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New vid series takes aim at toxic materialism in science

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A new series at YouTube, from the Discovery Institute, questions the easy equation of materialism and science:

The culture that propagates the myth works through the media, through popular science spokesmen like Neil deGrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins, through education that takes the form of indoctrination, and with the insistent endorsement of more than a few genuine scientists who, like so many in the public, have swallowed the materialist Kool-Aid. They’ve convinced millions of people that reality goes no further than what we can see and touch. If true, that would mean that the things we care about most, including love, passion, meaning, a sense of right and wrong, and so much else, are illusions. Unfortunately, a great many people believe that.

One of the ironies of this way of thinking is that if “science proves” that only brains not minds are real, then no minds do science. That would mean there are no scientists, and no science. Besides being spiritually toxic, a “scientific” idea like that is fake science. “First Episode of Science Uprising Is Out: Fake Science and Toxic Materialism” at Evolution News and Science Today:

Fake Science
Hiding behind masks

One thing that materialism isn’t doing in science today is working very well.

One hears so many arguments that our coffee mugs must be conscious if we are or that the universe is a space alien computer sim — if they weren’t claiming it was science, who would care? But they are.

There are at least six vids in the series,

See also: How naturalism rots science from the head down

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2 Replies to “New vid series takes aim at toxic materialism in science

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    AaronS1978 says:

    In the video they say love doesn’t exist for materialist

    Materialist believe love Exist it’s just a combination of dopamine and oxytocin being released inside the brain which causes you to have feel good feelings and they categorize it is nothing more different than hunger so it is not special

    That definition of things combined with loosely studies that support their point of you ruined a lot of my life. They manage to take something that I felt was incredibly special and turn it into the argument of “God can’t make a rock that God can’t lift so God can’t do everything” I had a similar argument is there is no such thing as an unselfish act

    You only love somebody because it feels good

    They don’t believe in the immaterial idea of love. And certainly not the type of love that you share with your significant other that it is a combination of oxytocin and Dopamine. if it’s true, if it’s even remotely true, it sucks all the meaning and all the feel good straight out of the concept of love and leaves nothing more than an empty shell and for me I just stop feeling the love anymore. Or at least that’s how I feel, After reading some of their literature

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    bornagain77 says:

    3:37 quote:

    “Any philosophical view that entails you don’t exist is a view that you ought not entertain.”
    – Jay Richards

    Or as Rowan Williams stated in response to Richard Dawkins’s claim that ‘consciousness is an illusion’,, ”If consciousness is an illusion…what isn’t?”.

    At the 23:33 minute mark of the following video, Richard Dawkins agrees with materialistic philosophers who say that:
    “consciousness is an illusion”
    A few minutes later Rowan Williams asks Dawkins ”If consciousness is an illusion…what isn’t?”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWN4cfh1Fac&t=22m57s

    The inescapable conclusion is that unless Consciousness with a capital “C”, i.e. the “Mind of God”, is the ultimate reality upon which everything else in this universe is contingent, including our own immaterial minds, then nothing else can possibly be real for us in the first place.

    “No, I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.”
    Max Planck (1858–1947), the main founder of quantum theory, The Observer, London, January 25, 1931

    “Consciousness cannot be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental. It cannot be accounted for in terms of anything else.”
    Schroedinger, Erwin. 1984. “General Scientific and Popular Papers,” in Collected Papers, Vol. 4. Vienna: Austrian Academy of Sciences. Friedr. Vieweg & Sohn, Braunschweig/Wiesbaden. p. 334.

    “The principal argument against materialism is not that illustrated in the last two sections: that it is incompatible with quantum theory. The principal argument is that thought processes and consciousness are the primary concepts, that our knowledge of the external world is the content of our consciousness and that the consciousness, therefore, cannot be denied. On the contrary, logically, the external world could be denied—though it is not very practical to do so. In the words of Niels Bohr, “The word consciousness, applied to ourselves as well as to others, is indispensable when dealing with the human situation.” In view of all this, one may well wonder how materialism, the doctrine that “life could be explained by sophisticated combinations of physical and chemical laws,” could so long be accepted by the majority of scientists.”
    – Eugene Wigner, Remarks on the Mind-Body Question, pp 167-177.

    In support of that self-evident truth is the recent falsification of realism, i.e. realism is the belief that material reality exists ‘out there’ completely independent of our conscious observation of it:

    New Mind-blowing Experiment Confirms That Reality Doesn’t Exist If You Are Not Looking at It – June 3, 2015
    Excerpt: Some particles, such as photons or electrons, can behave both as particles and as waves. Here comes a question of what exactly makes a photon or an electron act either as a particle or a wave. This is what Wheeler’s experiment asks: at what point does an object ‘decide’?
    The results of the Australian scientists’ experiment, which were published in the journal Nature Physics, show that this choice is determined by the way the object is measured, which is in accordance with what quantum theory predicts.
    “It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it,” said lead researcher Dr. Andrew Truscott in a press release.,,,
    “The atoms did not travel from A to B. It was only when they were measured at the end of the journey that their wave-like or particle-like behavior was brought into existence,” he said.
    Thus, this experiment adds to the validity of the quantum theory and provides new evidence to the idea that reality doesn’t exist without an observer.
    http://themindunleashed.org/20.....at-it.html

    Quantum physics says goodbye to reality – Apr 20, 2007
    Excerpt: Many realizations of the thought experiment have indeed verified the violation of Bell’s inequality. These have ruled out all hidden-variables theories based on joint assumptions of realism, meaning that reality exists when we are not observing it; and locality, meaning that separated events cannot influence one another instantaneously. But a violation of Bell’s inequality does not tell specifically which assumption – realism, locality or both – is discordant with quantum mechanics.
    Markus Aspelmeyer, Anton Zeilinger and colleagues from the University of Vienna, however, have now shown that realism is more of a problem than locality in the quantum world. They devised an experiment that violates a different inequality proposed by physicist Anthony Leggett in 2003 that relies only on realism, and relaxes the reliance on locality. To do this, rather than taking measurements along just one plane of polarization, the Austrian team took measurements in additional, perpendicular planes to check for elliptical polarization.
    They found that, just as in the realizations of Bell’s thought experiment, Leggett’s inequality is violated – thus stressing the quantum-mechanical assertion that reality does not exist when we’re not observing it. “Our study shows that ‘just’ giving up the concept of locality would not be enough to obtain a more complete description of quantum mechanics,” Aspelmeyer told Physics Web. “You would also have to give up certain intuitive features of realism.”
    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/27640

    “I’m going to talk about the Bell inequality, and more importantly a new inequality that you might not have heard of called the Leggett inequality, that was recently measured. It was actually formulated almost 30 years ago by Professor Leggett, who is a Nobel Prize winner, but it wasn’t tested until about a year and a half ago (in 2007), when an article appeared in Nature, that the measurement was made by this prominent quantum group in Vienna led by Anton Zeilinger, which they measured the Leggett inequality, which actually goes a step deeper than the Bell inequality and rules out any possible interpretation other than consciousness creates reality when the measurement is made.”
    – Bernard Haisch, Ph.D., Calphysics Institute, is an astrophysicist and author of over 130 scientific publications.

    Of related interest, it is also interesting to note that in Near Death Experiences that the subjective conscious awareness of a person is found to become ‘more real than real’ during their NDE.

    ‘Afterlife’ feels ‘even more real than real,’ researcher says – Wed April 10, 2013
    Excerpt: “If you use this questionnaire … if the memory is real, it’s richer, and if the memory is recent, it’s richer,” he said.
    The coma scientists weren’t expecting what the tests revealed.
    “To our surprise, NDEs were much richer than any imagined event or any real event of these coma survivors,” Laureys reported.
    The memories of these experiences beat all other memories, hands down, for their vivid sense of reality. “The difference was so vast,” he said with a sense of astonishment.
    Even if the patient had the experience a long time ago, its memory was as rich “as though it was yesterday,” Laureys said.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/09/.....periences/

    A Doctor’s Near Death Experience Inspires a New Life – video
    Quote: “It’s not like a dream. It’s like the world we are living in is a dream and it’s kind of like waking up from that.”
    Dr. Magrisso
    http://www.nbcchicago.com/on-a.....31791.html

    Medical Miracles – Dr. Mary Neal’s Near Death Experience – video (‘More real than real’ 37:49 minute mark)
    https://youtu.be/WCNjmWP2JjU?t=2269

    Having a “more real than real” experience when a person is clinically dead is simply completely inexplicable on atheistic materialism, (especially since atheistic materialists hold consciousness is illusory in the first place). Whereas under Christian presuppositions, having a ‘more real than real’ experience is expected since the Mind of God is held to be the primary source of all reality, including our own minds. And thus we would fully expect to become ‘more alive’ and feel ‘more real’ the closer to God that we got.

    One more note:

    How Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness Correlate – video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f0hL3Nrdas

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