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FYI-FTR: The Grayling- Rowe debate on the existence of God

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(This is supplementary to the discussion thread here started by HeKS, as he only linked the debate. Onward discussion is invited there in the thread.) END

jerry A comment from 17 years ago I hope this will erase the complacency on this web site that ID is... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Origenes ~ “external criticism” KF: PM1, you tried to set up a frame that invites an insulation around internalism. PM1: I... – Is the Galton Board evidence for...
Origenes Sandy @74 ~The (strong) emergence concept stems from the extreme reductionist mindset. Chalmers: We can say that a high-level phenomenon... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
kairosfocus PS, by weak form, I here imply that for any A that is/is not/may be/may not be/ is impossible, we... – Is the Galton Board evidence for...
kairosfocus PM1, yes, you did make such claims and continue to do so. However, we both know that a material issue... – Is the Galton Board evidence for...
kairosfocus HN42, excellent question. I find in the Chalmers corpus: We can say that a high-level phenomenon is strongly emergent with... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
kairosfocus PM1, it is precisely because of the slipperiness of "naturalism," that I draw out briefly, the focal form, evolutionary materialistic... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
bornagain77 Seversky at 71 pays lip service to valuing empirical evidence Sev: "You could say it (empirical evidence) has more practical... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
hnorman42 Regarding strong emergence -- Is there any way to test for the difference between strong emergence and not having any... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Querius Whistler @64 and Bornagain77 @69, I've mentioned this before in other posts, but it bears repeating. The earliest example in... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Sandy Origenes Emergentism is the hypothesis that something that cannot be explained from its parts nonetheless follows(?) from its parts and... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
StephenB Origenes: I am asking you to please reconsider your statement. Suppose you walk in the street, can it be said... – Aquinas, Ockham, and Descartes about God....
vividbleau Sev 71 So what? Vivid – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Origenes ~ Eric Anderson on **emergence** It is true that we can use words (like “instinct”) to describe things that are... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
bornagain77 Seversky is upset about a very questionable quote denigrating atheists? The Claim is that George H.W. Bush said this at... – Atheists vs Christians: Who makes the...
relatd Seversky at 70, If those statements about George Bush senior, and others, are true, why didn't atheists go to the... – Atheists vs Christians: Who makes the...
Seversky OhReally/68 Seversky at 66 George Bush on atheists as citizens or patriots – Atheists vs Christians: Who makes the...
Origenes StephenB @167 Ori: The actions of B cannot be a separate entity from B, instead they are an inextricable aspect... – Aquinas, Ockham, and Descartes about God....
Seversky Vividbleau/66 As StephenB would say “Reason informs the evidence not the other way around” Reason without data is vacuous. For... – L&FP, 64: The challenge of self-referentiality...
Origenes WJM@ The simpler version of the “God is sufficient cause, therefore determinative” argument is that when God creates a person,... – Aquinas, Ockham, and Descartes about God....
relatd Seversky at 67, I disapprove of the arrogance of the Woke Mob who believes that they are perfect and are... – Atheists vs Christians: Who makes the...