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ISIS: No Darwin to be taught in schools

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Recently, we learned that Islamic terror state ISIS has decided to ban teaching all kinds of things, including evolution:

The extremist-held Iraqi city of Mosul is set to usher in a new school year. But unlike years past, there will be no art or music. Classes about history, literature and Christianity have been “permanently annulled.”

The Islamic State group has declared patriotic songs blasphemous and ordered that certain pictures be torn out of textbooks.

The new curriculum even went so far as to explicitly ban Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution—although it was not previously taught in Iraqi schools.

Parents are trying to keep their kids from school and some are homeschooling. May as well, once the list of things the kid won’t learn is longer than the list of things he will.

When I (O’Leary for News) said, “Stop all teaching of Darwinism in the schools now,” as it happens, I intended to make a point: There is a “Today-in-nothing-to-do-with-Darwin” pattern by which commentators ignore the motives of shooters who explicitly identify with Darwin’s theory of evolution.

Not just “evolution,” mind you.

Evolution, by itself, won’t persuade a guy that he is the Nietzschean superman, or that he is anything in particular. We needed Darwinian evolution for that, with its focus on “fitness” for survival (cf The Descent of Man).

A friend points out that ISIS differs markedly from ID folk in the Western world, who definitely do want Darwinian evolution to be taught and discussed—warts and all. Just about all leading ID theorists want that, and most Darwin followers want to stop it.

That is why ID types vote for academic freedom bills and Darwin followers vote against them.

It is usually opponents of ID who charge, without evidence, that ID types don’t want evolution taught in schools. Why let facts get in the way of a crowd-pleasing narrative?

See also: Re Chapel Hill shootings: new atheist Sam Harris says no atheism to see there (We wonder what Harris would say if the accused had been a militant Christian fundie, with a Facebook Page to match? Readers?)

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News, Barry Arrington states that you have a gift for a, 'turn of phrase'. "Stop all teaching of Darwinism in schools now", does not display that gift. It is as subtle as sledgehammer blow. ISIS are also unsubtle. They do and say what they mean, there is no ambiguity or room for leverage, or grey areas. Indeed subtlety and all attenuated thought are not only frowned upon they are rooted out as being vestiges of western decadence. I have to ask the obvious question: Why oh why did you bring up ISIS, education and anti-Darwinism and ID? The only thing people will now subliminally do, is equate these as being similar, however tenuous your future turns of phrase.rvb8
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The problem there being that there are no actual issues with evolutionary synthesis. Just things creationists don't understand.CHartsil
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So, news, you are saying, "Teach Darwin correctly (flaws and all) or not at all"? If suggesting that Darwin is imperfect is prohibited under the "separation of church and state" doctrine, then teaching Darwin must be also? I can totally agree with that. All sides, or no side. In the mean time, I really think the story here is that the Darwin lobby is no less narrow than ISIS is.bFast
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Let the Darwin believers teach their theory/philosophy in school but make sure the kids hear the counter arguments as well. Make sure the kids recognise the theory is controversial and allow them to question and provide access to material discrediting the theory. The current state of forcing this philosophy on our children, without allowing dissent, is disguising and unacceptable.humbled
February 22, 2015
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There isn't that much for Mark Frank to understand. I wrote: "When I (O’Leary for News) said, “Stop all teaching of Darwinism in the schools now,” as it happens, I intended to make a point: There is a “Today-in-nothing-to-do-with-Darwin” pattern by which commentators ignore the motives of shooters who explicitly identify with Darwin’s theory of evolution." If it's acknowledged that Darwinism affects some people that way, fine. Cf the German generals in WWI, and many in Hitler's circles. (No, not breaking Godwin's law here. Read Richard Weikart's exhaustive scholarship on the subject.) If none of that can be acknowledged due to political correctness and Darwinian atheists lobbying the school board, then stop all such teaching now. Maybe it is too simple a position for many to grasp.News
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From the post, "A friend points out that ISIS differs markedly from ID folk in the Western world, who definitely do want Darwinian evolution to be taught and discussed—warts and all." Yes, teach Darwinian evolution! Just don't be ISISesk about your ideology.bFast
February 22, 2015
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5MM I was just trying to understand Denyse's position on this. As she points out in an earlier OP she wrote "stop all teaching of Darwinism in schools now". I am not sure whether she is taking that back or not. That's all.Mark Frank
February 22, 2015
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Mark Frank asks, So do you want neo-Darwinism taught in schools or not? I say, Of course we do. The quickest way for an incorrect idea to be discredited is for it to be understood. This is the position of all the ID advocates I know of. It's the other side that wants to limit the information students receive in schools. How long have you been following this stuff? I can't believe you did not know this. Peacefifthmonarchyman
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So do you want neo-Darwinism taught in schools or not?Mark Frank
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