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That inconvenient US State Dept memo on mass correspondence voting — in Ukraine

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Yes, they had to know the fire they were playing with — notice, testimony to congress:

Now, you try to tell me that this time and place it’s different. All you will do is raise the question whether you are an empty headed talking point parrot or something worse. Much worse. END

PS, here is my basic political analysis, for those willing to learn from hard bought history:

F/N Oct 26: In for a penny, in for a pound. Here — for reference — is my 2020 analysis of dirty, McFaul style colour revolutions vs the SOCOM insurgency escalator:

Where, here is the Russian Chief of General Staff’s view on dirty colour revolution games as 4th gen war operations:

Also, he maps the locations he has in mind in the first instance:

Notice, Ukraine 2004 as well as 14.

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Relatd/12
Cut the crap, OK? Armed and masked vigilantes? Wow. If I was on the ‘other side,’ I’d hire armed and masked vigilantes to make my opponents look bad. This is the usual mud slinging before any election. The tactics change, that’s all.
So, did you agree with Alex Jones when he claimed the Sandy Hook shooting was faked?Seversky
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F/N: Looks like troubles with correspondence voting are turning up currently:
Do you regard The Gateway Pundit as a reliable source?Seversky
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F/N: Looks like troubles with correspondence voting are turning up currently: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/new-numbers-released-pennsylvania-indicate-massive-ballot-fraud-255000-unverified-voters-candidates-demand-decertification-immediately/ KFkairosfocus
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Seversky at 11, Cut the crap, OK? Armed and masked vigilantes? Wow. If I was on the 'other side,' I'd hire armed and masked vigilantes to make my opponents look bad. This is the usual mud slinging before any election. The tactics change, that's all.relatd
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F/N: In recent days, there has been commentary here that reflects the nothing to see move on line on US election integrity. I have now put up State Department testimony and record showing the dangers as known from sad experience in Ukraine in 2004. I hoped that those raising talking points would pause, consider, respond. In any case, this is headlined record for reference — and there is much more that can be brought to the table. The US electoral system has been willfully brought to a fraud-conducive state and those pointing out the dangers are being marginalised. Those are sobering warning signs. KF
The sobering warning sign is the continued promotion of the totally unsubstantiated allegation that the 2020 election was wrongly decided due to voter fraud. Proponents of this claim have had multiple opportunities to present evidence for it in court or to bring it to the attention of the authorities but have signally failed to do so. The continued irresponsible advocacy of "The Big Lie" underlay the failed insurrection attempt of Jan 6 and is almost certainly behind recent reports of voter intimidation by armed vigilantes:
ARMED AND MASKED VIGILANTES ARE STAKING OUT ARIZONA BALLOT BOXES WITH THE GOP’S BLESSING […] With exactly two weeks to go until the midterm elections, Democrats and Republicans are out here making their respective cases re: why voters should allow them to either hold on to their majority in Congress or retake power. One way the two parties have diverged on tactics? Well, the GOP appears to be the only one openly encouraging its base to stake out ballot boxes and intimidate would-be voters. With guns. On Monday, Paul Penzone, the sheriff for Arizona’s Maricopa County, said he had to increase security at ballot drop boxes following a number of incidents involving individuals “keeping watch on the boxes and taking video of voters,” according to the Associated Press. On Friday, Penzone’s deputies responded after two people carrying guns and wearing masks and bulletproof vests appeared at a drop box in the Phoenix suburb of Mesa. The following day, per HuffPost, four people, two of whom reportedly also had guns, “got into a confrontation at the same drop box” when another person showed up and attempted to take down their license plate information, which was obstructed. “Every day I’m dedicating a considerable amount of resources just to give people confidence that they can cast a vote safely, and that is absurd,” Penzone said during a news conference. He added that his office had referred two voting-related incidents to prosecutors for possible criminal charges. Last week two Maricopa County officials issued a joint statement saying: “We are deeply concerned about the safety of individuals who are exercising their constitutional right to vote and who are lawfully taking their early ballot to a drop box. Uninformed vigilantes outside Maricopa County’s drop boxes are not increasing election integrity. Instead, they are leading to voter-intimidation complaints.”
Such incidents are warning signs that this continued promotion of "The Big Lie" concerning electoral integrity now amounts to incitement of seditious and potentially armed insurrection against the lawful government of the United States. If we want to continue to enjoy the benefits of democracy, imperfect as it undoubtedly is, we must take a stand against those who would bring it down.Seversky
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I think people understand what is happening in the Ukraine in direct relation to the distance. In the U.S., the Ukraine is just a place on a map with little, if any, significance, unless your family is Ukrainian. In Western Europe, again distance is a primary factor. In the UK, the Ukraine is a faraway place. In Western Europe, the same. Only in Eastern Europe, especially in Slavic countries like Poland, is there a great concern. In Belarus, or Bia?y Rus in Polish, or White Russia. How many people in the U.S. know that Poland shares a border with White Russia? They might as well be on two separate planets. Or the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia? Election fraud is old news. A U.S. military presence in the Ukraine goes back some years.relatd
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Relatd, did you observe the date of the election and the testimony? 2004. At that time, there was a dubious election in Ukraine, with fraud conducive patterns and actions as outlined. An officer of the US State Dept testified as above, which is now archived as noted. This means the US Congress knew 16 years ahead of what was done in 2020 that such changes to an electoral system are conducive to fraud and discredit of the election system. There was no defence for what they did, indeed to proceed willfully as they did is tantamount to admission of willful intent to defraud the American electorate and to subvert lawful government. The media, likewise, were duty bound to know and report this in good time. They are an enabling party to the fraud and subversion, by way of a colour revolution, complete with red guards. Now it has gone further to a Reichstag fire incident with abusive lawfare. This is now a legitimacy crisis, beyond a mere constitutional crisis. KF PS, for what it's worth, Wikipedia confesses:
Presidential elections were held in Ukraine on 31 October, 21 November and 26 December 2004. The election was the fourth presidential election to take place in Ukraine following independence from the Soviet Union. The last stages of the election were contested between the opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko and incumbent Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych from the Party of Regions. It was later determined by the Ukrainian Supreme Court that the election was plagued by widespread falsification of the results in favour of Yanukovych.[1][2] According to Ukraine's electoral law, a two-round system is used to elect the president in which a candidate must win a majority (50% or more) of all ballots cast. The first round of voting was held on 31 October. As no candidate had 50% or more of the votes cast a run-off ballot between the two-highest polling candidates, Yushchenko and Yanukovych, was held on 21 November. According to official Central Election Commission results announced on 23 November, the run-off election was won by Yanukovych. The election results were challenged by Yushchenko and his supporters, with many international observers claiming that the election was rigged.[1][2] The subsequent events led to a political crisis in Ukraine, with widespread peaceful protesters, dubbed the "Orange Revolution", calling for a re-run second round election. The Ukrainian Supreme Court annulled the official run-off results and ordered a repeat of second round ballot.[1][2] The final re-run ballot was held on 26 December. Viktor Yushchenko was declared the winner with 52 percent of the vote to Yanukovych's 44 percent. Western observers reported that the re-run ballot was considered overall fairer than the previous ballots.[1][2] . . . . Following the November 21 run-off ballot, Ukraine's electoral commission declared Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych with 49.42% of the vote the winner with Viktor Yushchenko receiving 46.69% of the ballots cast.[5] Observers for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) said the run-off vote "did not meet international standards" and U.S. senior election observer, Senator Richard Lugar, called it a "concerted and forceful program of election day fraud" . . . . Between the two rounds of the election, dramatic increases in turnout were recorded in Yanukovych-supporting regions, while Yushchenko-supporting regions recorded the same turnout or lower than recorded in the first round. This effect was most marked in eastern Ukraine and especially in Yanukovych's stronghold of Donetsk Oblast, where a turnout of 98.5% was reportedly claimed—more than 40% up from the first round.[1][2] In some districts, turnout was recorded to be more than 100%, with one district reported by observers to have recorded a 127% turnout.[1][2] According to election observers and post-election investigations, pro-Yanukovych activists traveled around the country and voted many times as absentees.[1][2] Some groups dependent on government assistance, such as students, hospital patients and prisoners, were told to vote for the government candidate.[6] Many other alleged irregularities were reported, including ballot stuffing, intimidation at voting booths and huge numbers of new voters appearing on the electoral rolls—in Donetsk alone, half a million more voters were registered for the runoff election. Yanukovych won all but one of the regions where significant increases in turnout were noted. It was later determined by the Ukrainian Supreme Court that this was in fact due to widespread falsification of the results.[1][2] . . . . The United States government also decided not to recognize the election, and expressed dissatisfaction with the results; the outgoing US Secretary of State, Colin Powell, unequivocally stated that the result announced could not be accepted as legitimate by the United States. President George W. Bush and various members of Congress made statements disclosing their concern over the legitimacy of the polling . . . . he final results of the rerun ballot recorded Viktor Yushchenko receiving 52.00% of the votes, with Viktor Yanukovych on 44.19% which represented a change in the vote by +5.39% to Yushchenko and -5.27% from Yanukovych. Viktor Yanukovych conceded defeat on December 31, 2004, and subsequently resigned as Ukraine's Prime Minister the same day. Despite Yushchenko's victory in the second round of voting, the regional voting patterns remained largely unchanged between each round, with many southern and eastern provinces supporting Yanukovych, with the west and central regions favoring Yushchenko. Ukraine's supreme court rejected an appeal lodged by Viktor Yanukovych against the electoral commission's conduct of the election on January 6. On January 10 the Ukrainian Electoral Commission officially declared Viktor Yushchenko the winner and on January 11 published the final election results,[18] clearing the way for Yushchenko to be inaugurated as Ukraine's third President. The official ceremonies took place on Sunday, January 23 at about noon, when Yushchenko undertook the constitutional oath was sworn in as president . . .
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Seversky at 6, All I know for certain is that there are Russian troops in the Ukraine. I am seeing photo and video manipulation as well, and just plain lies. I have access to some sources outside of the Abnormal Media channels. No one, except those who need to know, and people in the Ukraine, know what's happening there. Take the Antonov 225. Is it still there? Was it damaged? Even the owners of this aircraft are not accepting still images or video as evidence. Don't worry Seversky. I don't need to know who you "really" are. I just read your posts which provide all the details anyone would need.relatd
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@6:
if want to be skeptical to that extent, there is also zero credible evidence you are who you claim to be or that I or anyone else here is who they claim to be.
Given that we all post under pseudonyms, no one here can verify claims that anyone else makes about what they've said or done. Which is, of course, part of the fun of it all: without the ability to determine who we are in real life, all we can respond to are the specific arguments being made. But I certainly don't accept at face value any claims made here about what someone has said, done, or seen.PyrrhoManiac1
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There is credible evidence Russian troops are on Ukrainian territory, not the other way round. Also, if want to be skeptical to that extent, there is also zero credible evidence you are who you claim to be or that I or anyone else here is who they claim to be.Seversky
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This is all baloney. There is zero credible information about the Ukraine being published by The Media. I have no reason to believe any of it. Where I live in the United States, I am watching ads that are lies being aired. Manipulation? Nothing new. Nothing new.relatd
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F/N: In recent days, there has been commentary here that reflects the nothing to see move on line on US election integrity. I have now put up State Department testimony and record showing the dangers as known from sad experience in Ukraine in 2004. I hoped that those raising talking points would pause, consider, respond. In any case, this is headlined record for reference -- and there is much more that can be brought to the table. The US electoral system has been willfully brought to a fraud-conducive state and those pointing out the dangers are being marginalised. Those are sobering warning signs. KFkairosfocus
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The obvious theme colour for the US case? Look at antifa clothing, black of course.kairosfocus
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The smoking gun on election fraud, from Congressional testimony, regarding Ukraine, in US State Dept archives, and with blatant direct reference to colour revolutions etc, including ongoing events in the US.kairosfocus
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That inconvenient US State Dept memo on mass correspondence voting — in Ukrainekairosfocus
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