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For your further amusement from a man who just doesn’t know when to stop.

From: RJDownard@snip
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:39:30 EDT
Subject: Uncommon Descent indeed!
To: william.dembski@snip

Dear Bill

You take “all responsibility for any errors” in Coulter’s evolution chapters. Your words, not mine. Coulter has written what she has written. Either you are willing to defend each of her published assertions, or you may repudiate them. You have done neither.

Thus the questions I asked remain. As amply evidenced by her prior works, Coulter can get confused entirely on her own. But it is also legitimate to wonder to what extent her published antievolution statements due to your proud tutoring?

In my effort to resolve this point, I apologize for having employed specific terminology in my letter as though I were communicating with someone who was scientifically literate. My mistake. I wish I could avoid such highfallutin language, but unfortunately words actually mean things, and it is occasionally necessary to use them when the subject is something that directly relates to them. Much like those symbols required for precise discourse in the math biz. You remember that.

Perhaps I should have kept things on the melodramatic level of your blog buddies. “I take umbrage, sir! I am an insufferable smart ass, and refuse to accept demotion to mere smarminess. A duel at sunrise. Choice of weapons, scholarly pen.”

Once your brain cools down from that “host of terms and concepts” that came to your mind whilst reading my annoying affront to your repose, what I had to say about what Coulter had to say is readily available to you at Talk Reason. Should you feel disposed to defend any statement or repudiate them, in whatever venue you may elect, don’t let my smarminess stop you.

In the spirit of those popular competition shows on TV, I will even throw down a challenge. See if you can get to your response before I get to the substance of it. Topic: the “mammalian developmental biology” I put on my list. Clue: it was sandwiched between dentary bones and Probainognathus. And with due apologies to lucID, this involves real developmental biology, nothing “imaginary” about it. As it happens, though, unless you mentioned the information to her (which I suspect you could not have), Coulter didn’t get to be wrong here because of anything she might have heard from you. She could only have got her misinformation from one specific source, written by someone known to you, who was objectively familiar with it, but didn’t write of it either because they didn’t recognize its significance (or did, and suppressed it).

Finally, I do appreciate the way in which you elected to respond to my email. By posting it in the public domain for all to see, without answering any of its points, and by the rib-nudging grunting of your commentators, you illustrate very neatly the depth of care and studiousness you are capable of contributing to scholarly discourse.

In the words of “The Closer”: Thank You.

Jim (Insufferable Smart Ass) Downard

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To Downard (if you read this): You should modify your approach and simply list specific examples where you believe Coulter is in error. The approach you're using now doesn't help you...Patrick
July 17, 2006
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File this one under "Jim Downard: Hurt Feelings of..."Doug
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I'm thinking that some of my comments (melodramatic blog buddie) contributed to Mr. Jimbo taking umbrage (that whole 'inverse' list of technical terms in the first post). Sorry there Herr Jim. How about since you initiated the duel challenge, Bill or a blog buddy gets to pick the weapon of choice, as is customary. Judging from the shrill tone of your letter (Reminding me of Robbie Coltrane's portrayal of Dr Johnson in Blackadder III) from I suggest handbags at dawn rather than pens, as you might just accidentally injure your self with a pen.lucID
July 16, 2006
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Mr. Downard's bombast conjurs to me the image of a duck with one foot nailed to a floor, flopping and quacking in outrage...going, unfortunately, nowhere.glennj
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"Okay, she may be technically wrong about a bear falling in the water and turning into whale (even though Darwin proposed this). It was probably a hippopotamus. But you get the general idea about Darwinian theory." No you got it wrong. It was a hippopotamus' great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great great,great,great grandmaSmidlee
July 15, 2006
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Jim writes like a girly man. 'Nuff said.DaveScot
July 14, 2006
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Entertaining indeed. How could anyone possibly refute such a scientifically rigorous ripost? I just finished reading Coulter's book. She is intentionally and mercilessly inflammatory, irreverent, and heretical. That's what I like about her, since I am a fellow irreverent heretic. Okay, she may be technically wrong about a bear falling in the water and turning into whale (even though Darwin proposed this). It was probably a hippopotamus. But you get the general idea about Darwinian theory.GilDodgen
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"In my effort to resolve this point, I apologize for having employed specific terminology in my letter as though I were communicating with someone who was scientifically literate. My mistake. I wish I could avoid such highfallutin language, but unfortunately words actually mean things, and it is occasionally necessary to use them when the subject is something that directly relates to them." If you were philosophically literate you'd be familiar with conversational implicature/pragmatics. Along with (purportedly) referring to objects in the world, words and sentences often convey lots of other information that depends more on context of utterance than the actual content of the proposition. Now, given then context of utterance, I think it's pretty clear that the list of words you sent to Bill functioned as a not so subtle way of saying f**k you rather than any serious attempt at meaningful dialogue.LowenheimSkolem
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