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The key to understanding the origin and fate of the universe may be a more complete understanding of the vacuum.

Charlie Wood writes:

As modern physicists have grappled with more sophisticated candidates for the ultimate theory of nature, they have encountered a growing multitude of types of nothing. Each has its own behavior, as if it’s a different phase of a substance. Increasingly, it seems that the key to understanding the origin and fate of the universe may be a careful accounting of these proliferating varieties of absence.

“We’re learning there’s a lot more to learn about nothing than we thought,” said Isabel Garcia Garcia, a particle physicist at the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics in California. “How much more are we missing?”

So far, such studies have led to a dramatic conclusion: Our universe may sit on a platform of shoddy construction, a “metastable” vacuum that is doomed — in the distant future — to transform into another sort of nothing, destroying everything in the process.

Merrill Sherman/Quanta Magazine

Quantum Nothingness

Nothing started to seem like something in the 20th century, as physicists came to view reality as a collection of fields: objects that fill space with a value at each point (the electric field, for instance, tells you how much force an electron will feel in different places). In classical physics, a field’s value can be zero everywhere so that it has no influence and contains no energy. “Classically, the vacuum is boring,” said Daniel Harlow, a theoretical physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “Nothing is happening.”

But physicists learned that the universe’s fields are quantum, not classical, which means they are inherently uncertain. You’ll never catch a quantum field with exactly zero energy. Harlow likens a quantum field to an array of pendulums — one at each point in space — whose angles represent the field’s values. Each pendulum hangs nearly straight down but jitters back and forth.

Left alone, a quantum field will stay in its minimum-energy configuration, known as its “true vacuum” or “ground state.” (Elementary particles are ripples in these fields.) “When we talk about the vacuum of a system, we have in mind in some loose way the preferred state of the system,” said Garcia Garcia.

Most of the quantum fields that fill our universe have one, and only one, preferred state, in which they’ll remain for eternity. Most, but not all.

True and False Vacuums

 In the 1970s, physicists came to appreciate the significance of a different class of quantum fields whose values prefer not to be zero, even on average. Such a “scalar field” is like a collection of pendulums all hovering at, say, a 10-degree angle. This configuration can be the ground state: The pendulums prefer that angle and are stable.

In 2012, experimentalists at the Large Hadron Collider proved that a scalar field known as the Higgs field permeates the universe. At first, in the hot, early universe, its pendulums pointed down. But as the cosmos cooled, the Higgs field changed state, much as water can freeze into ice, and its pendulums all rose to the same angle. (This nonzero Higgs value is what gives many elementary particles the property known as mass.)

With scalar fields around, the stability of the vacuum is not necessarily absolute. A field’s pendulums might have multiple semi-stable angles and a proclivity for switching from one configuration to another. Theorists aren’t certain whether the Higgs field, for instance, has found its absolute favorite configuration — the true vacuum. Some have argued that the field’s current state, despite having persisted for 13.8 billion years, is only temporarily stable, or “metastable.”

If so, the good times won’t last forever. In the 1980s, the physicists Sidney Coleman and Frank De Luccia described how a false vacuum of a scalar field could “decay.” At any moment, if enough pendulums in some location jitter their way into a more favorable angle, they’ll drag their neighbors to meet them, and a bubble of true vacuum will fly outward at nearly light speed. It will rewrite physics as it goes, busting up the atoms and molecules in its path. (Don’t panic. Even if our vacuum is only metastable, given its staying power so far, it will probably last for billions of years more.)

The discovery that string theory allows nearly countless vacuums jibed with another discovery from nearly two decades earlier.

Cosmologists in the early 1980s developed a hypothesis known as cosmic inflation that has become the leading theory of the universe’s birth. The theory holds that the universe began with a quick burst of exponential expansion, which handily explains the universe’s smoothness and hugeness. But inflation’s successes come at a price.

The researchers found that once cosmic inflation started, it would continue. Most of the vacuum would violently explode outward forever. Only finite regions of space would stop inflating, becoming bubbles of relative stability separated from each other by inflating space in between. Inflationary cosmologists believe we call one of these bubbles home.

A Multiverse of Vacuums

To some, the notion that we live in a multiverse — an endless landscape of vacuum bubbles — is disturbing. It makes the nature of any one vacuum (such as ours) seem random and unpredictable, curbing our ability to understand our universe. Polchinski, who died in 2018told the physicist and author Sabine Hossenfelder that discovering string theory’s landscape of vacuums initially made him so miserable it led him to seek therapy. If string theory predicts every imaginable variety of nothing, has it predicted anything?

To others, the plethora of vacuums is not a problem; “in fact, it’s a virtue,” said Andrei Linde, a prominent cosmologist at Stanford University and one of the developers of cosmic inflation. That’s because the multiverse potentially solves a great mystery: the ultra-low energy of our particular vacuum.

When theorists naïvely estimate the collective jittering of all the universe’s quantum fields, the energy is huge — enough to rapidly accelerate the expansion of space and, in short order, rip the cosmos apart. But the observed acceleration of space is extremely mild in comparison, suggesting that much of the collective jittering cancels out and our vacuum has an extraordinarily low positive value for its energy.

In a solitary universe, the tiny energy of the one and only vacuum looks like a profound puzzle. But in a multiverse, it’s just dumb luck. If different bubbles of space have different energies and expand at different rates, galaxies and planets will form only in the most lethargic bubbles. Our calm vacuum, then, is no more mysterious than the Goldilocks orbit of our planet: We find ourselves here because most everywhere else is inhospitable to life.

Love it or hate it, the multiverse hypothesis as currently understood has a problem. Despite string theory’s seemingly infinite menu of vacuums, so far no one has found a specific folding of tiny extra dimensions that corresponds to a vacuum like ours, with its barely positive energy.

These researchers suspect that our vacuum is not one of reality’s preferred states, and that it will someday jitter itself into a deeper, more stable valley. In doing so, our vacuum could lose the field that generates electrons or pick up a new palette of particles. The tightly folded dimensions could come unfurled. Or the vacuum could even give up on existence entirely.

This instability of tiny dimensions has long plagued string theory, and various ingredients have been devised to stiffen them. In December, Garcia Garcia, together with Draper and Benjamin Lillard of Illinois, calculated the lifetime of a vacuum with a single extra curled-up dimension. They considered various stabilizing bells and whistles, but they found that most mechanisms failed to stop the bubbles. Their conclusions aligned with Witten’s: When the size of the extra dimension fell below a certain threshold, the vacuum collapsed at once.

With a large enough hidden dimension, however, the vacuum could survive for many billions of years. This means that theories producing bubbles of nothing could plausibly match our universe….Nature may not be a big fan of the vacuum. In the extremely long run, it may prefer nothing at all.

Full article at Quanta Magazine.

The discussion presented above brings up the famous philosophical question: “Why is there something rather than nothing?” The (nearly) empty vacuum of space is not “nothing.” Space itself is something. If nothing (a true “nothing” without quantum fields or anything) preceded our “something,” it could not logically give rise to something, otherwise it wouldn’t truly be nothing). If “something” preceded our something, then what gave rise to that pre-existing something? Naturalism seems to require an infinite regress of somethings, made up of matter, energy, or fields, none of which show evidence of being able to exist for infinite time (and even time seems to have had a beginning).

So, why is there something rather than nothing? if infinitely existing nature isn’t in line with logic or science, then there must have been another type of cause, a cause that is immaterial, timeless, powerful enough to give rise to a whole universe, intelligent enough to create living organisms, conscious so that it could impart consciousness, and volitional, so that it could make a choice to bring this universe into being. What do you think?

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F/N: I propose a new term, no-verse to denote a conceived state of affairs whereby utter non-being obtains. The no-verse implies that such a state of affairs would forever obtain as non-being has no causal capability. The notion that infinitely many possibilities obtain for a no-verse is tantamount to imagining it is a substantial entity with capabilities, precisely what such a state of affairs could not be. KFkairosfocus
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EDTA, your link is interesting, esp the answer: >>'Obtains' is used instead of 'is true' because states of affairs are not linguistic or abstract entities like sentences and propositions. The sentence "the cat is on the mat" can be true. The proposition expressed by "the cat is on the mat" can be true. But the cat's being on the mat is not the sort of thing that can be true. Instead, it can 'obtain', exist, be happening, be realized, and so on. Of course, if neither of those alternative notions is clearer to you than 'obtains', this won't answer your question.>> KFkairosfocus
August 16, 2022
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PS, I suspect EDTA may be taking up that rare usage as I have pointed it out for years, we are quite different people. PPS, AmHD:
ob·tain (?b-t?n?, ?b-) v. ob·tained, ob·tain·ing, ob·tains v.tr. To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire. v.intr. 1. To be in existence, in effect, or customary: "standards, proprieties that no longer obtain" (Meg Greenfield). 2. Archaic To succeed. [Middle English obteinen, from Old French obtenir, from Latin obtin?re : ob-, intensive pref.; see ob- + ten?re, to hold; see ten- in Indo-European roots.] ob·tain?a·ble adj. ob·tain?er n. American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
kairosfocus
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PK, nonsense. I only note that what is not there has no capability to cause. In this case, utter non being implies no world of any form whatsoever. The quantum foam or the like is not utter non being. Yes, it is hard to imagine utter non being; similar to the null set or the transfinite or complex numbers or negative numbers once were, but it can be conceived, stated and logically analysed. What is not cannot cause what becomes, and utter non being means no reality, no-verse if you will. By conceptual error, you have constructed a form of words that is self-defeating but potentially misleading. KFkairosfocus
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Pater @ 19, On the use of the word "obtain", see here https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8116/what-does-obtain-mean-in-philosophy-jargon As far as attributing rules and constraints, the only one I am trying to apply is the fact that from total nothingness, only more of the same can obtain.EDTA
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Pater K @ 15:
Which means that the probability of “something” emerging is pretty close to 100%.
Cambridge Dictionary:--(1st American Dictionary Verb meaning): "to appear by coming out of something or out from behind something" What did this "something" you speak of emerge from? The better way of putting it is that "something" emerging from "nothing" is Creation.PaV
August 15, 2022
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@KF @EDTA You are both attributing rules and constraints to something that by definition has none. And you both have the same curious use of the word "obtain". Not saying it's wrong, just unusual. It makes me think the two of you are the same person.Pater Kimbridge
August 15, 2022
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PK: >>If there was truly nothing, not only would there be no matter, energy, or fields,>> 1: Yes, utter-non being would obtain. >>but there would also be no rules or constraints on what can or cannot happen.>> 2: More to the point, we know that there would be no causal capability, that is why such a state would obtain, i.e., always would hold as the case. >>Remaining as nothing is only one thing that could happen. >> 3: You have tried to pull a non-existing rabbit from an equally non-existent hat, through non existent forces, causes etc. 4: Thus, you have tried to smuggle in the back door what was locked out by the realities of utter non-being. 5: What you really imply is, that a contingent world such as ours demands a necessary being world root. >>There are infinitely many “somethings” that could occur,>> 6: Just the opposite, were there utter non being there is no possibility of any thing happening. >>but only one “nothing”. >> 7: Not even abstract structure, quantity or numbers would obtain. >>Which means that the probability of “something” emerging is pretty close to 100%.>> 8: This fails to follow, utter non being, having no causal powers or other capabilities, utter non being were it ever so would forever obtain. 9: A quantum foam or the like is not non-being. KFkairosfocus
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Pater @ 15, >If there was truly nothing, not only would there be no matter, energy, or fields, but there would also be no rules or constraints on what can or cannot happen. There would be no constraints, but as you immediately observed: >Remaining as nothing is only one thing that could happen. Right. >There are infinitely many “somethings” that could occur, but only one “nothing”. Which means that the probability of “something” emerging is pretty close to 100%. That presumes that all the possibilities had equal probability. But, as we seem to agree, none of the non-nothing possibilities would ever obtain.EDTA
August 14, 2022
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The sticking points for those who reject ID are these: 1) Living things only look designed. No, living things are actually designed. 2) The great fear that the intelligence behind design will be chosen to be the Christian God. 3) This will lead to the biggest disaster imaginable. It will get into public schools as science. Now the science teacher and the textbooks will not mention God, but religious schools will. 4) The final blow. Politicians will develop policies based on this. And something approaching a true Christian nation will reemerge from decades of damage caused by Marxist-Atheists infiltrating education and creating a state within a state. In fact, all moral peoples will support this.relatd
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If there was truly nothing, not only would there be no matter, energy, or fields, but there would also be no rules or constraints on what can or cannot happen. Remaining as nothing is only one thing that could happen. There are infinitely many "somethings" that could occur, but only one "nothing". Which means that the probability of "something" emerging is pretty close to 100%.Pater Kimbridge
August 14, 2022
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Chuckdarwin, I am well aware of Davies trying to distance himself from traditional religion, and also from ID in particular. but unfortunately for Davies, and no matter how much he may try to resist it, the science itself keeps pointing to ID, (and even to traditional religion). For instance,
Hey, Paul Davies — Your ID Is Showing Robert F. Shedinger - March 6, 2020 Excerpt: No better advertisements for intelligent design exist than works written by establishment scientists that unintentionally make design arguments. I can think of few better examples than well-known cosmologist Paul Davies’s recently published book The Demon in the Machine: How Hidden Webs of Information Are Solving the Mystery of Life (2019). With a nod toward James Clerk Maxwell’s entropy-defying demon, Davies argues that the gulf between physics and biology is completely unbridgeable without some fundamentally new concept. Since living organisms consistently resist the ravages of entropy that all forms of inanimate matter are subject to, there must be some non-physical principle allowing living matter to consistently defy the Second Law of Thermodynamics. And for Davies there is; the demon in the machine turns out to be information. Order from Chaos Throughout the book, Davies marvels at the stunning complexity of life, especially at the cellular and molecular levels. He wonders at the existence of molecular machines like motors, pumps, tubes, shears, and rotors — paraphernalia familiar to human engineers — and their ability to manipulate information in clear and super-efficient ways, in Davies’s words “conjuring order out of chaos.” In fact, he calls the cell “a vast web of information management,” observing that while molecules are physical structures, information is an abstract concept deriving from the world of human communication. Yet despite all these analogies between the nanotechnology of life and the world of human engineering, Davies deftly ignores the obvious conclusion — the nanotechnology of life must have been designed, just like human-engineered machinery. Though he tries valiantly to ignore this obvious conclusion, Davies cannot completely run and hide, for he explicitly says, “It is hard not to be struck by how ingenious all this machinery is, and how astonishing that it remains intact and unchanged over billions of years.” (Emphasis in the original.) Indeed! Anything so ingenious must, almost by definition, be the product of intelligence if we are not to drain the word “ingenious” of its meaning. His Work and Its Implications But trying to ignore the implications of his own work, Davies soldiers on with more unintentional ID statements: Life’s ability to construct an internal representation of the world and itself — to act as an agent, manipulate its environment and harness energy — reflects its foundation in the rules of logic. It is also the logic of life that permits biology to explore a boundless universe of novelty. Logic, of course, is a product of mental activity. So is Davies implying an active intelligence working at the cellular and molecular level? It appears so even if he would never admit it. Yet he does practically admit it when he throws up his hands and declares, “Indeed, life’s complexity is so daunting that it is tempting to give up trying to understand it in physical terms.” If the molecular machinery of the cell has overwhelmed Davies with its sublime complexity, he is equally astounded by the field of epigenetics: “In the magic puzzle box of life, epigenetic inheritance is one of the more puzzling bits of magic.” He discusses the research on directed mutation by John Cairns in the 1980s, more recent work on epigenetics by Eva Jablonka, and the early work on transposition by Barbara McClintock and its flourishing in James Shapiro’s Natural Genetic Engineering and concludes: “…it’s tempting to imagine that biologists are glimpsing an entire shadow information-processing system at work at the epigenetic level.” Tempting indeed! And lest we forget, information processing derives from and is a property of intelligence. The Mystery of Life’s Origin Finally, Davies turns to the origin of life question which he brands as “almost a miracle.” He agrees that chemistry alone cannot explain the origin of life because one also needs to account for the origin of information. For Davies: Semantic information is a higher-level concept that is simply meaningless at the level of molecules. Chemistry alone, however complex, can never produce the genetic code or contextual instructions. Asking chemistry to explain coded information is like expecting computer hardware to write its own software. The origin of coded information is, according to Davies, the toughest problem in evolutionary biology. But, of course, it is only a tough problem for those who have excluded intelligence from the equation a priori. From an ID perspective, the origin of information is no mystery at all. It is always the creation of intelligent minds, a point made consistently by Stephen Meyer. Beyond Chemistry To explain all this, Davies can do no better than to speculate that somehow new laws and principles emerge from information processing systems of sufficiently great complexity. But he entirely ignores the question of the origin of the information processing system itself, which he has already pronounced as beyond the ability of chemistry alone to explain. It is likely that Davies would never want to align himself with the ID community. He might believe that the professional cost is just too great. But if I didn’t know any better, I would swear that The Demon in the Machine had rolled right off the presses of Discovery Institute. If abstract information is truly at the root of life, then intelligence has to be factored into the equation. Davies has made a compelling case for the former, so by extension — and much to his chagrin — he seems to be making a compelling case for the latter. https://evolutionnews.org/2020/03/hey-paul-davies-your-id-is-showing/
Of note to Einstein,
December 2021 - Thus in conclusion Einstein himself may not have personally believed in life after death, (nor in a personal God), but Special Relativity itself contradicts Einstein's personal beliefs and offers stunning confirmation that Near Death Testimonies are accurate ‘physical’ descriptions of what happens after death, i.e. of going to a ‘higher timeless/eternal dimension’, i.e. heavenly dimension, that exists above this temporal realm.,,, https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/50-christmases-later/#comment-743334
Like Davies's personal beliefs are contradicted by the science, the science itself contradicts Einstein's personal beliefs.bornagain77
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BA77/5 You are fond of quoting Paul Davies. However, I just got done re-reading Davies' Cosmic Jackpot and feel that it important to be clear that Davies rejects both theism and intelligent design. He devotes an entire chapter to debunking the latter. His description of "God" is a bit, although not exactly, similar to that of Einstein, and ultimately Spinoza. All three reject the Bible as revealed truth. Davies is also very clear that, as a cosmologist, the answers to the "big questions" such as origin of the cosmos and life will be answered by the hard work of "traditional" research and not by importing ID concepts which he reiterates are simply God- of- the -gaps arguments.chuckdarwin
August 14, 2022
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Seversky @6: There is this difference. E.g., I leave home and as I do, I place the NY Times in the trash can, go out the front door and lock it. I return 10 hours later. I unlock the front door, walk in and find the NY Times not in the trash can, but on my kitchen table. I "don't know" who did it; but I "know" that some human being did it, since there is no other natural explanation. Why is it not obvious that likewise, what we see in nature bespeaks a "Prime Mover," to use the Aristotelian term, that lies behind what nature reveals? Even the Greeks, using nothing other than logic, arrived at the notion of an "Unmoved Mover." That we "don't know" <b<who this Unmoved Mover is, doesn't mean that we "don't know" that this "power" must exist.PaV
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Everybody gets to choose what they want to believe. We can choose to believe this "something" of the universe came from nothing or we can choose to believe this "something" is the work of an intelligent Creator. The question is: What makes sense? The idea of "something out of nothing" doesn't make sense. The human brain cannot handle the idea; the moment we imagine something comes from nothing, our brains immediately identify nothing as actually being something. The idea of a Creator external to the something of this space/time makes perfect sense; our brains have no trouble understanding the Creator to be "something" though not something of this space/time. Even people who choose to pooh-pooh the idea of finite space/time—something that had a beginning—have no trouble understanding the idea. I suggest that the reason people choose to believe that the universe could come from nothing is not scientific, but personal. It is humbling to consider an infinite, all-powerful Creator with intelligence vastly beyond our own who created all that exists for His own purpose rather than ours. And humility does not come naturally to human beings.Red Reader
August 14, 2022
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EDTA et al, the true nothing is non being. Were there ever utter non being, as such can have no causal powers, it would indeed always be the case. That a world is demands in the end a necessary being world root. The real issue is the nature of such. Especially with a world that has rational, responsible, morally governed creatures, us. KFkairosfocus
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Pater @ 8, Nothing (true nothingness, not the pseudo-nothingness physicists are always tossing about) is the default because it is the simplest state that could have obtained. And had it obtained, it always would be the case (as someone above points out). Any non-nothing state immediately requires additional answers to questions such as "ok, now why did _this_ specific not-nothing state obtain?"EDTA
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Why must "nothing" be the default, and "something" be what needs explaining? At the level of the cosmos, it may be the other way around.Pater Kimbridge
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Seversky, fails to realize, and/or more likely, refuses to ever honestly admit, that his worldview of Darwinian materialism cannot possibly ground the 'intelligibility' of the universe, nor the 'rationality'' of the human mind, that are necessary cornerstones for us to even 'do science' in the first place. For instance, if Darwinian evolution were actually true, then, as Donald Hoffman has shown, ALL of our perceptions of reality would be illusory,
Donald Hoffman: Do we see reality as it is? – Video – 9:59 minute mark Quote: “fitness does depend on reality as it is, yes.,,, Fitness is not the same thing as reality as it is, and it is fitness, and not reality as it is, that figures centrally in the equations of evolution. So, in my lab, we have run hundreds of thousands of evolutionary game simulations with lots of different randomly chosen worlds and organisms that compete for resources in those worlds. Some of the organisms see all of the reality. Others see just part of the reality. And some see none of the reality. Only fitness. Who wins? Well I hate to break it to you but perception of reality goes extinct. In almost every simulation, organisms that see none of reality, but are just tuned to fitness, drive to extinction (those organisms) that perceive reality as it is. So the bottom line is, evolution does not favor veridical, or accurate perceptions. Those (accurate) perceptions of reality go extinct. Now this is a bit stunning. How can it be that not seeing the world accurately gives us a survival advantage?” https://youtu.be/oYp5XuGYqqY?t=601 The Evolutionary Argument Against Reality – April 2016 The cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman uses evolutionary game theory to show that our perceptions of an independent reality must be illusions. Excerpt: “The classic argument is that those of our ancestors who saw more accurately had a competitive advantage over those who saw less accurately and thus were more likely to pass on their genes that coded for those more accurate perceptions, so after thousands of generations we can be quite confident that we’re the offspring of those who saw accurately, and so we see accurately. That sounds very plausible. But I think it is utterly false. It misunderstands the fundamental fact about evolution, which is that it’s about fitness functions — mathematical functions that describe how well a given strategy achieves the goals of survival and reproduction. The mathematical physicist Chetan Prakash proved a theorem that I devised that says: According to evolution by natural selection, an organism that sees reality as it is will never be more fit than an organism of equal complexity that sees none of reality but is just tuned to fitness. Never.” https://www.quantamagazine.org/20160421-the-evolutionary-argument-against-reality/ of related note is this quote from Steven Novella “our brains evolved to have, a very compelling and persistent illusion – namely that the reality we perceive is real, rather than a constructed representation.” – Steven Novella https://mindmatters.ai/2019/07/tales-of-the-mind-a-neurologist-encounters-the-house-of-mirrors/
Yet, although the Atheistic Materialist is forced to believe that ALL of his perceptions of reality are illusory, the scientific method itself, in its very first step, assumes, as an essential presupposition, that our perceptions of reality are, by and large, reliable and trustworthy and that they are not merely illusions.
The scientific method At the core of biology and other sciences lies a problem-solving approach called the scientific method. The scientific method has five basic steps, plus one feedback step: 1. Make an observation. 2. Ask a question. 3, Form a hypothesis, or testable explanation. 4. Make a prediction based on the hypothesis. 5. Test the prediction. 6. Iterate: use the results to make new hypotheses or predictions. The scientific method is used in all sciences—including chemistry, physics, geology, and psychology. The scientists in these fields ask different questions and perform different tests. However, they use the same core approach to find answers that are logical and supported by evidence. https://www.khanacademy.org/science/high-school-biology/hs-biology-foundations/hs-biology-and-the-scientific-method/a/the-science-of-biology
Thus, since Darwinian evolution is forced to hold that ALL our observations of reality are illusory, and therefore denies that any of our observations of reality can be reliable, then Darwinian evolution, obviously, can never be based upon the scientific method itself and Darwinism is therefore, (once again), falsified in its claim to be a scientific theory.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 but test all things. Hold fast to what is good.
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It seems to be a truism about science that the more we learn the more we realize just how much there is that is still unknown. Saying that we don't know when we don't is just more honest that saying it is God's will or an inscrutable purpose in the mind of some unspecified designer, which all amount to the same thing.Seversky
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BobRyan: "The universe remains full of wonders yet to be discovered." And to presuppose that such undiscovered wonders of the universe will be intelligible to the human mind is to presuppose Theism to be true. In fact, the Judeo-Christian presupposition of 'intelligibility' of the universe was one of the essential presuppositions that led to the founding of modern science in Medieval Christian Europe.
Physics and the Mind of God: The Templeton Prize Address – by Paul Davies – August 1995 Excerpt: “People take it for granted that the physical world is both ordered and intelligible. The underlying order in nature-the laws of physics-are simply accepted as given, as brute facts. Nobody asks where they came from; at least they do not do so in polite company. However, even the most atheistic scientist accepts as an act of faith that the universe is not absurd, that there is a rational basis to physical existence manifested as law-like order in nature that is at least partly comprehensible to us. So science can proceed only if the scientist adopts an essentially theological worldview.” https://www.firstthings.com/article/1995/08/003-physics-and-the-mind-of-god-the-templeton-prize-address-24 “Science in its modern form arose in the Western civilization alone, among all the cultures of the world”, because only the Christian West possessed the necessary “intellectual presuppositions”. – Ian Barbour Presupposition 1: The contingency of nature “In 1277, the Etienne Tempier, the bishop of Paris, writing with support of Pope John XXI, condemned “necessarian theology” and 219 separate theses influenced by Greek philosophy about what God could and couldn’t do.”,, “The order in nature could have been otherwise (therefore) the job of the natural philosopher, (i.e. scientist), was not to ask what God must have done but (to ask) what God actually did.” Presupposition 2: The intelligibility of nature “Modern science was inspired by the conviction that the universe is the product of a rational mind who designed it to be understood and who (also) designed the human mind to understand it.” (i.e. human exceptionalism), “God created us in his own image so that we could share in his own thoughts” – Johannes Kepler Presupposition 3: Human Fallibility “Humans are vulnerable to self-deception, flights of fancy, and jumping to conclusions.”, (i.e. original sin), Scientists must therefore employ “systematic experimental methods.” (Francis Bacon’s championing of inductive reasoning over and above the deductive reasoning of the ancient Greeks) – Stephen Meyer on Intelligent Design and The Return of the God Hypothesis – Hoover Institution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_8PPO-cAlA The Judeo-Christian Origins of Modern Science - Stephen Meyer - video - (April 2022) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss-kzyXeqdQ Michael Egnor: Judeo-Christian Culture and the Rise of Modern Science – July 23, 2022 https://evolutionnews.org/2022/07/michael-egnor-judeo-christian-culture-and-the-rise-of-modern-science/ Science and Theism: Concord, not Conflict* – Robert C. Koons IV. The Dependency of Science Upon Theism (Page 21) Excerpt: Far from undermining the credibility of theism, the remarkable success of science in modern times is a remarkable confirmation of the truth of theism. It was from the perspective of Judeo-Christian theism—and from the perspective alone—that it was predictable that science would have succeeded as it has. Without the faith in the rational intelligibility of the world and the divine vocation of human beings to master it, modern science would never have been possible, and, even today, the continued rationality of the enterprise of science depends on convictions that can be reasonably grounded only in theistic metaphysics. http://www.theistic.net/papers/R.Koons/Koons-science.pdf
Einstein himself considered the 'comprehensibility' of the universe to be a "miracle' and even chastised 'profession atheists' in the process of calling it a miracle,
You find it strange that I consider the comprehensibility of the world (to the extent that we are authorized to speak of such a comprehensibility) as a miracle or as an eternal mystery. Well, a priori one should expect a chaotic world which cannot be grasped by the mind in any way.,,, ,,, the kind of order created by Newton’s theory of gravitation, for instance, is wholly different. Even if the axioms of the theory are proposed by man, the success of such a project presupposes a high degree of ordering of the objective world, and this could not be expected a priori. That is the “miracle” which is being constantly reinforced as our knowledge expands. There lies the weakness of positivists and professional atheists who are elated because they feel that they have not only successfully rid the world of gods but “bared the miracles”. - Einstein https://inters.org/Einstein-Letter-Solovine
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The universe remains full of wonders yet to be discovered.BobRyan
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The so-called Big Bang describes a beginning where the universe starts at a very small "Planck length." It then detonates. [Why?] And expands. It is supposed that there is a great deal of energy, radiation and a period where everything remains very hot. Then things begin to cool down and the universe, somehow, orders itself. At this moment, other galaxies are moving away from our own at a high rate of speed. Some appear to be moving at faster than light speeds, called superluminal. There is another problem called redshift. This is an observed shift in the spectral data obtained from the movement of other galaxies. It is assumed that the greater the redshift, the greater the speed at which they are moving away. But there is a problem with that. Halton Arp, who worked with Edwin Hubble, has observed low redshift objects in space where they should not be. But as Hubble himself mentioned, if redshift does not measure distance then it is wrong and an indication of something else. https://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Red-Redshifts-Cosmology-Academic/dp/0968368905 It would appear that Einstein had at least one significant flaw in his calculations, primarily, it would appear, because he did not have access to cosmic ray data. "As an object approaches the speed of light, the object's mass becomes infinite and so does the energy required to move it." This is not true. It would imply that particles would gain infinite mass. Photons are waves and particles and move at the speed of light. "Cosmic rays, which are ultra-high energy particles originating from all over the Universe, strike... [+] The fast-moving charged particles also emit light due to Cherenkov radiation as they move faster than the speed of light in Earth's atmosphere, and produce secondary particles that can be detected here on Earth." So, here are some very fundamental problems. And even though gravity waves have not been detected, gravity can bend photons coming toward us from space, referred to as gravitational lensing. "Gravitational lensing occurs when a massive celestial body — such as a galaxy cluster — causes a sufficient curvature of spacetime for the path of light around it to be visibly bent, as if by a lens."relatd
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March 2022 - Inflation is an ad hoc reductive materialistic model that was imagined out of thin air by theoretical physicists in order to ‘explain away’ the specific macroscopic properties of the flatness of the universe and the uniformity of the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR). https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/sabine-hossenfelder-did-the-early-universe-really-inflate-rapidly/#comment-748804 Critics Respond to Stephen Meyer’s New Book (Without Mentioning Him by Name) - Brian Miller - October 16, 2021 Excerpt: Siegel attempts to find a loophole for the conclusion of a cosmic beginning by appealing to the theory known as eternal chaotic inflation. Inflationary theory was initially developed to explain the fine-tuning implied by the “flatness” of space and the near perfect uniformity of the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR). The flatness represents the lack in curvature of space that the theory of general relativity would normally predict. According to the standard Big Bang model, the lack of curvature required the mass density of the early universe to have been fine-tuned to greater than 1 part in 10^60 (a 1 with 60 zeros behind it). Inflationary theory attempts to explain the flatness of space and the uniformity of the CMBR without the need for such extreme fine-tuning. It postulates a field permeating space that causes the universe to expand at a phenomenal rate. The earliest versions assumed that the expansion occurred a tiny fraction of a second after the Big Bang and only lasted for an exceedingly short period. This expansion purportedly flattened space and generated a CMBR with the observed uniformity. Unfortunately, Siegel’s claim was completely discredited by the research of leading cosmologists Arvind Borde, Alan Guth, Alexander Vilenkin. They developed the Borde, Guth, Vilenkin (BGV) theorem that demonstrates that all universes, which are on average expanding, must have had a beginning. Our universe falls into this category, so it must have had a beginning even if eternal inflation were true. https://evolutionnews.org/2021/10/critics-respond-to-stephen-meyers-new-book-without-mentioning-him-by-name/ Pop Goes The Universe - Scientific American - January 2017 - Anna Ijjas, Paul J. Steinhardt and Abraham Loeb Excerpt: “If anything, the Planck data disfavored the simplest inflation models and exacerbated long-standing foundational problems with the theory, providing new reasons to consider competing ideas about the origin and evolution of the universe… (i)n the years since, more precise data gathered by the Planck satellite and other instruments have made the case only stronger……The Planck satellite results—a combination of an unexpectedly small (few percent) deviation from perfect scale invariance in the pattern of hot and colds spots in the CMB and the failure to detect cosmic gravitational waves—are stunning. For the first time in more than 30 years, the simplest inflationary models, including those described in standard textbooks, are strongly disfavored by observations.” “Two improbable criteria have to be satisfied for inflation to start. First, shortly after the big bang, there has to be a patch of space where the quantum fluctuations of spacetime have died down and the space is well described by Einstein’s classical equations of general relativity; second, the patch of space must be flat enough and have a smooth enough distribution of energy that the inflation energy can grow to dominate all other forms of energy. Several theoretical estimates of the probability of finding a patch with these characteristics just after the big bang suggest that it is more difficult than finding a snowy mountain equipped with a ski lift and well-maintained ski slopes in the middle of a desert.” “More important, if it were easy to find a patch emerging from the big bang that is flat and smooth enough to start inflation, then inflation would not be needed in the first place. Recall that the entire motivation for introducing it was to explain how the visible universe came to have these properties; if starting inflation requires those same properties, with the only difference being that a smaller patch of space is needed, that is hardly progress.” “…inflation continues eternally, generating an infinite number of patches where inflation has ended, each creating a universe unto itself…(t)he worrisome implication is that the cosmological properties of each patch differ because of the inherent randomizing effect of quantum fluctuations…The result is what cosmologists call the multiverse. Because every patch can have any physically conceivable properties, the multiverse does not explain why our universe has the very special conditions that we observe—they are purely accidental features of our particular patch.” “We would like to suggest “multimess” as a more apt term to describe the unresolved outcome of eternal inflation, whether it consists of an infinite multitude of patches with randomly distributed properties or a quantum mess. From our perspective, it makes no difference which description is correct. Either way, the multimess does not predict the properties of our observable universe to be the likely outcome. A good scientific theory is supposed to explain why what we observe happens instead of something else. The multimess fails this fundamental test.” https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/sciam3.pdf In the following video Stephen Meyer touches on multiverse models and found the Theistic model to be favored over the multiverse, I.e. ‘multimess’, models Stephen Meyer Discusses the Big Bang, Einstein, Hawking, & More - Science Uprising Expert Interviews https://youtu.be/m_AeA4fMHhI?t=1252
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If we can conceive of an eternal God then why not an eternal "something"? Could an eternal God be the same as the eternal "something" - a "God-thing"? For me, an infinite causal regress is both unimaginable and unsatisfying. But then so is an uncaused first cause because it sounds too much like a convenient but entirely arbitrary cut-off point whose only reason for existence is to prevent the unsatisfying infinite causal regress.Seversky
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