety said Friday The nation is conducting two phase-3, four phase-2, and seven investigator-initiated trials. Of the 13 Covid-19 treatments under trials, four were developed by Korean and are phase 2 trials. All five studies on hydroxychloroquine, a malaria drug found to have no therapeutic effect on Covid-19, have been terminated. http://m.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=8614rhampton7
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Didier Raoult accused opponents of chloroquine of conflicts of interest with Gilead Sciences during his hearing in the National Assembly on Wednesday Professor Didier Raoult was heard at length by the deputies in the National Assembly, where he spoke about Gilead, a Californian pharmaceutical laboratory. He notably claimed to have identified the doctor "who had received the most money from Gilead in six years". He advised the deputies to go and check “conflicts of interest” with the scientific council on the sites dedicated to transparency in the health field. But the operation is not so simple. A little earlier in the hearing, Didier Raoult had said about the relations between certain members of the scientific council and the pharmaceutical laboratories: “All of this is transparent. Look on the Internet, it's easy as cabbage. And the professor to quote the sites "Transparency Health" and "Euros For Docs". We followed the advice of Didier Raoult, but the procedure is not exactly "easy as cabbage". A database listing, on declarations by companies, the “links of interest” between pharmaceutical laboratories and health professionals was officially launched in June 2014 to improve “confidence” between users and the world of medical research. after the Mediator scandal . But Transparency Health is difficult to read and difficult to use. Concretely, unless you start a manual search of all the doctors having links of interest with Gilead Sciences and compare the amounts involved, it is not possible, at this stage, to affirm that a doctor has received more money from Gilead. Because each declaration should be added up in each of the three categories (benefits, agreements, remuneration) for each health professional concerned. For Gilead, there are, for example, nearly 115,000 entries. The Euros For Docs collective , mentioned by Professor Raoult, precisely wants to “simplify access” to the Transparency Health database to explore lobbying in the health industries. This database has already been used by the media. A collective of journalists in the region, Data + Local, used it for its #TransparenceCHU surveys, published in January. Thus, for Gilead Sciences, the laboratory has declared 63.3 million euros in interest links since 2014. But this tool also has its limits: it is not possible to classify the total amount spent by a company for each practitioner. The platform gives, however, the possibility of consulting the total amount of the links of interests between a doctor and a company. But, again, to be able to say that a health professional is the one who received the most money, one would have to compare him with all the other practitioners, one by one. Finally, let's come back to the identification of the author of the threats. An investigation for "acts of intimidation, but not death threats" is underway, conducted by the Nantes prosecution. We remind you, the presumption of innocence prevails and Didier Raoult is not justified in designating, even without naming him, the author of the threats before he is found guilty. https://www.20minutes.fr/societe/2807951-20200626-coronavirus-simple-comme-chou-verifier-liens-entre-medecins-laboratoires-pharmaceutiques-comme-dit-didier-raoultrhampton7
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Faced with Jean-Jacques Bourdin , who asked D. Raoult "why this treatment has not been administered on the whole planet [ if it is ] so effective" , the infectious disease specialist and director of the IHU Méditerranée Infection undertook to cite many examples from across the globe : “There are 4.5 billion people worldwide who live in countries where hydroxychloroquine is recommended for the treatment of Covid . […] In Brazil, in the USA, in China, and Inside, in Korea . Before nuancing : "In the United States , it is not generally recommended. " "There is 4.5 billion people live in countries where it is recommended (...) I I know this disease , better than others (...) Nobody has the data we have on the legacy " ???? Didier Raoult , infectiologist #BourdinDirect pic.twitter.com/Gn0okDq26g "In India , in China, throughout the Far East , in all the countries of the Maghreb , half of the countries of black Africa , a large part of South America ... When you count all that , it makes 4 , 5 billion people ” , finally concluded Didier Raoult . https://fr.ebene-magazine.com/lhydroxychloroquine-est-elle-recommandee-dans-les-pays-cites-par-raoult/rhampton7
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RH7, the data on record speak, and speak with sufficient force. The ethical-epistemological challenge also speaks. It is going to take a long time but medicine, its administration and research are going to change when the dust, clouds and poison of this spring settle. KFkairosfocus
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