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Over at Evolution News & Views, Casey Luskin reflects on a disturbing aspect of a recent new book by atheist Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller, illusionists), God No! , where he writes:

“The respect for faith, the celebration of faith, is dangerous. It’s faith itself that’s wrong. I deny terrorists the moral right to have faith in a god that will reward them for killing people with airplanes. That means I have to deny Christians the moral right to a faith that Jesus Christ died for their sins. That means I have to deny the warm, fuzzy faith that there’s some positive conscious energy guiding the universe. That means I have to get pissed off when Luke Skywalker trusts ‘the force.’ … F*** faith.” (Penn Jillette, God, No!: Signs You May Already Be an Atheist and Other Magical Tales, p. 229 (Simon & Schuster, 2011).)

Note the rhetoric: “That means I have to … ”

Let’s hope that Jillette doesn’t mean he also has to ban the book or the film or forbid any discussion of it in an increasingly low ranking public school system. We raise this point only because some people who talk this way do mean that, and they mean it comprehensively.

For some while now we have been pointing out the illiberal nature of new atheism. It saves us work when the new atheists underline the fact themselves.

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H'mm: First, last I checked, EVERY worldview inevitably and inextricably intertwines reason and belief in its root structure. Maybe this short primer on critical thinking basics can help? (What about this one on de-spinning our heads in a spin-tossed world?) Second, I am now of the view that we all need to take very close look at the story of the prodigal son, to understand the psycho-spiritual and social dynamics that seem to be at work for ever so many of the strident new atheists. GEM of TKIkairosfocus
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Sorry that should be bloke.George_t
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Does this chick deny herself the moral right to have the faith necessary to accept that her five senses give her a complete and accurate sense of reality? If no then are all faiths equal?George_t
January 16, 2012
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“The respect for faith, the celebration of faith, is dangerous. It’s faith itself that’s wrong. I deny terrorists the moral right to have faith in a god that will reward them for killing people with airplanes. Oh, where to begin? I guess Jillette doesn't realize that without GOD, there is no morality. The righteous indignation towards the terrorist he abhors is baseless in a materialistic universe since the terrorist can claim his own set of "morals" and Jillette has no ultimate authority to appeal to for justification that his "morals" are the right ones. It's like having laws without a legal authority to enforce them...everybody loses. (Besides, how can you blame the poor terrorist for doing what his DNA forces him to do? Remember, Cashmore stated in PNAS that we have no more free will than a bowl of sugar does.) BTW, it's interesting how Jillette never mentioned the enormous amount of FAITH certain atheists have in a multiverse, or in the power and ability of 'nothingness' to create something. Atheism is a self-refuting belief system.Blue_Savannah
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I don't quite understand why he feels that respect for faith is wrong. Atheists criticize religious people who they claim aren't tolerant towards others; now they have an ad hoc spokesman who shows how intolerant atheists can really be.Barb
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Well Penn Jillette will never be mistaken for a scholar- most people will think his book is a joke- and obvioulsy he doesn't understand how much faith it takes to be an atheist.Joe
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We've never supposed that he represents all atheists, Bruce David. Many atheists post comments on our site who - we would would think - by no means think that they "have to get" peaced about any random disagreement about anything, let alone get into a row with someone who doesn't exist (Luke Skywalker). So yes, you are likely right about the anger problem. Our concern is the extent to which new atheism, as opposed to the usual kind, may act as a channel for that kind of usually unfocused anger, and what the results will be. We'll just keep an eye on it.News
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I've seen Penn Jillette a few times, and I think he has an anger problem. His comment, "That means I have to get pissed off when Luke Skywalker trusts ‘the force.’" is telling. He's combative. I don't think he represents all atheists by any means. (I'm thinking of people like Christopher Hitchens and Antony Flew before his "conversion".)Bruce David
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