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Wanted: Troll monitor. Start immediately.

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trollNo, not here. Trolls are currently on the Ecosphere Critically Endangered list at UD –  and if you know of an inhabited cave, snitch.

But look here: Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry offers this discussion forum: “The most snaky Christian theologian/philosopher I know of today is … ”

is never mind who.

Someone we’ve discussed here, as it happens.

Yes, it’s just as bad when the ID guys are discussed and maybe worse.

Hack journo asks (serious question): How do Christian sponsored apologetics sites (assuming this is actually one, and not a front) fall into the hands of “no intelligence required” trolls?

Just askin’ is all.

7 Replies to “Wanted: Troll monitor. Start immediately.

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    Ilion says:

    How do Christian sponsored apologetics sites (assuming this is actually one, and not a front) fall into the hands of “no intelligence required” trolls?

    It’s that foolish (and, really, unBiblical) “bending over backwards in charity” mindset that far too many Christians mistake as being the heart of Christianity as it is lived out.

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    O'Leary says:

    Kairosfocus at 2: Good, but I assure you, our TM is vastly scarier than that.

    He thinks responsible intellectual freedom among ladies and gentlemen is civilization, and that profane brawls and muggings by trolls and broomsticks are not.

    That should scare a lot of people who think that wilful stupidity and bad temper are assets in life.

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    jpark320 says:

    As a volunteer of CARM and big and long time fan of this site (I even have a personally signed book by Dr. Dembski!)I feel I should say something on behalf of CARM.

    How do Christian sponsored apologetics sites (assuming this is actually one, and not a front) fall into the hands of “no intelligence required” trolls?

    First the link to the “trolled’ CARM site is on their forums, not an official article that was posted from the staff.

    Second there is not enough manpower to keep watch over every single forum people can make. It is the double of sword of allowing people to freely express their thoughts (the side of the sword that hurts…)

    So it should be easy to monitor “flame wars” and “trolling” here given the limited number of post and that only official UD people can make those posts.

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    O'Leary says:

    jpark320 at 4, thanks for clarification. I am not sure that what CARM is doing – in this type of situation – needs to be done.

    Anyone can start a blog at Blogger for free in five minutes and start trashing just about anyone from there, and get all their friends to comment too.

    So why facilitate – and in some measure, take responsibility for – what happens anyway with no intervention?

    One needn’t be “official UD people” to post here, just someone who has signed in and is the kind of person who would be welcome at the summer block party. = any civilized neighbour

    jpark320 at 4, thanks for clarification. I am not sure that what CARM is doing – in this type of situation – needs to be done.

    Anyone can start a blog at Blogger for free in five minutes and start trashing just about anyone from there, and get all their friends to comment too.

    So why facilitate – and in some measure, take responsibility for – what happens anyway with no intervention?

    One needn’t be “official UD people” to post here, just someone who has signed in and is the kind of person who would be welcome at the summer block party. = any civilized neighbour

    For the record, I am a (minor) free speech journalist in my own country, and I likethe freedom of the Internet. But that freedom changes a lot of things.

    For one thing, as above, it is no longer necessary to make special arrangements for people who have free access to the Internet to express their views; if the self-expression is a problem, one can export the moral responsibility back to them by cutting them loose, withut actually stifling them.

    Many persons “banninated” by a troll monitor or site owner simply go off and start a blog to carry on about it for a while. And if they feel good about that, so do the rest of us.

    Only a big and ambitious government could wreck a system like that, which is how I became a free speech journalist.

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    Sonfaro says:

    Hey O’Leary,

    Eh… Just a heads up. Something weird is up with your post. Theres a whole section written twice.

    – Sonfaro

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    kairosfocus says:

    H’mm:

    Is THIS the UD troll monitor then? (Or, is he hiring out to CARM* . . . ? [Notice what he uses for a rifle!])

    GEM of TKI

    *PS: CARM is legit [I have known of and liked it for years, though for the real sleeper I suggest Dallas Willard], it plainly needs a TM!

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