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U-Haul a riot (where, lawless oligarchy is the “natural” state order)

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Yes, it seems some connected Alinsky School Community Organiser groups have been videotaped in the act, by independent, viral video journalists. Caught, in the act of unloading telling messages and riot equipment — shields and shield walls are not normal, “peaceful”/lawful protest equipment (and no, shields are not purely defensive) — from a rental truck:

Another . . . augmented . . . vid clip allows us to recognise the renter of the truck (black shorts girl), even as longer shields are being handed out:

This is of course directly connected to the incident where two police officers were shot by rioters in Louisville.

So, we can readily connect riots, red guard cannon fodder cultural revolution activism, the ecosystem of Alinsky School Community organisers and associated astroturfing front groups to backers, funders and CRITICAL X-THEORY ideologues . . . critical theories being rooted in Frankfurt School Culture Form, long march through the institutions marxism. Not to forget, the McFaul colour revolution primer/playbook:

The years since 2000 have seen a surprising new wave of democratic breakthroughs in the postcommunist countries of Serbia, Georgia, and Ukraine. This article compares and contrasts these three cases, naming seven common factors which made the breakthroughs in these countries possible:

1) a semi-autocratic rather than fully autocratic regime [–> or perception];
2) an unpopular incumbent [–> alt., media manipulation to demonise and stir critical mass of hostility];
3) a united and organized opposition [–> so, shadowy, orchestrating networks];
4) an ability quickly to drive home the point that voting results were falsified [–> i.e. media narrative domination, which can be just as easily used to slander a scapegoat],
5) enough independent media to inform citizens about the falsified vote [–> too often, this may be the orchestrated media],
6) a political opposition capable of mobilizing tens of thousands or more demonstrators to protest electoral fraud [–> or, red guards as cannon fodder], and
7) divisions among the regime’s coercive forces [–> what of, nests of the connected embedded in state, policing and law-making arms].
[See: Transitions from Post Communism, Journal of Democracy Volume 16, Number 3 July 2005]

Yes, there is a legitimate side to Mr Michel McFaul’s seven point colour revolution (now he has recently tried to rebrand: “democracy breakthrough”) scheme, but in ruthless hands such can readily be twisted into a playbook for coup by cultural revolution; as was pioneered by Chairman Mao in 1966. So, it can be very difficult to discern the truth and the right. On the optimistic case.

On the pessimistic one, both sides are in the wrong and the hungry power seekers may well impose the sort of reign of terror that has been a persistent feature of radical revolutions since 1789.

A Harvard study on the Egypt case gives pause:

In Egypt, protests and strikes began on January 25, 2011 (National Police Day) and lasted for 18 days, bringing together various opposition groups representing a wide cross section of Egyptian society including secularists, feminists, Islamists, anti-capitalists, and many others. Notably, while the January 25 protests were initiated by a group of opposition activists, the Egyptian Arab Spring did not have a centralized leadership and no single element of the opposition was in control. [–> a more balanced view but do not take as gospel] . . . . In 2010, a young man named Khaled Said was beaten to death by two police officers after being dragged out of a cybercafé in in Alexandria. [–> notice, police in a state that was oligarchic, not democratic] Photographs of his disfigured body were shared online. Wael Ghoneim, an Egyptian Google Executive living in Dubai—who would go on to become a prominent Arab Spring youth activist—created a Facebook group called “We Are All Khaled Said,” [–> powerful, connected person] which quickly drew membership in the hundreds of thousands. [–> web amplification, note, plausibility of key narrative does not pivot on substantial truth or fairness, just it appeals to popular feeling and tendencies] . . . . The Facebook page and other social media sites became public forums for the remembrance of Said and for discourse around what he died for. These issues became fundamental to the outbreak of protests in the coming year . . . Small-scale, local demonstrations took place protesting Said’s death, but it was on Ghoneim’s Facebook page that the announcement for the January 25 protests—held on January 25, National Police Day—was first publicized . . . .

Chanting “The People Want to Bring Down Regime” (al-shaab yurid isqat al-nizam), a broad spectrum of protestors, from labor and youth activists to feminists and individual members of the Muslim Brotherhood (there without sanction from the organization), sought political change in the wake of decades of corruption, police brutality, media censorship, unemployment, inflation, and other problems. [–> notice the coalition taking to the streets] The protest took various forms, from the occupation of downtown Cairo’s Tahrir Square [–> notice, the mass rape of an American journalist here] , to labor strikes, acts of civil disobedience, clashes with armed forces, and others. Violence between protestors and the police resulted in 846 deaths and several thousand injuries.

President Hosni Mubarak—in office since 1981—was deposed on February 11, 2011, [–> 4GW overthrow] after which the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) dissolved the Egyptian Parliament, suspended the constitution, and dissolved the nation’s “emergency laws.” Protestor deaths formed the basis of allegations against Mubarak, for which he was sentenced to life in prison in June, 2012, but was released in August 2013 under the post-coup military government.

The pattern is real.

It can be legitimate, it can be partly legitimate, it can be a dirty 4GW coup. Where of course there is no legitimate parallel between Mr Trump (despite his foibles, failings and abrasiveness) and Mr Mubarak, much less Hitler. Shouting Nazi and Fascism to smear simply tells us something is wrong with those resorting to such dirty namecalling.

Discernment and soundness are clearly needed and a key to that is to identify the values, agenda and connexions of spokesmen, organisers and backers. That does run the risk of ad hominem attacks and marginalising legitimate protest but we must realise that we are talking here about who holds the most powerful and dangerous job in the land: executive leadership of the state.

It will help to ponder a revision to the usual political spectrum:

. . . taking due note of Hitler’s own words:

. . . where the dynamics can be drawn out:

U/d b for clarity, nb Nil

Here, we can see that the revised spectrum is a diagonal that takes in most state circumstances: autocracy > raw oligarchy > lawful oligarchy > constitutional democracy > libertarianism > state of nature/ anarchic chaos.

The last is so repulsive that it triggers a recoil to law and order, even at expense of subjugation. (And hence the tactic of stirring mob chaos and riot to destabilise an existing regime deemed too weakened to resist.)

Autocracy is forever one heart attack away from being overthrown or falling. Where, too, no one person can carry the burden of a state, as we may see from a famous incident in the Exodus:

Exodus 18:13 . . . Moses sat to judge the people, and the people stood around Moses from morning till evening. 14 When Moses’ father-in-law [Jethro] saw all that he was doing for the people, he said, “What is this that you are doing for the people? Why do you sit alone, and all the people stand around you from morning till evening?”

15 And Moses said to his father-in-law, “Because the people come to me to inquire of God; 16 when they have a dispute, they come to me and I decide between one person and another, and I make them know the statutes of God and his laws.”

17 Moses’ father-in-law said to him, “What you are doing is not good. 18 You and the people with you will certainly wear yourselves out, for the thing is too heavy for you. You are not able to do it alone. 19 Now obey my voice; I will give you advice, and God be with you! You shall represent the people before God and bring their cases to God, 20 and you shall warn them about the statutes and the laws, and make them know the way in which they must walk and what they must do. 21 Moreover, look for able men from all the people, men who fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bribe, and place such men over the people as chiefs of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens. 22 And let them judge the people at all times. Every great matter they shall bring to you, but any small matter they shall decide themselves. So it will be easier for you, and they will bear the burden with you. 23 If you do this, God will direct you, you will be able to endure, and all this people also will go to their place in peace.”

This is of course a population of escaped slaves, in a revolutionary situation. It didn’t take long for the need to judge court cases to emerge. Thousands of years later, Bolshevik Revolution trains spreading across Russia would not only bring a printing press but would also be a roving court to resolve village disputes, showing just how important what Moses was trying to do is. Lawful courts and policing or ruthless feuds. That’s part of why we know the anti-police, anti-court, anti-constitutional democracy agendas being pushed . . . why do you think icons and monuments have been persistently targetted? . . . are so misanthropic, so lawless, so anti-civilisational, so utterly irresponsible.

Moses fell into the trap of trying to do it all, and was gently corrected, in a way that raises all the issues of delegation and promotion. And we see how naturally autocracy is pulled into oligarchic leadership, with the debate being controlling principles of justice and having judicious rulers.

The default, natural state of governance, then, is oligarchy; with the strong tendency being towards lawless, domineering oligarchy.

To move beyond that first requires commitment to justice and to a framework of just rules, bylaws or laws. Hence, the hope for a lawful state. For most of history, that is the best we could hope for; if we fall back into ideological oligarchy and domination by would be messiahs, we could face this again.

We here see the natural law principle of built-in law pivoting on moral government with justice as pivot:

This, of course brings to the fore the first duties of responsible reason:

We can readily identify at least seven inescapable first duties of reason. Inescapable, as they are so antecedent to reasoning that even the objector implicitly appeals to them; i.e. they are self-evident. Duties, to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice etc. Such built in law is not invented by parliaments or courts, nor can these principles and duties be abolished by such. (Cf. Cicero in De Legibus, c. 50 BC.) Indeed, it is on this framework that we can set out to soundly understand and duly balance rights, freedoms and duties; which is justice. The legitimate main task of government, then, is to uphold and defend the civil peace of justice through sound community order reflecting the built in, intelligible law of our nature. Where, as my right implies your duty a true right is a binding moral claim to be respected in life, liberty, honestly aquired property, innocent reputation etc. To so justly claim a right, one must therefore demonstrably be in the right. Thus, too, we may compose sound civil law informed by that built-in law of our responsibly, rationally free morally governed nature; from such, we may identify what is unsound or false thus to be reformed or replaced even though enacted under the colour and solemn ceremonies of law. These duties, also, are a framework for understanding and articulating the corpus of built-in law of our morally governed nature, antecedent to civil laws and manifesting our roots in the Supreme Law-giver, the inherently good, utterly wise and just creator-God.

Aquinas brought the issue to focus:

Our problem as a civilisation is that we have been in a long-term rebellion against the idea that God is the pivot of moral government and justice. Often, this is turned into debates over theocratic tyranny and the threat of Christofascist suppression of real or imagined rights.

The answer to such is to rebalance and refocus in light of inescapable first principles. Or else, we will fall victim to crooked yardsticks:

In the present chaos, that may begin to help us navigate soundly. It is clearly too late to avert serious damage to the geostrategic pivot state of our civilisation, now already in rising kinetic component 4th Generation Warfare culture revolution civil conflict with red guards in the streets. (Which carries us full circle to the smoking gun U-Haul a riot case we began with.)

Let us bear in mind geostrategic issues:

Let us so what we can to minimise the damage. END

PS: Proof of concept on fraudulent manipulation of mail in voting, here exposed Sept 2020:

PPS: Exposing an agit-prop pattern coming from enablers of the ongoing McFaul playbook push. Whatever else we may critique about a brawl of a debate, whatever we may think of the NY Contractor manner of Mr Trump, we must carefully notice this too i/l/o the already exposed pattern from above and other signs . . . blatant or subtle, as it tells us all too much about where things really are and the gap that is being commonly promoted between perceptions/feelings and operational 4GW insurgency reality:

Notice, the actual record on Charlottesville regarding “fine people”:

Also note: Mr Trump’s Press Secretary further responds at the WH Press Briefing following. (In his own voice, here.) There seems to be a longstanding media narrative vs manifest truth problem here.

Late breaking: a clearly black representative of The Proud Boys explicitly denies and denounces white supremacism, indicating active steps are taken to exclude such.

Such is so bad that we need a reminder on rebalancing spin:

PPPS: Insurgency escalator for radical revolution:

15 Replies to “U-Haul a riot (where, lawless oligarchy is the “natural” state order)

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    kairosfocus says:

    U-Haul a riot (where, lawless oligarchy is the “natural” state order)

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: Numbers 16 shows the challenge to Moses by Korah and the “men of renown”:

    1 Now Korah the son of Izhar, son of Kohath, son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram the sons of Eliab, and On the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men. 2 And they rose up before Moses, with a number of the people of Israel, 250 chiefs of the congregation, chosen from the assembly, well-known men. 3 They assembled themselves together against Moses and against Aaron and said to them, “You have gone too far! For all in the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the LORD? . . .

    Here, we have a protest that Moses was setting up as dictator, coming from established social leadership; the aristocrats of the Israelite community (or a good slice of them at any rate). appeal was made to a very democratic sentiment: exalting himself above the assembly of all.

    Of course, in the text the resolution was by spiritual trial, but the political dynamics are familiar. Emergent leadership challenges established, who appeal to the people (who hold them in renown).

    The lesson is the same as in Ac 27 and for that matter, Plato’s Ship of State: mere majority and celebrity are not decisive on soundness.

    KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N2: As further backdrop, Plato’s Socrates and the Ship of State:

    It is not too hard to figure out that our civilisation is in deep trouble and is most likely headed for shipwreck. (And of course, that sort of concern is dismissed as “apocalyptic,” or neurotic pessimism that refuses to pause and smell the roses.) [–> this is a clip from years back. The storm is now here, per Ac 27 or even fans of Q.]

    Plato’s Socrates spoke to this sort of situation, long since, in the ship of state parable in The Republic, Bk VI:

    >>[Soc.] I perceive, I said, that you are vastly amused at having plunged me into such a hopeless discussion; but now hear the parable, and then you will be still more amused at the meagreness of my imagination: for the manner in which the best men are treated in their own States is so grievous that no single thing on earth is comparable to it; and therefore, if I am to plead their cause, I must have recourse to fiction, and put together a figure made up of many things, like the fabulous unions of goats and stags which are found in pictures.

    Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain [–> often interpreted, ship’s owner] who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. [= The people own the community and in the mass are overwhelmingly strong, but are ill equipped on the whole to guide, guard and lead it]

    The sailors are quarrelling with one another about the steering – every one is of opinion that he has a right to steer [= selfish ambition to rule and dominate], though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them [–> kubernetes, steersman, from which both cybernetics and government come in English]; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard [ = ruthless contest for domination of the community], and having first chained up the noble captain’s senses with drink or some narcotic drug [ = manipulation and befuddlement, cf. the parable of the cave], they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them [–> Cf here Luke’s subtle case study in Ac 27].

    Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain’s hands into their own whether by force or persuasion [–> Nihilistic will to power on the premise of might and manipulation making ‘right’ ‘truth’ ‘justice’ ‘rights’ etc], they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steerer, whether other people like or not-the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer’s art has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling.

    Now in vessels which are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing?

    [Ad.] Of course, said Adeimantus.

    [Soc.] Then you will hardly need, I said, to hear the interpretation of the figure, which describes the true philosopher in his relation to the State [ –> here we see Plato’s philosoppher-king emerging]; for you understand already.

    [Ad.] Certainly.

    [Soc.] Then suppose you now take this parable to the gentleman who is surprised at finding that philosophers have no honour in their cities; explain it to him and try to convince him that their having honour would be far more extraordinary.

    [Ad.] I will.

    [Soc.] Say to him, that, in deeming the best votaries of philosophy to be useless to the rest of the world, he is right; but also tell him to attribute their uselessness to the fault of those who will not use them, and not to themselves. The pilot should not humbly beg the sailors to be commanded by him –that is not the order of nature; neither are ‘the wise to go to the doors of the rich’ –the ingenious author of this saying told a lie –but the truth is, that, when a man is ill, whether he be rich or poor, to the physician he must go, and he who wants to be governed, to him who is able to govern. [–> the issue of competence and character as qualifications to rule] The ruler who is good for anything ought not to beg his subjects to be ruled by him [ –> down this road lies the modern solution: a sound, well informed people will seek sound leaders, who will not need to manipulate or bribe or worse, and such a ruler will in turn be checked by the soundness of the people, cf. US DoI, 1776]; although the present governors of mankind are of a different stamp; they may be justly compared to the mutinous sailors, and the true helmsmen to those who are called by them good-for-nothings and star-gazers.

    [Ad.] Precisely so, he said.

    [Soc] For these reasons, and among men like these, philosophy, the noblest pursuit of all, is not likely to be much esteemed by those of the opposite faction [–> the sophists, the Demagogues, Alcibiades and co, etc]; not that the greatest and most lasting injury is done to her by her opponents, but by her own professing followers, the same of whom you suppose the accuser to say, that the greater number of them are arrant rogues, and the best are useless; in which opinion I agreed [–> even among the students of the sound state (here, political philosophy and likely history etc.), many are of unsound motivation and intent, so mere education is not enough, character transformation is critical].

    [Ad.] Yes.

    [Soc.] And the reason why the good are useless has now been explained?

    [Ad.] True.

    [Soc.] Then shall we proceed to show that the corruption of the majority is also unavoidable [–> implies a need for a corruption-restraining minority providing proverbial salt and light, cf. Ac 27, as well as justifying a governing structure turning on separation of powers, checks and balances], and that this is not to be laid to the charge of philosophy any more than the other?

    [Ad.] By all means.

    [Soc.] And let us ask and answer in turn, first going back to the description of the gentle and noble nature.[ — > note the character issue] Truth, as you will remember, was his leader, whom he followed always and in all things [ –> The spirit of truth as a marker]; failing in this, he was an impostor, and had no part or lot in true philosophy [–> the spirit of truth is a marker, for good or ill] . . . >>

    (There is more than an echo of this in Acts 27, a real world case study. [Luke, a physician, was an educated Greek with a taste for subtle references.] This blog post, on soundness in policy, will also help)

    We need historical depth as an anchor . . . oops, there goes that ship game again. Look, even Government is the Steersman/Sailing Master, the Kubernetes, washed through Latin and tangle-tongued Londoners.

    KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    Acts 27:

    Acts 27

    Paul Sails for Rome [–> having had to appeal from the Sanhedrin to Nero to get just judgement, itself a shameful indictment]

    1 And when it was decided that we should sail for Italy, they delivered Paul and some other prisoners to a centurion of the Augustan Cohort named Julius. 2 And embarking in a ship of Adramyttium, which was about to sail to the ports along the coast of Asia, we put to sea, accompanied by Aristarchus, a Macedonian from Thessalonica. 3 The next day we put in at Sidon. And Julius treated Paul kindly and gave him leave to go to his friends and be cared for.

    4 And putting out to sea from there we sailed under the lee of Cyprus, because the winds were against us. 5 And when we had sailed across the open sea along the coast of Cilicia and Pamphylia, we came to Myra in Lycia. 6 There the centurion found a ship of Alexandria sailing for Italy and put us on board.

    7 We sailed slowly for a number of days and arrived with difficulty off Cnidus, and as the wind did not allow us to go farther, we sailed under the lee of Crete off Salmone. 8 Coasting along it with difficulty, we came to a place called Fair Havens, near which was the city of Lasea.

    9 Since much time had passed, and the voyage was now dangerous because even the Fast1 was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Sirs, I perceive that the voyage will be with injury and much loss, not only of the cargo and the ship, but also of our lives.” 11 But the centurion paid more attention to the pilot and to the owner of the ship than to what Paul said. 12 And because the harbor was not suitable to spend the winter in, the majority decided to put out to sea from there, on the chance that somehow they could reach Phoenix, a harbor of Crete, facing both southwest and northwest, and spend the winter there. [–> Mr Moneybags the Merchant-Owner, his bought and paid for Sailing Master and the manipulated majority ignoring sound signs]
    The Storm at Sea
    13 Now when the south wind blew gently, supposing that they had obtained their purpose, they weighed anchor and sailed along Crete, close to the shore. [–> 40 miles a good afternoon’s sail]

    DE STORM

    14 But soon a tempestuous wind, called the northeaster [–> an early winter storm], struck down from the land. 15 And when the ship was caught and could not face the wind, we gave way to it and were driven along. 16 Running under the lee of a small island called Cauda,2 we managed with difficulty to secure the ship’s boat. 17 After hoisting it up, they used supports to undergird the ship. Then, fearing that they would run aground on the Syrtis, they lowered the gear,3 and thus they were driven along. 18 Since we were violently storm-tossed, they began the next day to jettison the cargo. 19 And on the third day they threw the ship’s tackle overboard with their own hands.

    20 When neither sun nor stars appeared for many days, and no small tempest lay on us, all hope of our being saved was at last abandoned.

    21 Since they had been without food for a long time, Paul stood up among them and said, “Men, you should have listened to me and not have set sail from Crete and incurred this injury and loss. 22 Yet now I urge you to take heart, for there will be no loss of life among you, but only of the ship. 23 For this very night there stood before me an angel of the God to whom I belong and whom I worship, 24 and he said, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must stand before Caesar. And behold, God has granted you all those who sail with you.’ 25 So take heart, men, for I have faith in God that it will be exactly as I have been told. 26 But we must run aground on some island.”

    27 When the fourteenth night had come, as we were being driven across the Adriatic Sea [–> then including central Med S of Italy more or less], about midnight the sailors suspected that they were nearing land. [–> Breakers at Point Koura are suspected, or it could be changes in motion as water gets shallower] 28 So they took a sounding and found twenty fathoms.4 [120 ft] A little farther on they took a sounding again and found fifteen fathoms.5 [90 ft, consistent with what is now St Paul’s Bay from E] 29 And fearing that we might run on the rocks, they let down four anchors from the stern and prayed for day to come.

    30 And as the sailors were seeking to escape from the ship, and had lowered the ship’s boat into the sea under pretense of laying out anchors from the bow [–> C1 golden parachute games], 31 Paul said to the centurion and the soldiers, “Unless these men stay in the ship, you cannot be saved.” 32 Then the soldiers cut away the ropes of the ship’s boat and let it go.

    33 As day was about to dawn, Paul urged them all to take some food, saying, “Today is the fourteenth day that you have continued in suspense and without food, having taken nothing. 34 Therefore I urge you to take some food. For it will give you strength,6 for not a hair is to perish from the head of any of you.” 35 And when he had said these things, he took bread, and giving thanks to God in the presence of all he broke it and began to eat. 36 Then they all were encouraged and ate some food themselves. 37 (We were in all 2767 persons in the ship.) 38 And when they had eaten enough, they lightened the ship, throwing out the wheat into the sea.

    The Shipwreck
    39 Now when it was day, they did not recognize the land, but they noticed a bay with a beach, on which they planned if possible to run the ship ashore. 40 So they cast off the anchors and left them in the sea, at the same time loosening the ropes that tied the rudders. Then hoisting the foresail to the wind they made for the beach. 41 But striking a reef,8 they ran the vessel aground. The bow stuck and remained immovable, and the stern was being broken up by the surf. 42 The soldiers’ plan was to kill the prisoners, lest any should swim away and escape. 43 But the centurion, wishing to save Paul, kept them from carrying out their plan. He ordered those who could swim to jump overboard first and make for the land, 44 and the rest on planks or on pieces of the ship. And so it was that all were brought safely to land.

    A sobering lesson regarding the perils of government when people do not act with prudence.

    KF

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    Seversky says:

    Does this mean that U-Haul is now the logistics arm of the Alinsky School Community Organizers organized by the Critical X-Theory special forces unit to supply the Marxist Red Guards Brigades infantry units in the field? Would that make Delta part of the Red Guards Brigades Air Force if they are found to be flying in anti-Trump reinforcements? And I suppose that any pleasure boats owned by the protesters could be pressed into service form the nucleus of a Red Guards Brigades Navy.

    Has it occurred to you that popular uprisings, such as the one in Egypt that you cite, would probably not happen unless there was widespread popular resentment over unaddressed grievances concerning inequitable treatment and corruption in legislatures, administrations and law enforcement?

    If a people find that the institutions of government are no longer responsive to their needs where else are they to turn?

    I know you remember 1776

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Are you saying you would have sided with the British government of the day when faced with imminent revolt amongst the colonists?

    A sobering lesson regarding the perils of government when people do not act with prudence.

    A sobering lesson regarding the perils of a government that does not act prudently to address the legitimate grievances of the governed.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Seversky, no more than was Ryder the willing partner of the demented ex soldier who packed a Ryder truck with was it 4,000 lb of ANFO in an attempt to bring down a building in Oklahoma City 25 years ago. And there are other cases of radicals acting on Lenin’s principle that capitalists would vie to sell him the rope he intended to use to hang them all . . . an onward intent he would conceal and they would fail to discern by being distracted by hope of profit from the business transaction. That, is a measure of where the art of denial is today. I will pick up further later. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    Seversky:

    >> ______ >>

    0: This stands for what you rhetorically skipped over ever so adroitly on the way to set up and knock over a strawman (that seemed to be in ignorance of Lenin’s principle of buying from you the rope he intends to hang you with).

    1: Here we have a case of the “strategic corporal.” Actually, a field officer, maybe comparable to a Captain. Failed to use deniable cut-outs, so transaction records etc allowed connecting the red guard cannon fodder, anti-civilisational agenda, ecology of the usual astroturfing front groups used by Marxist subversives, and onward financers and backers. (Do you remember what happened when the media pounced on a group of abusive NCO’s at Abu Ghraib Prison, this is much more telling as it involves field officers and offices of front groups.)

    2: Messaging is key, not the deniable “defund” but outright ABOLISH lawful police, border security/immigration and courts, directly tied to BLM and ANTIFA. In a context of rent a riot, further contextualised by six months of a slanderous false narrative of racially driven murder by police. Where, in fact the implication is that police are only to be targets with open season. Notice how you skipped the question as to what police should do when fired on (with an officer hit)?

    3: This fits in with a pattern of Soros-sponsored DA’s and others over-charging people trying to defend themselves in the face of violent, riotous mob. A week ago, a Marine Veteran who shot someone choking him from behind after warning shots failed, who was at first set free on obvious self-defence; on mob demand was accused, lost business, had online funding cut off then was being extradited to face a kangaroo court, suicided. The response, dismissal of a racist white supremacist and x-phobe on fashionable perversities. There is a name for that given that PTSD is a known, common phenomenon with veterans, hounding to death. For shame.

    4: That’s an open season message further reinforced by other cases including the team assassination case you have tried to dismiss.

    5: Abolition messaging in that context is a terrible sign. The obvious question is, intent to replace lawful institutions with ideological lawless oligarchy: committees for defence of the cultural revolution, volks courts, secret state police, etc. The abolition messaging was coming out of the back of a traceable truck, where vid evidence places the field officer who rented the truck in the back. The dots are connected.

    6: Having already laid down the Lenin’s rope principle, I need not comment further on Delta etc. The red guards, their officers, field support operatives etc will buy the rope they intend to hang us with, confident that we cannot see beyond the profit on the transaction.

    >>popular uprisings, such as the one in Egypt that you cite, would probably not happen unless there was widespread popular resentment over unaddressed grievances concerning inequitable treatment and corruption in legislatures, administrations and law enforcement?>>

    7: Has it occurred to you that there is utterly no comparison between Mubarak’s regime and Mr Trump? That you infer such a comparison– even after the difference was highlighted — indicts you as an enabler.

    8: I am very aware that in any society there will be pain, loss, failure, generational poverty etc, all of which are part of why — warts and all — there is a general consensus behind welfare state social safety nets, starting with taxpayer funded education. The debates are over what is a best balance.

    9: What is never excusable in a law abiding state is riot, and the infamous Nika Riots under Justinian show how riots can be fanned and used to topple even what turned out to be good leadership — think Corpus Juris Civilis etc. In that context, the McFaul list can easily be fanned into supporting radical uprisings that ever since 1789 have had a uniformly ruinous track record of reigns of terror, oligarchic tyranny, economic and social ruin etc. Even when they fail they leave a lot of damage that in the case of my homeland has left the very marginalised far worse off than they would otherwise have been.

    10: Let me elaborate, a certain former official did a comparison with a 1/10 scale Caribbean territory which did not have mineral wealth. Policy tracked across the 70’s once one left off the ruinous socialist queen’s moves. Given factors, my homeland should have continued its ~ 6% pa growth track or better for a few more decades as it had had since the early 50’s. Singapore is a similar comparison, and is 1/2 way around the world from the US market. Instead, homeland, net, went flat across 20+ years as its population continued to grow. TWO DOUBLINGS OF GDP WERE NEEDLESSLY LOST TO ATTEMPTED RADICAL REVOLUTION.

    11: A lot of welfare support, capacity building and positive transformation could have been paid for out of that growth and onward trajectory. Instead, basket case. Those are the sorts of matches you are heedlessly playing with.

    >>If a people find that the institutions of government are no longer responsive to their needs where else are they to turn?>>

    12: This is an agit prop lie. One that comes after coming on seventy years of specific policy level response to racial inequities that culminated in a two-term reasonably popular black President, where one of my distant cousins was a serious potential candidate for the other Party. (I would have preferred to have him as Prime Minister, but . . . ) It is also after ninety years nearly, of shift to a welfare state model in response to the post WW1 Depression.

    >>Are you saying you would have sided with the British government of the day when faced with imminent revolt amongst the colonists?>>

    14: The cases, again — and utterly unsurprisingly — are not comparable. The issue was Parliamentary takeover and implied termination of Colonial Charters, leading to issues of tyrannical subjugation. Again, note the response to the agit prop deceitful narrative as was just outlined.

    >>A sobering lesson regarding the perils of a government that does not act prudently to address the legitimate grievances of the governed.>>

    15: You obviously failed to connect the dots. There was an election/vote. Paul lost, even though he advocated responsible common sense. Why?

    16: The answer lies in the merchant-owner and his bought and paid for technico, the sailing master. 40 miles is an afternoon’s sail, things are hard in Lasea, Phoenix is so much better. It’s not a real danger, we are the egg-spurts. The manipulated people voted with the narrative and paid an awful price. Absent God’s grace, it could have been far worse.

    17: Compare Plato’s Socrates on the Ship of State. His Merchant Owner is the people, who are lacking in technical capability and discernment. Befuddlement is brought in as mutineers want to get the helm and the keys to the stores, forming a manipulated looter state on a voyage of ruinous folly, with that useless stargazer dismissed.

    18: Luke — an educated Greek, a physician — is of course fully aware of the classical reference, but is in the face of reality and was doubtless aware of the Ac 19 rent a riot. He subtly implies rent an egg-spurt and money talks.

    19: Your attempted twisting fails, and in failing inadvertently highlights what is likely to be going on through much the same forces.

    20: Looter state marches of folly are predictably ruinous. And that is clearly what is beginning to happen with the US.

    KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: It looks like The Bail Project (where the Truck renter-driver worked) has an interesting focus: “advance racial equity, with a focus on criminal justice and policing reform.” What context of “reform”? Well, TBP says, “paying bail for those in jail is an ‘act of resistance against a system that criminalizes race and poverty’ . . . ” which is a slanderous accusation against law and law enforcement that provides dubious rationale for demanding to “abolish” same. Such also readily explains the open season, no limits mentality. The backdrop is obvious, Critical X-Theories and underlying culture form, Frankfurt School marxism. In this context, on a phone call we hear a response to the Abolish the Pol(ice) message, she says: “What does it matter what I posted on a sign?” That’s direct self-identification as creator of the relevant sign, within a loaded context. It also tells us much about the misanthropic, anti-civilisational cultural revolution agenda at work. The alternative to lawful police, border control and courts is ideology driven committees for defence of the revolution led by “area leaders” [= dons], volks courts and state secret police. Something is very wrong. KF

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    Truthfreedom says:

    3 Kairosfocus

    Not that the greatest and most lasting injury is done to her by her opponents, but by her own professing followers, the same of whom you suppose the accuser to say, that the greater number of them are arrant rogues, and the best are useless;

    Socrates was certainly referring to philosophical materialists/ naturalists/ darwinists.
    People who have had the luxury of receiving an education that they have trashed and who have polluted the world with their obviously false philosophy. People so astonishingly stupid that they say they:
    – are monkeys
    – “bags of chemicals”
    automatons
    – “hallucinations”
    – amoral but with morals
    And that:
    – matter (whose definition changes every 10-15 years or so) “creates itself”
    – and that “matter” can create “immateriality” (???)
    So yes, you can live in an affluent country and be a useless, stupid creature drowning in superstition. Very sad indeed.

    Materialism’s Failures: Hylemorphism’s Vindication. (Aristotle is back).

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    kairosfocus says:

    TF, you have a sobering point. KF

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    AndyClue says:

    Why are you refusing to name the person who rented the U-Haul truck?

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    kairosfocus says:

    AC, it is enough to show that I readily can do so; the blue blocks cover name and I think a now dead email account. There is no need to doxx, and I will not post pics of her house. The name is not crucial though she seems to have been at Charlottesville too, she is a “strategic corporal” who has given us a window into the network. The key thing is we are looking at a McFaul Colour Revolution attempt, and need to connect dots. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    Linked, proof of concept on some possibilities for fakery with mail in voting identified in MN, USA. PS to OP. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: PPS on exposing turnabout projection gaslighting to misdirect attention from the dirty form McFaul playbook tactics. KF

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