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Dembski: Is truth just what your peers will let you get away with saying?

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He argues, sound, logical thinking is NOT the norm. Many people, anxious to remain in good standing with leaders and influencers, live quite happily with incoherence and inconsistencies:

We inhabit not merely a physical environment but also a cultural environment. Our cultural environment sets boundaries for what we may think, what we can say, and how we should live. Stray beyond these boundaries, and you’ll face a cultural backlash. Our cultural environment includes our ideas about what exists, what can be known, and what counts as evidence for our beliefs. It assigns value to our life and work. It describes what’s within and beyond the moral pale. Above all, it determines our plausibility structures — what we find reasonable or unreasonable, credible or incredible, thinkable or unthinkable.

Christian apologetics lives and moves within such a cultural environment. To be effective, Christian apologetics therefore needs to work effectively within its cultural environment. That’s not to say that it should bow to the cultural environment. Quite the contrary: in a fallen world like ours, cultural environments will always to varying degrees be corrupt, and it is the task of Christian apologists to speak truth to and transform for the better any cultural environment in which they find themselves.

News, “Is truth just what your peers will let you get away with saying?” at Mind Matters News

Takehome: Christian apologists should recognize that incoherence and inconsistencies only become a problem in most people’s thinking when they hinder their lives.


The entire analysis is here.

Here’s the first portion (Parts 1 and 2) published at Mind Matters News

What makes arguments for God convincing — or not? Is truth enough? A look at the unfulfilled promise of Christian apologetics: Christian apologetics has, in my view, mainly been in the business of playing defense when it needs to be playing offense.

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As to: "Many people, anxious to remain in good standing with leaders and influencers, live quite happily with incoherence and inconsistencies:" Aside from the 'inconvenient truth' that the entire abstract, immaterial, concept of 'truth' can't even be grounded within Atheistic Materialism in the first place,
1. For a worldview to possibly ‘find the truth’, it must first be able to ground the abstract and immaterial concept of truth. 2. Darwinian materialism is completely unable to ground the abstract and immaterial concept of truth within its reductive materialistic framework. 3. Darwinian evolution, therefore, cannot possibly ‘find the truth’, nor can it even possibly ever be a ‘true’ worldview. https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/maori-creationism-is-okay-in-new-zealand-schools-objectors-could-be-booted-from-nzs-royal-society/#comment-741814
Aside from that rather 'inconvenient truth' for the Atheistic Materialist, one of the most powerful evidences that Atheistic Materialism cannot possibly be true is the fact that Atheistic Materialists themselves don't live their lives as if Atheistic Materialism were actually true. i.e. they "live quite happily with incoherence and inconsistencies:" As the following article notes, "materialists never put their money where their mouth is. Nobody thinks his daughter is just molecules in motion and nothing but; nobody thinks the Holocaust was evil, but only in a relative, provisional sense. A materialist who lived his life according to his professed convictions—understanding himself to have no moral agency at all, seeing his friends and enemies and family as genetically determined robots—wouldn’t just be a materialist: He’d be a psychopath."
The Heretic - Who is Thomas Nagel and why are so many of his fellow academics condemning him? - March 25, 2013 Excerpt: Neo-Darwinism insists that every phenomenon, every species, every trait of every species, is the consequence of random chance, as natural selection requires. And yet, Nagel says, “certain things are so remarkable that they have to be explained as non-accidental if we are to pretend to a real understanding of the world.”? ,,,Fortunately, materialism is never translated into life as it’s lived. As colleagues and friends, husbands and mothers, wives and fathers, sons and daughters, materialists never put their money where their mouth is. Nobody thinks his daughter is just molecules in motion and nothing but; nobody thinks the Holocaust was evil, but only in a relative, provisional sense. A materialist who lived his life according to his professed convictions—understanding himself to have no moral agency at all, seeing his friends and enemies and family as genetically determined robots—wouldn’t just be a materialist: He’d be a psychopath. http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/heretic_707692.html?page=3
In the following article, Nancy Pearcey quotes several leading Atheistic Materialists in academia who honestly confess that it is impossible for them to live their lives consistently as if atheistic materialism were actually true. She even quotes a professor emeritus at MIT directly who stated, quote-unquote, "I maintain two sets of inconsistent beliefs", in regards to his worldview of Atheistic Materialism and how he actually lives his life.
Darwin's Robots: When Evolutionary Materialists Admit that Their Own Worldview Fails - Nancy Pearcey - April 23, 2015 Excerpt: When I teach these concepts in the classroom, an example my students find especially poignant is Flesh and Machines by Rodney Brooks, professor emeritus at MIT. Brooks writes that a human being is nothing but a machine -- a "big bag of skin full of biomolecules" interacting by the laws of physics and chemistry. In ordinary life, of course, it is difficult to actually see people that way. But, he says, "When I look at my children, I can, when I force myself, ... see that they are machines." Is that how he treats them, though? Of course not: "That is not how I treat them.... I interact with them on an entirely different level. They have my unconditional love, the furthest one might be able to get from rational analysis." Certainly if what counts as "rational" is a materialist worldview in which humans are machines, then loving your children is irrational. It has no basis within Brooks's worldview. It sticks out of his box. How does he reconcile such a heart-wrenching cognitive dissonance? He doesn't. Brooks ends by saying, "I maintain two sets of inconsistent beliefs." He has given up on any attempt to reconcile his theory with his experience. He has abandoned all hope for a unified, logically consistent worldview. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/04/when_evolutiona095451.html
Richard Dawkins himself, who has been quite open about his hatred of God,
Ben Stein vs. Richard Dawkins Interview (No Intelligence Allowed) - video clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc
Richard Dawkins himself honestly admitted that it would be quote unquote "intolerable" for him to live his life as if his atheistic materialism were actually true
Who wrote Richard Dawkins’s new book? – October 28, 2006 Excerpt: Dawkins: What I do know is that what it feels like to me, and I think to all of us, we don't feel determined. We feel like blaming people for what they do or giving people the credit for what they do. We feel like admiring people for what they do.,,, Manzari: But do you personally see that as an inconsistency in your views? Dawkins: I sort of do. Yes. But it is an inconsistency that we sort of have to live with otherwise life would be intolerable. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/10/who_wrote_richard_dawkinss_new002783.html
In what should be needless to say, if it is impossible for you to live as if your worldview were actually true then your worldview cannot possibly reflect reality as it really is but your worldview must instead be based on a delusion.
Existential Argument against Atheism - November 1, 2013 by Jason Petersen Excerpt: 1. If a worldview is true then you should be able to live consistently with that worldview. 2. Atheists are unable to live consistently with their worldview. 3. If you can’t live consistently with an atheist worldview then the worldview does not reflect reality. 4. If a worldview does not reflect reality then that worldview is a delusion. 5. If atheism is a delusion then atheism cannot be true. Conclusion: Atheism is false. http://answersforhope.com/existential-argument-atheism/
An Atheist once, (when this rather 'inconvenient truth' was pointed out to him), tried to counter the fact that he can't possibly live his life consistently as if his Atheistic materialism were actually true with the (false) counterclaim of, (paraphrase), "So what?, Christians also can't live their lives as if their Christianity is actually true?" Another blogger on UD, who was/is a Christian, directly challenged him on that (false) claim and pointed out that he can live his life perfectly consistently as if Christianity is actually true. i.e. That God exists, that God created the universe and all life in it, that we were made in the image of God,, that humanity is now in a fallen, i.e. sinful, state, and that Jesus died on a cross, and rose again, as a propitiation for our moral imperfections, for our sins, so that we might inherit eternal life.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
There is simply nothing within that basic overview of the Christian worldview that forces anyone to live his life inconsistently.,, Whereas, again, it is simply impossible for atheists to live their lives as if their atheistic materialism were actually true. Quote:
"Speculations, man, I have none. I have certainties. I thank God that I don't rest my dying head upon speculations for "I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I've committed unto him against that day." - Michael Faraday - https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~varghese/whyIbelieve.pdf (Michael Faraday was an English scientist who contributed to the study of electromagnetism and electrochemistry. His main discoveries include the principles underlying electromagnetic induction, diamagnetism and electrolysis.) ,,, ,,,, The president of the Institution for Electrical Engineers (IEE), for instance, at the unveiling of a Michael Faraday statue in 1989, said, “His discoveries have had an incalculable effect on subsequent scientific and technical development. He was a true pioneer of scientific discovery.” https://crev.info/scientists/michael-faraday/
bornagain77
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Apologetics and truth are way down the list of priorities. Saving the people from NAZI TORTURE CHAMBERS should come first.
Good news: we can tick that one off the list.Bob O'H
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If you want to have a church, you need to have living people in it, and then you need to provide something of value for those living people. Apologetics and truth are way down the list of priorities. Saving the people from NAZI TORTURE CHAMBERS should come first. For the last 30 years churches have completely failed to serve or help their own customers. In 2020 all the churches CHEERFULLY joined the NAZI TORTURERS. Why should anyone bother with churches when they're just as bad as doctors and politicians and corporations.?polistra
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Of course, we must distinguish typical behaviours from parasitical and destructive/evil but common enough ones [e.g. lying], from what is socially approved/disapproved [chattel slavery and racism were once approved], from what is normative by virtue of being lawful in accord with justice, truth, right reason, neighbour-love and other first duties of responsible rational freedom. Recall, the first foundation stone of injustice is untruth. That is part of the reformational critique that we must make at this time of peril. KF PS, per Ari, truth says of what is that it is and of what is not that it is not.kairosfocus
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