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Does a culture reach a point where a rebirth of science is not even possible?

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Or not any time soon enough to matter:

For too long, there has been a longstanding slowdown in support for challenging paradigms — a “graying” of science that has resulted in talented scientists receiving their first large grants when they are ten years older than was typical of scientists in the past. The conflict of interest between Dr. Fauci’s roles as funder and lockdown architect is merely one example of how those within existing power structures in the scientific community control which ideas are deemed valid. Those wielding power are afraid of having their views and orthodoxy overturned. Those who control the funding and the publication are often the same people, and peer review itself has shifted from controlling quality to controlling ideas.

It’s not an exaggeration to view the iron-fisted grip over the funding and publication of new scientific findings as a threat to the continuation of scientific freedom. It’s increasingly hard for ideas that challenge orthodoxy to break through. This is a recipe for a prolonged stagnation that could jeopardize the societal well-being, economic health, and security of the United States.

Scott W. Atlas, Jay Bhattacharya & Martin Kulldorff, “America Needs a Rebirth of Science” at Natoinal Review (December 20, 2021)

Question: What are they actually going to do?

Anyone who lives in an aging society will be aware of this problem: Old ladies demanding endless lockdowns and crackdowns to fight COVID-19 who don’t even know what viruses are. Or care. But they don’t need to know — or care — because viruses are “science.” Once science replaced religion in some people’s lives, science became a superstition. And it shows.

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Science is a procedure it provides absolutely nothing, it is a method of investigation employed by investigators often called scientists If you say “the miracles of science” “look at what science provided” or “science discovered X” then you are a hypocritical religious nut that has simply replaced the word God with science It makes you a hypocrite and if you say “well I think science is far more valuable then your magic man in the sky” than that’s just your subjective opinion which has no value whatsoever other than to yourself But science is a procedure Done by people and people provide their discoveries And Seversky about god forgetting to mention those things (which god really didn’t thank you for the almost clever remark) Edward Jenner is the father of the vaccine and a devout Christian that didn’t want people dedicating his discovery to him but simply wanted to be recognized as an instrument of god, Alex Fleming who discovered penicillin in the most bizarre way was also a Christian, and Louis Pasteur was a devout Christian. They have contributed with their filthy religious views and scientific knowledge more than anyone human being that I know today because most of the people today are alive because of them. All of them believed in GodAaronS1978
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Link should have been https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1474747841247686657jerry
December 26, 2021
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Appropriate cartoon for science’s problems today https://twitter.com/Olga04112912/status/1473979468939239427jerry
December 26, 2021
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Seversky and Chuck - the Gallagher and Shean of commentary. Chuck handles diversions, Seversky the weary wisecracks.Belfast
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Is this the Jedi fighting the Empire? The Empire has struck back at these Jedi already several times. Funding is available from other sources besides the government Aside:
Ageism at its ugliest
The average age of the writers of this OP - about 63 years old. The oldest is Denyse. She is able to recognize old ladies.
Whoever wrote this article needs to be seriously schooled in manners and good taste
Nomination for top 5 ironic UD comments of the year. jerry
December 22, 2021
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Reformation (of the culture) is always theoretically possible, and culture is upstream of science. What is upstream of culture? Religion. We live in an age where educated people are so ignorant and simultaneously proud that they believe they are not religious when their behaviours, thought patterns, and prejudices scream the very opposite. Often enough they themselves are screaming. Without a reformation of our civic religion there will be no rebirth of anything, merely a continuing slide down that slippery slope we were all assured was a superstition, a myth, a spooky story to frighten budding progressive social engineers, but down which we are now collectively hurtling at breakneck speed. Is there a point at which the slope goes vertical, and thus no recovery is possible? Have we already passed it? Nobody wants to think so, do we? Still, whatever that case may be, science itself is a fruit of civilisation and not a root, and so worrying about it is ... well, fruitless. The axe is laid at the root of the tree.ScuzzaMan
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Ageism at its ugliest. Whoever wrote this article needs to be seriously schooled in manners and good taste.chuckdarwin
December 22, 2021
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Anyone who lives in an aging society will be aware of this problem: Old ladies demanding endless lockdowns and crackdowns to fight COVID-19 who don’t even know what viruses are. Or care. But they don’t need to know — or care — because viruses are “science.” Once science replaced religion in some people’s lives, science became a superstition. And it shows
It was science that discovered viruses and bacteria all by itself - and drugs and vaccines to deal with them. God forgot to mention them. So who should old ladies trust more when it comes to medical matters?Seversky
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"Once science replaced religion in some people’s lives, science became a superstition. And it shows." Well written, News. Andrewasauber
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Around here anyway, it's not the old ladies who are pushing for more torture. It's the young upwardly mobile womxns, the courtiers who want to be noticed and approved by Dear Leader Fauci. Old folks remember REAL epidemics like polio and smallpox and the '57 flu. We KNOW what viruses are, and our bodies also know.polistra
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Money is the key. As long as the most demonic sections of government are the main money sources, science will serve Satan. One institution has lasted for 500 years without descending into evil or losing its purpose. Trinity House was started by Henry VIII to improve navigation. Along the way it funded Rayleigh's acoustics, Marconi's wireless, and a lot of optics and electrical work, specifically to improve the safety of ships. Maybe its organization could provlde clues for a new foundation with a similar specific purpose? http://polistrasmill.blogspot.com/2020/08/trinity-house-and-science.htmlpolistra
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