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At the current rate of retreat the vast glaciers, which extend deep into the heart of the ice sheet, could contribute as much as 3.4 metres to global sea level rise over the next several centuries.

Antarctica is covered by two huge ice masses: the East and West Antarctic Ice Sheets, which feed many individual glaciers. Because of the warming climate, the WAIS has been thinning at accelerated rates over the past few decades. Within the ice sheet, the Thwaites and Pine Island glaciers are particularly vulnerable to global warming and are already contributing to rises in sea level.

Now, a new study led by the University of Maine and the British Antarctic Survey, including academics from Imperial College London, has measured the rate of local sea level change – an indirect way to measure ice loss – around these particularly vulnerable glaciers.

They found that the glaciers have begun retreating at a rate not seen in the last 5,500 years. With areas of 192,000 km2 (nearly the size of the island of Great Britain) and 162,300 km2 respectively, the Thwaites and Pine Island glaciers have the potential to cause large rises in global sea level.

“These currently elevated rates of ice melting may signal that those vital arteries from the heart of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet have been ruptured, leading to accelerating flow into the ocean that is potentially disastrous for future global sea level in a warming world. Is it too late to stop the bleeding?”

During the mid-Holocene period, over 5,000 years ago, the climate was warmer than today and thus sea levels were higher and glaciers smaller. The researchers wanted to study fluctuations in sea level since the mid-Holocene, so studied the remnants of old Antarctic beaches, which are today elevated above modern sea level.

They examined seashells and penguin bones on these beaches using radiocarbon dating – a technique that uses the radioactive decay of carbon locked in the shells and bones as a clock to tell us how long they have sat above sea level.

When heavy glaciers sit on the land, they push down or ‘load’ the Earth’s surface. After the glaciers’ ice melts or ‘unloads’, the land ‘bounces back’ so that what once was a beach is now higher than sea level. This explains why the local sea level for this land fell, while globally the water from the melting ice caused global sea levels to rise.

By pinpointing the precise age of these beaches, they could tell when each beach appeared and therefore reconstruct changes in local, or ‘relative’, sea level over time.

The results showed a steady fall in relative sea level over the last 5,500 years, which the researchers interpret as a result of ice loss just prior to that time. This pattern is consistent with relatively stable glacier behaviour with no evidence of large-scale glacier loss or advance.

The paper is published in Nature Geoscience.

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Andrew- learn how to read.ET
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For those interested, I highly recommend “Fossil Future” by Alex Epstein. It goes into detail all the implications of using/not using fossil fuels. And the actual details of climate change. Though the particular Antarctic ice sheet is not covered. Some here will like it because it is by a philosopher who goes into epistemology and uses a non religious basis for morality. Why a philosopher? Because he uses truth and it’s implications to evaluate the area of climate. This is his second book on the topic and shows how a smart person can evaluate anything. Especially the lies and the techniques used to distort what is really happening. Ring any bells on something else. Essentially he is saying the climate change advocates are selfish and are deniers of the effects of what their recommendations will do especially to the poor.jerry
June 10, 2022
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"The 3.4-meter sea level rise in several centuries." ET, This is the kind of thing you hold to be true? Chicken Littleism for hundreds of years later? What a joke. Andrewasauber
June 10, 2022
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Moreover, Darwinists simply have no clue why man is gifted, above all the other creatures on earth, with a unique ability to ‘master the planet’ simply by infusing 'immaterial' information into material substrates. Leading evolutionary scientists themselves admit as much,
Leading Evolutionary Scientists Admit We Have No Evolutionary Explanation of Human Language – December 19, 2014 Excerpt: Understanding the evolution of language requires evidence regarding origins and processes that led to change. In the last 40 years, there has been an explosion of research on this problem as well as a sense that considerable progress has been made. We argue instead that the richness of ideas is accompanied by a poverty of evidence, with essentially no explanation of how and why our linguistic computations and representations evolved.,,, (Marc Hauser, Charles Yang, Robert Berwick, Ian Tattersall, Michael J. Ryan, Jeffrey Watumull, Noam Chomsky and Richard C. Lewontin, “The mystery of language evolution,” Frontiers in Psychology, Vol 5:401 (May 7, 2014).) Casey Luskin added: “It’s difficult to imagine much stronger words from a more prestigious collection of experts.” http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014/12/leading_evoluti092141.html
Thus basically, the atheistic belief behind the global warming hysteria, (i.e. the belief that man, or more particularly the technologically advanced civilization of man, is ‘unnatural’, even parasitic), is a fearful, fallacious, belief that simply has no real evidential basis in reality. Moreover, the supposed scientific evidence for global warming itself, contrary to what the media constantly tries to claim, is very suspect. In fact, it is no exaggeration to say, "Money Dictates Climate Science"
Top Scientist: UN “Climate Finance” Is Subsidy for Kleptocracy – 26 January 2016 Excerpt: Dr. Singer, an atmospheric and space physicist with unassailable scientific credentials, told The New American in an interview after his speech that climate science was far from settled, and that taxpayer money distributed by governments was buying the cooperation of scientists. He also suggested that human impacts on the climate, if there are any, are likely to be so tiny as to be completely insignificant. “The climate has always been changing — warming and cooling, warming and cooling,” Singer said. “So we assume that this is a continuing process. The fact that we are now fairly well advanced in the industrial revolution — it has no influence on natural forcing, we don’t affect what the sun does, we don’t affect the volcanoes. So the null hypothesis, which means the normal way events go, we would assume that all changes in climate, even today, are due to the same kinds of natural forcing.” The burden of proof, then, is on the alarmists demanding trillions of dollars and vast new controls over humanity under the guise of battling alleged anthropogenic (man-made) global warming (AGW) — not the other way around. “The null hypothesis that has to be disproven or amended is that natural forcings are changing the climate, simply because it’s always been that way and we would assume that it would continue that way,” Singer emphasized. “So the burden of proof definitely has to be on the people who want to control CO2.” Other speakers at the summit emphasized that CO2 is the gas of life, not pollution. https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/22402-top-scientist-un-climate-finance-is-subsidy-for-kleptocracy
Thus in conclusion, contrary to what the far left believes, man is not a 'accidental parasite' on earth, but was intended by God to be here. Moreover, only the Biblical view of creation gives us the proper and correct understanding of our place in nature and, while the Biblical view encourages us to be good stewards of the environment that God has given us,,,,
Gen 1:15 “Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the Garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it”
,,, while the Biblical view encourages us to be good stewards of the environment that God has given us, the Biblical view of our place in nature does not fall victim to the radical environmentalism that threatens to impoverish, and literally starve to death, a very large percentage of humanity.
Poverty is the Answer: Radical Environmentalism Leading Us to a New Form of Human Sacrifice Excerpt: This willingness to sacrifice human welfare is reaching a fever pitch among those who believe that global warming is a crisis of unimagined proportions https://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/poverty-answer-radical-environmentalism-leading-us-new-form-human/
Though environmentalists may want to live in a utopian world where no industry, airplanes, and/or cars exist, I can assure you that if their utopian vision ever became a reality, and they themselves had to personally face the very real consequences of their utopian vision, they would be singing a VERY different tune! The world would be a very different, and a much, much. harder place for man to live without 'intelligently designed' industry to help us along.
Jeremiah 29:11 “’For I know the plans I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future.’” —
bornagain77
June 10, 2022
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Where today’s environmentalists go completely off the rails into ‘environmental radicalism’ is that they, as a primary premise in their arguments, view man, not as the pinnacle of God's creative acts on earth, but instead view man as a accident of nature, even as a parasite on the earth, and also hold industry as being a very 'unnatural' act of man.
‘Ecocentrism’: A Brief History of The Radical Environmental Movement - 2021 In his book ‘The Ecocentrists,’ historian Keith Makoto Woodhouse traces the 1970s radical environmental movement in the U.S. “No compromise in defense of Mother Earth” – The slogan of Earth First! Ecocentrism is a key discourse taken up and developed by the radical environmental movement in the U.S., especially by activists during the 1970s and 1980s. In his 2018 book The Ecocentrists: A History of Radical Environmentalism, environmental historian Keith Makoto Woodhouse traces this fascinating history. He gives the following definition of ‘ecocentrism’ as a starting point: “Ecocentric thought assumed that trees, bears, fish, and grasshoppers should receive as much consideration as humans in decisions large and small about the shape of modern society. An ecocentric outlook granted no more value to people — at least in terms of a basic hierarchy of existence — than it did to plants, animals, and ecosystems…[the ecocentrists] believed, fundamentally, that as modern human society gradually destroyed wild nature it veered toward catastrophe, and that its self-destruction would take much of the planet with it.” Woodhouse writes that “The simplicity of radical environmentalism’s claims made them elegant and inspiring if taken as rallying cries, but dangerous and malevolent if taken as unqualified truth.” In other words, for radical environmentalists, embracing the discourse of ecocentrism often went hand in hand with embracing a discourse of antihumanism: “To reject ecocentrism, radical environmentalists argued, was to embrace anthropocentrism — human-centeredness. Beyond those two positions lay only equivocation.” https://medium.com/thewildones/ecocentrism-a-brief-history-of-radical-environmentalism-in-the-u-s-662330cb24b The root cause of climate catastrophism Excerpt: I believe that the root of today’s environmental catastrophism is a framework of false, anti-human assumptions and values. Catastrophists,,, believe that long-term human survival requires that we human parasites refrain from impacting the delicate, nurturing Earth. If we do that, the Earth will supposedly be a stable, safe, and sufficient place to life. Thus, minimizing our impact on our environment—being “green”—is a proper goal. None of this is true. https://industrialprogress.com/the-root-cause-of-climate-catastrophism/
Yet, these primary presuppositions that environmental radicalists hold are simply not true. When looking at the evidence objectively, we find that the earth gives every indication of being prepared in advance, i.e. ‘terraformed’, for billions of years by God for a technologically advanced civilization to appear. Hugh Ross has done excellent work in this area of research.
Life and Earth History Reveal God’s Miraculous Preparation for Humans – Hugh Ross, PhD – video (2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Y496NYnm8 Anthropic Principle: A Precise Plan for Humanity By Hugh Ross Excerpt: Brandon Carter, the British mathematician who coined the term “anthropic principle” (1974), noted the strange inequity of a universe that spends about 15 billion years “preparing” for the existence of a creature that has the potential to survive no more than 10 million years (optimistically).,, Carter and (later) astrophysicists John Barrow and Frank Tipler demonstrated that the inequality exists for virtually any conceivable intelligent species under any conceivable life-support conditions. Roughly 15 billion years represents a minimum preparation time for advanced life: 11 billion toward formation of a stable planetary system, one with the right chemical and physical conditions for primitive life, and four billion more years toward preparation of a planet within that system, one richly layered with the biodeposits necessary for civilized intelligent life. Even this long time and convergence of “just right” conditions reflect miraculous efficiency. Moreover the physical and biological conditions necessary to support an intelligent civilized species do not last indefinitely. They are subject to continuous change: the Sun continues to brighten, Earth’s rotation period lengthens, Earth’s plate tectonic activity declines, and Earth’s atmospheric composition varies. In just 10 million years or less, Earth will lose its ability to sustain human life. In fact, this estimate of the human habitability time window may be grossly optimistic. In all likelihood, a nearby supernova eruption, a climatic perturbation, a social or environmental upheaval, or the genetic accumulation of negative mutations will doom the species to extinction sometime sooner than twenty thousand years from now. http://christiangodblog.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html
As well, Michael Denton’s work in this area, i.e. “Defending the Anthropocentric Thesis”, also deserves a honorable mention.
The Place of Life and Man in Nature: Defending the Anthropocentric Thesis – Michael J. Denton – February 25, 2013 http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/view/BIO-C.2013.1/BIO-C.2013.1 Privileged Species – video (2015) https://youtu.be/VoI2ms5UHWg A Reasonable, but Incomplete, Account of How Humans Mastered Fire – Michael Denton – August 4, 2016 In short, the discovery of fire, our subsequent mastery of it, and the road it opened up to an advanced technology were only possible because of our inhabiting a world almost exactly like planet earth, complete with atmospheric conditions exactly as they are, along with the properties of carbon and oxygen atoms (and indeed many of the other atoms of the periodic table), and because we possessed a unique anatomical design (including the hand) uniquely fit for fire-making. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/08/a_reasonable_bu103048.html Fire-Maker – Michael Denton – video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an98jVCyApo
bornagain77
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Suppose it is true - so what? How does that serve the Intelligent Design Community? Don’t answer that - I’m not up for a month of definitions and philosophical musing and pondering the Question of Evil; nor the spectre of warnings of famine and ‘environmental refugees’. Let the cobbler stick to his lastBelfast
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The last great ice age, which we are still in, started waning about 11,000 years ago. Great ice ages come and go leaving Earth free of ice when they are gone.BobRyan
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No, Andrew. The 3.4-meter sea level rise in several centuries.ET
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"It’s not alarmist if it’s true." ET, What's true? Some guesstimated rate over 5,500 ago? You cannot be serious, dude. Andrewasauber
June 9, 2022
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It's not alarmist if it's true. And of course, decades or centuries matter. There isn't any alarm over several centuries.ET
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"decades, not several centuries" ET, Decades or centuries... it hardly matters. The headline and story is alarmist. Andrewasauber
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To Andrew and Belfast- climate alarmists have the sea levels rising 3.4 meters in decades, not several centuries.ET
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I’m with you, Andrew.Belfast
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Dirt and soot on glaciers cause them to melt even when the ambient temperature is below freezing. It's part of the albedo effect.ET
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ICESAT Data Shows Mass Gains of the Antarctic Ice Sheet Exceed Losses https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/10/icesat-data-shows-mass-gains-of-the-antarctic-ice-sheet-exceed-losses/ Antarctic Ice Mass — Alternate Sources https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/10/06/antarctic-ice-mass-alternate-sources/ etc.. etc.. https://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=antartic%20gains%20icebornagain77
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The demons seem to be returning to their old fave "climate" emergency. This is annoying but not NEARLY as torturous and holocaustal as the "virus" emergency. If this means no more lockdowns and distancing and muzzles and needles, I'm all for it.polistra
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If UD becomes a Climate Alarmism organ, I'm gone. Andrewasauber
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As soon as I see the wealthy beginning to sell their beachfront property, I remain little concernedrelatd
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