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Bird brains and ID definition of intelligence?

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I (your regular News writer, O’Leary) am enjoying a week off to write something else, but noted that some commenters at How clever is that cockatoo? (and elsewhere?) wanted an ID definition of intelligence.

Here is the conventional definition with which I am familiar, and I think most ID theorists would accept it:

The Latin verb “intellego” (inter + lego) means “I choose between.” Intelligence, so defined, means the ability to choose one solution to a problem where other, less productive, ones are available.

An intelligent dog, observing humans raising the latch on a grooming shop cage’s door, may realize that he could raise the latch on his cage himself, using his jaw or paw. (I have seen a dog figure this out, unassisted.) A less intelligent dog would choose a less successful strategy—perhaps, just whine and bark for a human to come and do it (in a situation where no human has any intention of doing it until the groomer is ready for the dog). 😉

Choosing the correct solution is the way intelligence creates information. The more intelligent dog now has information about how to free himself from the cage. The less intelligent dog does not.

A human can frustrate even an intelligent dog’s escape efforts by transferring him to a different cage, perhaps one where 1) he cannot see exactly what the human is doing; or 2) fingers are needed to work the mechanism; or 3) a punched-in numerical code opens the door.

What the humans have done in this case is moved the search space for solutions beyond the physical and/or mental capacities of the dog.

Animals differ both individually and by species in intelligence in this sense. There does not appear to be a strict hierarchy of intelligence. Birds species, in particular, seem to vary widely in their ability to choose a successful strategy from alternatives, as opposed to simply following some sort of imprint, for good or ill.

Note that “intelligence” in this sense is quite distinct from “wisdom” or “insight” or other similar qualities.

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RD
I don’t understand – are you saying that some “intelligent agents” have free will and some don’t?
I would argue that animals do not have libertarian free will on the grounds that they cannot weigh moral options or make moral choices. Simply being a design agent (capable of manipulating nature to serve some end) is not enough to qualify for libertarian free will. Moral sensibilities are also required.StephenB
July 7, 2013
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“Intelligence” is that which can manipulate nature/ the environment for its own purpose
So when a river carves a path to the sea for the purpose of carrying water there, it is acting intelligently? And when evolutionary processes alter the genomes of populations of organisms in order to adapt them to their environments, that is also an instance of intelligence at work?RDFish
July 7, 2013
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I have a correction to my comment- #1 "Intelligence" is that which can manipulate nature/ the environment for its own purposeJoe
July 7, 2013
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Hi StephenB,
I think there is a sense in which this can be true of most agents, but it does not really apply to animals for two reasons: [a] they do not have a moral life and cannot, therefore make moral choices and [b] they cannot really weigh strategic options before making intellectual choices.
But dolphins, wolves, and other animals communicate, coordinate, and strategize when they hunt. Don't you watch Animal Planet? It's fascinating!
Nevertheless, animals are agents of design.
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
So your theme, while not unreasonable, cannot be consistently applied to all design agents. It is, therefore, not a necessary component of ID.
I don't understand - are you saying that some "intelligent agents" have free will and some don't? Cheers, RDFishRDFish
July 7, 2013
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RDF:
Most people think of a “choice” as a “free choice” in the metaphysical sense of libertarianism. Otherwise, we could say that all sorts of mindless things made choices, as when a river chooses a path to the sea in order to carry water there. Surely that is not what ID means by “choice”, so once again we see ID equating intelligence with metaphysical libertarianism.
I think there is a sense in which this can be true of most agents, but it does not really apply to animals for two reasons: [a] they do not have a moral life and cannot, therefore make moral choices and [b] they cannot really weigh strategic options before making intellectual choices. Nevertheless, animals are agents of design. So your theme, while not unreasonable, cannot be consistently applied to all design agents. It is, therefore, not a necessary component of ID.StephenB
July 6, 2013
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Yes, I think this may be a good definition---which makes me wonder if perhaps intelligence is also separable from consciousness and free will. Might we be able to program a robot with "the ability to choose one solution to a problem where other, less productive, ones are available"? Such as, say, a chess playing robot? And so intelligence, as you say, is not only quite distinct from "wisdom" or "insight" or other similar qualities---neither is it identical to consciousness and free will. And so when we speak of intelligent design we probably most often also assume more than a robotic intelligence. Except---considering our Big Tent---might there be some who think it is "mechanism all the way down"? Maybe Michael Denton would be such. And if so then this is a proper definition for ID. But bioethicists, busy in their brave new world, generally define "person" in terms of intelligence---presumably because that's how they defines themselves. Maybe this is because all they admit to is a robotic intelligence even as they deny we are conscious and have free will.Rude
July 6, 2013
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I like the idea its about choice . It also means the being making the choice is a being aware of themselves. Intelligence after all is all about the special case of life with a personality. A living being. Plants are not a living being and make no choices. A living being makes choices. Then we score it compared to man or God.Robert Byers
July 6, 2013
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Yes, Denyse, often ID proponents define "intelligence" as "choice". Most people think of a "choice" as a "free choice" in the metaphysical sense of libertarianism. Otherwise, we could say that all sorts of mindless things made choices, as when a river chooses a path to the sea in order to carry water there. Surely that is not what ID means by "choice", so once again we see ID equating intelligence with metaphysical libertarianism. As I said previously:
Dembski’s most usual definitions for “intelligence” are functional, including “the complement of fixed law and chance” and “the power and facility to choose between options”. So intelligent entities, in Dembski’s view, are defined by their power to make choices that are not determined by antecedent events. What Dembski does not mention (although he is surely aware of it) is that what he is defining as “intelligence” is another way of describing libertarian free will, and in my experience discussing ID with its proponents on the internet, this is indeed an important part of what most people mean when they talk about intelligence. I believe the concept of metaphysical libertarianism to be incoherent, but in any case it clearly cannot be mistaken for settled science. But ID authors (including Dembski and Stephen Meyer) fail to acknowledge that this particular metaphysical position underlies their theory. On the contrary, Dembski and Meyer argue that the “intelligent causation” posited by ID as the cause of biological CSI is something that is known to us by our familiarity with intelligent agents. This is specious. What we know is that human beings design and build complex machinery. We do not know how we do it (because we don’t understand how we think), and we do not know if our thought processes transcend physical causality or not. Thus when Stephen Meyer claims that the causal explanation proposed by ID is known to us “in our uniform and repeated experience of intelligent agency”, he is pulling a fast one.
Thanks, Denyse! RDFishRDFish
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Birds manipulate nature for their own purpose. Termites do to. Bees, wasps, beavers- yup all manipulate nature for their own purpose.Joe
July 6, 2013
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Sure, dogs manipulate nature for their own purpose. They manipulate us, too, although cats appear to be much better at that.Joe
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Isn't the smart dog an agency?News
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Dembski uses it to define an agency, ie one who can manipulate nature for its own purpose.Joe
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