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The folly of projecting group-stereotype guilt and the present kairos

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The kairos concept is, in a nutshell, that there are seasons in life and in community, so that there are times that are opportune or even simply pivotal and trend-making. At such times, we are forced to decide, for good or ill. And yes, carry on with business as usual . . . especially on a manifest march of folly . . . is a [collective, power-balance driven] decision; ill advised though it may be:

Of Lemmings, marches of folly and cliffs of self-falsifying absurdity . . .

More formally:

With that in mind, I now draw attention to Chenyuan Snider’s expose of some of the more terrifying Red Guard-like group-guilt, stereotyping and scapegoating tactics of the totalitarian government she grew up under; here, targetting a particularly revered group in historic, Confucius- influenced Chinese culture, teachers. Let me excerpt to highlight the power dynamics at work:

Mrs Chenyuan Snider, Artist and Teacher

When I was a first grader, there was a new political movement initiated by the Communist Party in China – the anti-teacher movement. It was precipitated by a tragic incident in which a student in China’s remote countryside attempted suicide because of mistreatment by her teacher. Overnight, all teachers in China were considered evil by virtue of being teachers. As students, we were ordered by the authorities to write about our teachers’ unscrupulous behavior towards us. It was mandatory. Every student had to write a condemnation about their own teacher on a poster and paste it on the wall. The bigger the poster and the longer the criticism, the holier the student became. In other words, the more a teacher was vilified, the more righteous the student appeared. There was no time for anyone to process and digest the new situation because it came like a huge wave engulfing everyone. During my time growing up in China, there were several movements during which one group was set up against another. These movements had proven to be enormously effective for the communist government to consolidate power. In the process, enemies were eliminated . . . .

Throughout history, wherever there are humans, there is injustice. However, when events are interpreted not as the fault of individuals, but rather, as a fault of a certain group, it creates hostility between large numbers of people. Through propaganda and political correctness one group can claim ascendant status over another. But this does not resolve the issues. In reality, tension from both sides continues to build up and intensify, which in turn produces more injustice and opposition. The justice that is due to the true victim is often buried in the larger struggle between groups. In the end, the victim is used as a prop serving the purpose of fighting the opposition.

This is of course reflective of the common folly of projecting blame or disdain to race, class, age [or want of age], sex, profession, honest occupation or the like. Surely, we can agree with the apostles and prophets that we partake of the common grace of life, sharing a common Imago Dei.

However, as a civilisation, we now face a recrudescence of one of the worst plagues afflicting our civilisation over the past quarter-millennium, [neo-]Marxism. Here, in a plethora of manifestations of so-called Critical Theories, more accurately: cultural form, mutant Marxism.

Let’s excerpt SEP, to see a self-congratulatory, programmatic self-description (on the way to urgently needed critique):

“Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School. According to these theorists, a “critical” theory may be distinguished from a “traditional” theory according to a specific practical purpose: a theory is critical to the extent that it seeks human “emancipation from slavery”, acts as a “liberating … influence”, and works “to create a world which satisfies the needs and powers” of human beings (Horkheimer 1972, 246). Because such theories aim to explain and transform all the circumstances that enslave human beings, many “critical theories” in the broader sense have been developed. They have emerged in connection with the many social movements that identify varied dimensions of the domination of human beings in modern societies. In both the broad and the narrow senses, however, a critical theory provides the descriptive and normative bases for social inquiry aimed at decreasing domination and increasing freedom in all their forms.

Critical Theory in the narrow sense has had many different aspects and quite distinct historical phases that cross several generations, from the effective start of the Institute for Social Research in the years 1929–1930, which saw the arrival of the Frankfurt School philosophers and an inaugural lecture by Horkheimer, to the present. Its distinctiveness as a philosophical approach that extends to ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of history is most apparent when considered in light of the history of the philosophy of the social sciences. Critical Theorists have long sought to distinguish their aims, methods, theories, and forms of explanation from standard understandings in both the natural and the social sciences. Instead, they have claimed that social inquiry ought to combine rather than separate the poles of philosophy and the social sciences: explanation and understanding, structure and agency, regularity and normativity. Such an approach, Critical Theorists argue, permits their enterprise to be practical in a distinctively moral (rather than instrumental) sense. They do not merely seek to provide the means to achieve some independent goal, but rather (as in Horkheimer’s famous definition mentioned above) seek “human emancipation” in circumstances of domination and oppression. This normative task cannot be accomplished apart from the interplay between philosophy and social science through interdisciplinary empirical social research (Horkheimer 1993). While Critical Theory is often thought of narrowly as referring to the Frankfurt School that begins with Horkheimer and Adorno and stretches to Marcuse and Habermas, any philosophical approach with similar practical aims could be called a “critical theory,” including feminism, critical race theory, and some forms of post-colonial criticism . . . .

It follows from Horkheimer’s definition that a critical theory is adequate only if it meets three criteria: it must be explanatory, practical, and normative, all at the same time. That is, it must explain what is wrong with current social reality, identify the actors to change it, and provide both clear norms for criticism and achievable practical goals for social transformation.

That ever so humble but sometimes inadvertently revealing crowd-source, Wikipedia, gives somewhat less subtly shielded details:

Critical theory is the reflective assessment and critique of society and culture to reveal and challenge power structures. It argues that social problems are influenced and created more by societal structures and cultural assumptions than by individual and psychological factors. Critical theory has origins in sociology and also in literary criticism. The sociologist Max Horkheimer described a theory as critical insofar as it seeks “to liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them”.[1]

In sociology and political philosophy, the term Critical Theory describes the Western Marxist philosophy of the Frankfurt School, which was developed in Germany in the 1930s. This use of the term requires proper noun capitalization,[citation needed] whereas “a critical theory” or “a critical social theory” may have similar elements of thought, but does not stress the intellectual lineage specific to the Frankfurt School. Frankfurt School critical theorists drew on the critical methods of Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud. Critical theory maintains that ideology is the principal obstacle to human liberation.[2] Critical theory was established as a school of thought primarily by the Frankfurt School theoreticians Herbert Marcuse, Theodor Adorno, Max Horkheimer, Walter Benjamin, and Erich Fromm. Modern critical theory has additionally been influenced by György Lukács and Antonio Gramsci, as well as the second generation Frankfurt School scholars, notably Jürgen Habermas. In Habermas’s work, critical theory transcended its theoretical roots in German idealism and progressed closer to American pragmatism. Concern for social “base and superstructure” is one of the remaining Marxist philosophical concepts in much of contemporary critical theory.[3]

Postmodern [–> thus, current] critical theory analyzes the fragmentation of cultural identities in order to challenge modernist era constructs such as metanarratives, rationality and universal truths, while politicizing social problems “by situating them in historical and cultural contexts, to implicate themselves in the process of collecting and analyzing data, and to relativize their findings”.[4]

Ironically, the “metanarrative” of Western, white male domination and the heroic effort to overthrow it is, of course, an obvious self-referentially incoherent element in all this. And, as we saw from Ms Snider, once sociopathic radical ideologues use this metanarrative to target those whom they wish to turn into scapegoats, the door yawns to group guilt on core characteristics that are genetic or so shaped by one’s life story as to be key to one’s identity, leading to terrifying injustice through agit prop, media amplification of street theatre, media lynch mobs, lawfare, show trials and oh so convenient “progressive” solutions.

If such does not ring true, it should.

Now, several years ago, here at UD, I put on the table an alternative framework for political spectra, informed by historical trends and linked factors on modern liberty and constitutional, democratic self-government through elected representatives:

U/d b for clarity, nb Nil

It seems to me, that this is a useful framework to speak to some ugly trends of our time that are not without relevance to the marginalising, stereotyping, slandering, expelling and scapegoating of supporters of Intelligent Design. But then, it — more significantly — speaks far more broadly.

The natural state of humanity is tyranny, or at most some degree of lawfulness under a somewhat fair-minded governing elite. The antithesis to that is the raw, untamed wilderness, the “dark and bloody ground” of the so-called state of nature. That description, is how Kentucky (then a mutually agreed hunting grounds of the tribes) was described to one Daniel Boone, by Amerindians. Such a state is so abhorrent, so prone to naked theft, murder and rapine, that it is a repeller-pole that drives communities towards the vortex of tyranny. From which, historically, as a rule one only escapes by rivers of blood and tears.

In my considered opinion, it was only as the rise of moveable-type print coupled to a religious ferment emphasising freedom of conscience and individual accountability before God, that the unstable but sustainable middle ground emerged. Between 1450 and 1650, the groundwork for democratising reforms with due buttressing from key community institutions enabled the rise of modern, elected representative, parliamentary democracy constrained not only by a tradition-bound corpus of law, but by explicit Constitutions pivoting crucially on Bills of Rights articulated on built-in, conscience attested principles of natural law. I should add, interestingly, all of these happened in lands that acceded to Christian Civilisation and which had a significantly Germanic cultural base with its emphasis on freedom, thus consent to legitimate rule.

Where, let us recall, some core theses:

Thus, as we see in Augustine’s and Aquinas’ reflections:

Where, we may see Aquinas’ theme of a naturally evident, intelligible (so, sound conscience attested), creation-order based framework for civil law and for reformation:

We still hear an echo of this in the concept of crimes that shock the conscience. Such crimes can be done by some brigand hiding in a cave, but they can also be done by those in positions of lawful power or even some who pose as liberators. Crimes can even be done under false colours of law or rights and even that of processes of justice, through lawfare.

In my considered view, the ongoing abortion holocaust of our living posterity in the womb . . . 800+ millions in 40+ years and mounting up by another better part of a million per week [statistics suggests 1.4 billion] . . . is a capital, utterly civilisation corrupting example.

Litmus Test: if one cannot pass the test of standing up for the unborn, further claims to be a champion of liberation of the oppressed can be disregarded.

However, in our day, the toxic brew we face is compounded by a widespread rejection of the natural law vision with its pivot on sound conscience sensitive to truth, duty, justice. I here point to legal positivism and the nihilism that crouches at the door.

Again, SEP is subtly veiled, but enough sticks out that we can pick up hints as to the lurking reefs of a graveyard of ships of state:

Legal positivism is the thesis that the existence and content of law depends on social facts and not on its merits. The English jurist John Austin (1790–1859) formulated it thus:

>>The existence of law is one thing; its merit and demerit another. Whether it be or be not is one enquiry; whether it be or be not conformable to an assumed standard, is a different enquiry. (1832 [1995: 157]) >>

The positivist thesis does not say that law’s merits are unintelligible, unimportant, or peripheral to the philosophy of law. It says that they do not determine whether laws or legal systems exist. Whether a society has a legal system depends on the presence of certain structures of governance, not on the extent to which it satisfies ideals of justice, democracy, or the rule of law. What laws are in force in that system depends on what social standards its officials recognize as authoritative; for example, legislative enactments, judicial decisions, or social customs. The fact that a policy would be just, wise, efficient, or prudent is never sufficient reason for thinking that it is actually the law, and the fact that it is unjust, unwise, inefficient or imprudent is never sufficient reason for doubting it. According to positivism, law is a matter of what has been posited (ordered, decided, practiced, tolerated, etc.). Austin thought the thesis “simple and glaring”. While it is probably the dominant view among analytically inclined philosophers of law, it is also the subject of competing interpretations together with persistent criticisms and misunderstandings.

Wikipedia is again inadvertently more frank and tellingly revealing:

Legal positivism is a school of thought of analytical jurisprudence developed largely by legal philosophers during the 18th and 19th centuries, such as Jeremy Bentham and John Austin. While Bentham and Austin developed legal positivist theory, empiricism provided the theoretical basis for such developments to occur. The most prominent legal positivist writer in English has been H. L. A. Hart, who, in 1958, found common usages of “positivism” as applied to law to include the contentions that:

— laws are commands of human beings;

— there is not any necessary relation between law and morality, that is, between law as it is and as it ought to be;

— analysis (or study of the meaning) of legal concepts is worthwhile and is to be distinguished from history or sociology of law, as well as from criticism or appraisal of law, for example with regard to its moral value or to its social aims or functions;

— a legal system is a closed, logical system in which correct decisions can be deduced from predetermined legal rules without reference to social considerations;

— moral judgments, unlike statements of fact, cannot be established or defended by rational argument, evidence, or proof (“noncognitivism” in ethics).[1]

Historically, legal positivism is in opposition to natural law’s theories of jurisprudence, with particular disagreement surrounding the natural lawyer’s claim that there is a necessary connection between law and morality.

Got that? As in, “moral judgments, unlike statements of fact, cannot be established or defended by rational argument, evidence, or proof.”

Thus, then, “legal positivism is in opposition to natural law’s theories of jurisprudence, with particular disagreement surrounding the natural lawyer’s claim that there is a necessary connection between law and morality.”

Morality and justice, having been banished to the realms of irrationality, law is severed from the premise of morality, thus, justice. Nihilism — raw, untrammelled will to power (tempered only by cunning calculation as to what one can get away with, or cannot YET get away with) crouches at the door.

Enter, stage left, the sociopath with power or hoping to gain power; even under the guise of righting grave wrongs and liberating the oppressed. (And we need not detain ourselves on cheap agit prop stunts of turnabout projection as to who is oppressor. All polities are prone to injustices, the issue is to keep open a path to sound reformation.)

Destination, tyranny and the ruinous march of angry fools following a demonically anointed false political messiah:

Reformation is indicated, in defence of our civilisation.

As a start-point, we must recognise certain inescapable first principles and duties of reason that not only pervade but actually govern all of our rationality. Pace the legal positivists, morality is central to rationality and is itself rational, pivoting on self-evident first principles.

How can we — in an age blighted by selective hyperskepticism sitting in the seat of proper prudence — have confidence in such?

Simple, the very one who objects to such principles, inevitably, inescapably, implicitly, ALWAYS appeals to our intuitive adherence to such first duties of reason. So, we may freely hold that what is inescapably bound up in our rational life is just as inescapably, manifestly, necessarily, self-evidently true.

Where, of course, I here speak of our inescapable first duties of reason: to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice, etc.

Epictetus gives us a classic demonstration in a nutshell:

DISCOURSES
CHAPTER XXV

How is logic necessary?

When someone in [Epictetus’] audience said, Convince me that logic is necessary, he answered: Do you wish me to demonstrate this to you?—Yes.—Well, then, must I use a demonstrative argument?—And when the questioner had agreed to that, Epictetus asked him. How, then, will you know if I impose upon you?—As the man had no answer to give, Epictetus said: Do you see how you yourself admit that all this instruction is necessary, if, without it, you cannot so much as know whether it is necessary or not? [Cf J. C. Wright]

Let the legal positivist or critical theorist object rationally and responsibly without implicitly relying on such, if he can: _______ . We confidently, freely hold that he cannot do so.

On this, we may go down the line of asking what sort of reality root must obtain, in a world of such rationally, morally governed creatures. There is no serious answer to that, but that that root is the inherently good, utterly wise source of worlds. A familiar figure, but we need not explore that side, other than to note that the rise of both so called legal positivism and cultural marxism trace to the rise of atheism as a mass movement. First, among intellectual classes then more widely as ideologies dressed up in lab coats took root and seized cultural high ground.

That is significant, as it implies that needed reform has to challenge such intellectual roots and correct such ideologies. Which brings us to the general relevance of a useful but sometimes controversial mapping exercise:

You tell me that this model — originally tracing to the circle, Bill Bright, Loren Cunningham and Francis Schaeffer 40+ years past — does not capture a good slice of the issue. I think, we can freely use it as a map . . . which is not the territory but if well made, a helpful guide to it. (I suggest, using it in two modes: one, as a map of high ground dominating community life with seven metaphorical hills to match the famous seven hills of Rome; two, as a temple with seven columns that support and are in turn protected by a common roof.)

So, we can clearly see elements of the witches’ brew and storm that has begun to break across our civilisation in this, The Year of Our Lord, 2020, MMXX.

We have to challenge worldviews and cultural agendas, exposing Overton Window power games:

(Who would have thought that significant voices in a leading power in our day, would irresponsibly call for “defunding the police” in the context of a case where one officer . . . on evidence, likely for good reason . . . faces Murder 1 charges and three juniors face only slightly lesser charges? That, shocks both mind and conscience. Yes, reform the police is always a legitimate issue, defunding them would only trigger snap-back to the vortex of tyranny. If you needed evidence of a fourth generation, agit prop, media manipulation and lawfare driven, so far low kinetic civil war in that power, there it is. A voyage of folly is ruinous as the ghosts of Socrates, Plato and even Alcibiades would jointly warn.)

However, the issue is far wider and deeper than current political and police follies. Reformation is what is needed, and that has to engage worldviews roots. Such as, turtles all the way down being impossible:

“Turtles, all the way down . . . ” vs a root cause

Let us consider how we get to worldview root level, first plausible framework faith points:

A summary of why we end up with foundations for our worldviews, whether or not we would phrase the matter that way}

In this context, rebalancing how we consume mass and nowadays social media will be necessary also — as one of our very first steps:

Similarly, it is clear that cultural marxism and legal positivism cannot make the grade. So, it is time for serious re-thinking towards sound reformation. Otherwise, shipwreck. END

PS: Notice how street protesters in DC added to the BLM street slogan put up by the Mayor:

In broad daylight:

WASHINGTON, DC – JUNE 08: People walk down 16th street after ‚ÄúDefund The Police‚Äù was painted on the street near the White House on June 08, 2020 in Washington, DC. After days of protests in DC over the death of George Floyd, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser has renamed that section of 16th street “Black Lives Matter Plaza”. (Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)

The platform:

PPS: Warlordism and “protection” demands emerge in Seattle WA, USA — anarchy is a repeller pole that tends to push communities to the vortex of tyranny:

PPPS: The monument to fallen police officers that was recently vandalised:

And, after repeated vandalisation this is the statue of the man who warned against appeasing Herr Schicklegruber and Co. then led Britain’s lonely stand with backs to the wall in 1940. Yes, Sir Winston Spencer Churchill, in London:

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Vivid, confirming the patterns we are seeing. But, I suspect a shock is coming, first in investigations on abuses of federal agencies and courts leading to attempted railroading. Second, as the sheer insanity of what is being pushed hits home to a critical mass, it is likely that the next US election is going to put on the ground a result that will say a sharp no to this unfolding agenda. Which will lead to even more desperate shrillness. KFkairosfocus
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Vivid, All of this leads me back to themes in the OP, pivoting on the inescapable, so self-evidently true, first duties of morally governed reason. Namely, to truth, to right reason, to prudence {so, warrant, etc], to sound conscience, to neighbour, so also to fairness & justice, etc. Where, even the would be objector is forced to appeal to such, to be persuasive. Where, yes, this points to the necessity that the root of reality is inherently good and utterly wise . . . by contrast with say a demiurge. This then grounds civil law in objective core built-in natural law, much along lines envisioned by Paul in his writing to the Romans. Here, I cite to note the creation-order, rationally intelligible, naturally evident balance that shaped legal thought in the founding era of modern liberty and democratic self-government:
Rom 13: 3 . . . [civil] authorities are not a source of fear for [people of] good behavior, but for [those who do] evil. Do you want to be unafraid of authority? Do what is good and you will receive approval and commendation. 4 For he is God’s servant to you for good. But if you do wrong, [you should] be afraid; for he does not carry the [executioner’s] sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an avenger who brings punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be subject [to civil authorities], not only to escape the punishment [that comes with wrongdoing], but also as a matter of principle [knowing what is right before God]. 6 For this same reason you pay taxes, for civil authorities are God’s servants, devoting themselves to governance. 7 Pay to all what is due: tax to whom tax is due, customs to whom customs, respect to whom respect, honor to whom honor. 8 [b]Owe nothing to anyone except to [c]love and seek the best for one another; for he who [unselfishly] loves his neighbor has fulfilled the [essence of the] law [relating to one’s fellowman]. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet,” and any other commandment are summed up in this statement: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor [it never hurts anyone]. Therefore [unselfish] love is the fulfillment of the Law.
Here, civil government is recognised and good citizenship is recognised, pivoting on the civil peace of justice among community members. In which context, due and presumably frugal funding of the state is directly connected to providing law enforcement services. Where, further, key principles of morality and justice stated in the Decalogue are seen as flowing from the Golden Rule duty to neighbour. So, we see a framework for civil law in defence of the civil peace of justice, guarded by the sword of justice. So too, it is then in the end unsurprising that Alfred of the West Saxons, the Great, began his Book of Dooms with the Decalogue, the Golden Rule and the letter to Gentile converts from the Jerusalem Council of 48/49 AD. Thus, we see the roots of the Common Law tradition of Churchill's English Speaking Peoples. This then culminated in the declarations that framed the American Revolution, where to justly claim a right one must manifestly be in the right as no one can have a right to compel another to taint sound conscience. Hence, the objection of the Georgia State trooper (who is black, BTW) that he bows the knee to God, rather than man. If you hear an echo of Penn's insistence on the same point,or that of the three Hebrews in Babylon, it is there. In this light, justice can be understood as the due balance of rights, freedoms and responsibilities, framing accountability over civil codes and the operations of courts, law enforcement, parliaments, Constitutions and bodies of law, referenda etc. Thus, law is not merely an ideological tool of power, but a framework that is or should be reasonable i/l/o first duties constituting built in law. Unjust decrees then reveal their character by violating that which is built in, often demanding to taint conscience, act imprudently or unreasonably, treating lies or false narratives as though they were truth. We need to ponder very carefully where the cultural marxist metanarrative that, intending to topple that framework, would take us. KFkairosfocus
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KF Notice what happened to the Mayor of Minneapolis when he did not bow the knee it was like a scene from Maos cultural revolution. The decent classic liberal class are in for the shock of their lives. At least you and I know they are coming for us but the liberals have no clue that BLM and all it’s other manifestations are coming for them. Earlier tonight they were outside DeBllasios house. Vividvividbleau
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Vivid, they are trying for killing budget cuts and you note the suspicious evasions with that commission president who voted partyline to disband the police. She doesn't have a sound replacement in mind that can stand normal scrutiny. Yes, they intend to put a community based organisation in its place but it will not be anything like the law-based police services we know, we are looking at warlords with their paramilitary, ideological militias. Observe a telltale phrase, “community-led public safety.” At another level, we are looking at secret state police, equally ideologised. Spell Secret in German and you get Geheim, first part of Gestapo. Then, too we are looking at ideologised -- cultural marxist critical theory metanarrative -- police power wielding social services. By then, courts will be just as corrupted. Then there will be friendly, local Citizen Committees for the Defence of the new order. And yes, all of that will be spun as reforms and sounder, liberating replacements. KFkairosfocus
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“The idea of disbanding police depts. and law enforcement is pure insanity.” There is always going to be a police department the question is who or what will it be? Nor should anyone be under the illusion that this agenda to defund or dismantle the police is some kind of new spontaneous idea it’s not. This has been on the BLM ( a front group of The Freedom Road Socialist Organization) agenda for years. The New mantra is going to be reframed by the establishment Democrats to “ We don’t want to get rid of the police we just want to reimagine it” Not even the Dems are stupid enough to run on getting rid of the police. Vividvividbleau
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In 2014 a young African American nurse Carlesha Freeland-Gaither was abducted after getting off a bus near her home late at night. Someone in the neighborhood heard her screams and dialed 911… At first the detectives didn’t think they had much to go on. The witness told them about a gray sedan they had seen speeding away from the scene and then they found a cell phone someone had dropped nearby on the side walk. The phone they soon learned belonged to Carlesha… they then recovered some surveillance video which showed the car the witness described. While the video was not that good (they couldn’t make out the tag number) they thought the car was a gray Ford Taurus. Soon the FBI was involved and they put a trace on the victim’s credit and debit cards. Not long after that they got a hit. A black male withdrew money from an ATM using Carlesha’s debit card. But again, the video was not that clear… But then they got a big break. The suspect purchased a bag of chips at a convenience store using the stolen debit card. This time they got very good video and a clear picture of their suspect which they sent out to police departments in the surrounding region. An officer from Richmond Virginia soon called them back and said, “Yeah we know who that is. That’s Delvin Barnes," who had just been released from prison. They also learned that he had just bought a used gray Ford Taurus. Then they got their really big break. The dealership that sold Barnes the Taurus told them, “We put a GPS tracker on the car because he was a credit risk.” Hours later an ATF swat team took down Barnes in a parking lot. They were also able to rescue Carlesha alive at the scene… The police solved their case in a little under 72 hours. https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/abducted-woman-found-alive-in-maryland-police-source/2114404/ The law enforcement officers who worked on this case Philadelphia PD, FBI and ATF worked around the clock to rescue this young African American woman. They’re hero’s not evil racists. Look at the video of the detective hugging Carlesha’s mom. He promised her that he would find her daughter. The idea of disbanding police depts. and law enforcement is pure insanity. People need to think this through. Justice needs to be proportional. Disbanding an entire police dept. because of a few bad cops is not justice. It’s injustice.john_a_designer
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Next Minneapolis election for city council is Nov. 2, 2021. We will see what the people say. I still think it's priceless that ANTIFA black lives matter "protesters" ruined Minneapolis' businesses owned by blacks and minorities. Can't wait to see what happens when they disband the PD.ET
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I was wondering. Is there a way that the Minneapolis police dept. or their union could sue the city to stop or forestall this kind of legislation taking effect? There are a lot of jobs at stake here.
The city, as employer, is within its rights to hire, fire and restructure. But that doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t come with significant financial consequences (severance payouts and wrongful dismissal settlements). I suspect they would lose some state funding, or receive bills from the state, as state police have to fill the gap.Ed George
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F/N: Daily Mail's bullets: >>Minneapolis city council president says fears of having someone break into a house 'comes from a place of privilege' as she defends disbanding the police force [--> notice, disband] Minneapolis' City Council president Lisa Bender defended the move to disband the city's police department on Monday She explained George Floyd's death was a 'wake-up call' that the police 'is not keeping every member of our community safe' [--> an impossible standard, showing gross incompetence and/or cynical manipulation] When asked what will happen if a home is broken into, Bender explained that her worry and expectation police will help comes from a place of privilege [--> signature of cultural marxist agendas] She said council is already working on community-based safety strategies and analyzing how to shift some 911 calls to crisis and mental health workers [--> irrelevant to core issues on the table, demonstrating again gross incompetence and/or cynical manipulation] By Marlene Lenthang For Dailymail.com Published: 16:41 BST, 8 June 2020 | Updated: 18:52 BST, 8 June 2020 >> KFkairosfocus
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F/N: what are the odds that Mr Floyd's family spontaneously came up with the idea to petition the UN against the USA, to disarm the police and it looks like, remove SWAT and riot training, further framing fatalities from policing as "extrajudicial killings" (a term of art for death squads and the like)? My bet, slim to none. KFkairosfocus
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JAD, the issue is that the city's pols should be recalled from office for cause and should face consequences of culpable misconduct in office. This is outrageous abuse of office and in the face of a civil emergency. Meanwhile, we can see clear signs of the cultural marxist Critical studies theories, metanarratives and agit prop at work, with street theatre, media trumpeting and now lawfare against law enforcement itself to mainstream abolition of police. Those are 4th gen civil war moves. KFkairosfocus
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I was wondering. Is there a way that the Minneapolis police dept. or their union could sue the city to stop or forestall this kind of legislation taking effect? There are a lot of jobs at stake here.john_a_designer
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Acartia Eddie:
If you cannot envision a society without the need for police then you are completely devoid of hopes and dreams.
That doesn't follow. One can clearly have hopes and dreams without envisioning some utopia. By Acartia's logic realists can't have hopes and dreams. That's plain ignorant.
A world that doesn’t need police or armies should be something that we all strive for.
And then reality shakes us awake...ET
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Historically, police were an alternative to vigilante justice, witch hunts, vengeance killings, and mob rule. That is the whole point of having police: Remove the citizen's right to take direct, violent action in favour of enforcement of the Criminal Code and the Civil Code (I am here speaking in Canadian terms but I believe the principles are similar elsewhere). Canada became, famously, a non-violent country largely on that account. During the entire, stupid COVID-19 uproar, I never witnessed a violent incident. People didn't like the hassle with all the security guards enforcing social distance but... if you didn't want to deal with them, they could call the police. So I would say that, just by being available in principle, the police prevented violence. No one wants to be charged with creating a disturbance at a shopping mall... Social death and all that... Whoever chooses to do without the police had best have a really good alternative - and that is not what I am seeing.News
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EG
this is bordering on tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theories. If you cannot envision a society without the need for police then you are completely devoid of hopes and dreams. A world that doesn’t need police or armies should be something that we all strive for.
Is there any evidence that we live in a world that does not need police or armies? That's a rhetorical question Ed. In 2017 there was absolutely no warrant for a concrete policy proposal to do away with the police department. Now, if that person's comment could be interpreted to mean that while she was running for office she just happened to be dreaming of the eschaton, it would be one thing. But only an idiot would interpret the comment that way. In context, she clearly meant that while she was running she intended to be dangerously reckless if she gained office. She is morally culpable.Barry Arrington
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EG, you are spewing hyperskeptical dismissiveness and belittling to deflect attention from manifest insanity being pushed as policy agenda. FYI, I know what "mainstreaming" is all about and that is what is at work here. So, kindly, just stop the enabling behaviour. Further to this, so long as we live in a world of morally struggling humanity, we will need civilising -- yes, civilising -- developments such as sound courts and police; as well as disciplined, accountable, professional armed forces at the next level. Maybe it has not dawned on you that I do know a bit about realistic "alternatives" from history and from experience of a society where, sadly, partial descent into warlordism happened and where protesting students led and influenced by Communist agitators blocked the main road to a major hospital which was also the road down which army reinforcements would have to come if massive disorder broke loose. Coming back from warlordism takes rivers of blood and tears. KFkairosfocus
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FURTHER ON, same interview, who answers when an intruder shows up. Oh, that question COMES FROM A PLACE OF PRIVILEGE, what is it like to already live that reality where calling the police may mean more harm. To such, I answer that, that policing is imperfect and even sometimes abusive (as is so for any human institution) is warrant for improvement, not removal. What we are seeing is obviously insane and the language of "privilege" points to an ideological source, cultural marxism and its front of critical studies theories and metanarratives. The OP is all too relevant to our day. KFkairosfocus
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CONFIRMED: I just saw a CNN interview where a Minneapolis rep of the council that just voted to defund/abolish the police indicates that when she and others ran in 2017 whether they could envision a police free future. She said she could. That indicates, they had been thinking of this well before that.
Sorry KF, but this is bordering on tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theories. If you cannot envision a society without the need for police then you are completely devoid of hopes and dreams. A world that doesn't need police or armies should be something that we all strive for.Ed George
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CONFIRMED: I just saw a CNN interview where a Minneapolis rep of the council that just voted to defund/abolish the police indicates that when she and others ran in 2017 whether they could envision a police free future. She said she could. That indicates, they had been thinking of this well before that. Immediately, what further, even more radical and ill-advised items are on the remaining hidden part of the policy agenda. Where, obviously as we see slogans rolled out widely (including in a "protester" addendum to the Mayor's new street slogan in Wash DC) this is NOT confined to any one location. KFkairosfocus
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T+, still interested to ask Q's? KFkairosfocus
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Some lectures https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/science-worldview-issues-and-society/prof-rufus-fears-presents-the-lesson-of-athens-a-video-lecture-series/ . . . oops the lecs are gone.kairosfocus
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PS: For those willing to learn from history of how Athens failed, Ship of state. And no, if you have two neurons to rub against one another, DO NOT SKIP OVER THIS DISMISSIVELY. Rivers of blood are now on the table as the US 4th gen civil war threatens to ramp up from bleeding Kansas and Harper's Ferry stage to full kinetic stage. But this time, with a nod to the Nazi seizure of power. This is when we had better get it straight that the National Socialist German Worker's party was a party of the left and learned all the dirty tricks of their kissing cousins the Bolsheviks, with a few fresh twists:
It is not too hard to figure out that our civilisation is in deep trouble and is most likely headed for shipwreck. (And of course, that sort of concern is dismissed as “apocalyptic,” or neurotic pessimism that refuses to pause and smell the roses.) Plato’s Socrates spoke to this sort of situation, long since, in the ship of state parable in The Republic, Bk VI:
>>[Soc.] I perceive, I said, that you are vastly amused at having plunged me into such a hopeless discussion; but now hear the parable, and then you will be still more amused at the meagreness of my imagination: for the manner in which the best men are treated in their own States is so grievous that no single thing on earth is comparable to it; and therefore, if I am to plead their cause, I must have recourse to fiction, and put together a figure made up of many things, like the fabulous unions of goats and stags which are found in pictures. Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain [–> often interpreted, ship’s owner] who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. [= The people own the community and in the mass are overwhelmingly strong, but are ill equipped on the whole to guide, guard and lead it] The sailors are quarrelling with one another about the steering – every one is of opinion that he has a right to steer [= selfish ambition to rule and dominate], though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them [–> kubernetes, steersman, from which both cybernetics and government come in English]; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard [ = ruthless contest for domination of the community], and having first chained up the noble captain’s senses with drink or some narcotic drug [ = manipulation and befuddlement, cf. the parable of the cave], they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them [–> Cf here Luke’s subtle case study in Ac 27]. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain’s hands into their own whether by force or persuasion [–> Nihilistic will to power on the premise of might and manipulation making ‘right’ ‘truth’ ‘justice’ ‘rights’ etc], they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steerer, whether other people like or not-the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer’s art has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling. Now in vessels which are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing? [Ad.] Of course, said Adeimantus. [Soc.] Then you will hardly need, I said, to hear the interpretation of the figure, which describes the true philosopher in his relation to the State [ --> here we see Plato's philosoppher-king emerging]; for you understand already. [Ad.] Certainly. [Soc.] Then suppose you now take this parable to the gentleman who is surprised at finding that philosophers have no honour in their cities; explain it to him and try to convince him that their having honour would be far more extraordinary. [Ad.] I will. [Soc.] Say to him, that, in deeming the best votaries of philosophy to be useless to the rest of the world, he is right; but also tell him to attribute their uselessness to the fault of those who will not use them, and not to themselves. The pilot should not humbly beg the sailors to be commanded by him –that is not the order of nature; neither are ‘the wise to go to the doors of the rich’ –the ingenious author of this saying told a lie –but the truth is, that, when a man is ill, whether he be rich or poor, to the physician he must go, and he who wants to be governed, to him who is able to govern. [--> the issue of competence and character as qualifications to rule] The ruler who is good for anything ought not to beg his subjects to be ruled by him [ --> down this road lies the modern solution: a sound, well informed people will seek sound leaders, who will not need to manipulate or bribe or worse, and such a ruler will in turn be checked by the soundness of the people, cf. US DoI, 1776]; although the present governors of mankind are of a different stamp; they may be justly compared to the mutinous sailors, and the true helmsmen to those who are called by them good-for-nothings and star-gazers. [Ad.] Precisely so, he said. [Soc] For these reasons, and among men like these, philosophy, the noblest pursuit of all, is not likely to be much esteemed by those of the opposite faction [--> the sophists, the Demagogues, Alcibiades and co, etc]; not that the greatest and most lasting injury is done to her by her opponents, but by her own professing followers, the same of whom you suppose the accuser to say, that the greater number of them are arrant rogues, and the best are useless; in which opinion I agreed [--> even among the students of the sound state (here, political philosophy and likely history etc.), many are of unsound motivation and intent, so mere education is not enough, character transformation is critical]. [Ad.] Yes. [Soc.] And the reason why the good are useless has now been explained? [Ad.] True. [Soc.] Then shall we proceed to show that the corruption of the majority is also unavoidable [--> implies a need for a corruption-restraining minority providing proverbial salt and light, cf. Ac 27, as well as justifying a governing structure turning on separation of powers, checks and balances], and that this is not to be laid to the charge of philosophy any more than the other? [Ad.] By all means. [Soc.] And let us ask and answer in turn, first going back to the description of the gentle and noble nature.[ -- > note the character issue] Truth, as you will remember, was his leader, whom he followed always and in all things [ --> The spirit of truth as a marker]; failing in this, he was an impostor, and had no part or lot in true philosophy [--> the spirit of truth is a marker, for good or ill] . . . >>
(There is more than an echo of this in Acts 27, a real world case study. [Luke, a physician, was an educated Greek with a taste for subtle references.] This blog post, on soundness in policy, will also help)
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NYU professor Jonathan Haidt, who is anything but a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, makes a valiant but misguided attempt find a naturalistic basis for morality in an article that was republished a couple of years ago in the National Review. Does he succeed? I think he falls short but he does raise a few good points. Here are some excerpts from his article:
When we look back at the ways our ancestors lived, there’s no getting around it: we are tribal primates. We are exquisitely designed and adapted by evolution for life in small societies with intense, animistic religion and violent intergroup conflict over territory. We love tribal living so much that we invented sports, fraternities, street gangs, fan clubs, and tattoos. Tribalism is in our hearts and minds. We’ll never stamp it out entirely, but we can minimize its effects because we are a behaviorally flexible species. We can live in many different ways, from egalitarian hunter-gatherer groups of 50 individuals to feudal hierarchies binding together millions. And in the last two centuries, a lot of us have lived in large, multi-ethnic secular liberal democracies. So clearly that is possible. But how much margin of error do we have in such societies? Here is the fine-tuned liberal democracy hypothesis: As tribal primates, human beings are unsuited for life in large, diverse secular democracies, unless you get certain settings finely adjusted to make possible the development of stable political life. This seems to be what the Founding Fathers believed. Jefferson, Madison, and the rest of those 18th-century deists clearly did think that designing a constitution was like designing a giant clock, a clock that might run forever if they chose the right springs and gears.
Haidt is alarmed by the way illiberal tribalism has begun to take over our democratic institutions-- the media, higher education and government. Can a diverse multi-ethnic culture like we find in the United States survive a resurrected form of tribalism? If the trends continue the way they have been going for the last the last 50 years, the answer, in my opinion, is NO. It appears to me that the secular progressive left have gone all in with tribal identity politics. Despite claims to the contrary, they really don’t have arguments based on reason, facts, evidence, logic and truth; rather it’s a commitment to group-think-- “we think we are reasonable and right because of who we are: good, virtuous people.” Again that kind of group-think was/is also typical of Marxists and Fascists. That should be no surprise much of the secular-progressive left is made up of cultural Marxists. Haidt appears to agree with me:
Today’s identity politics has another interesting feature: It teaches students to think in a way antithetical to what a liberal-arts education should do. When I was at Yale in the 1980s, I was given so many tools for understanding the world. By the time I graduated, I could think about things as a Utilitarian or a Kantian, as a Freudian or a behaviorist, as a computer scientist or a humanist. I was given many lenses to apply to any one situation. But nowadays, students who liberal major in departments that prioritize social justice over the disinterested pursuit of truth are given just one lens — power — and told to apply it to all situations. Everything is about power.* Every situation is to be analyzed in terms of the bad people acting to preserve their power and privilege over the good people. This is not an education. This is induction into a cult, a fundamentalist religion, a paranoid worldview that separates people from each other and sends them down the road to alienation, anxiety, and intellectual impotence.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454964/age-outrage (*Emphasis added.)john_a_designer
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Vivid, actually on experience of seeing descent into partial warlordism, some money will go into the communities, to help set up the warlords and their retinues. To get back out of that abyss, it will take blood and tears by the riverful. And. notice how bang-bang-bang in lockstep this all is? I bet this bit of misanthropy was all cued up and waiting for something to be spun into a trigger event. We need to conclude that those who propose something like this are implacable enemies of civilisation and those they carry with them, then think very carefully about where this voyage of mutinous folly would end if unchecked. And allusion to the parable of the ship of state is deliberate. KFkairosfocus
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EG “They don’t have the same problem in white neighborhoods. Why do you think that is?” When Ferguson erupted and the police officer was absolved I decided I would read the full transcript of the investigation and the witnesses that were involved.. They testified that the Michael Brown hands up don’t shoot was BS, a lie that is still repeated today. Once you understand Critical Theory you understand that is is not about truth rather narrative. Anyway these witnesses were afraid for their lives and were extremely reticent to come forward. They were all African Americans. The proposal to defund the police is going to harm the very community everyone seems so concerned about. I had to laugh when I saw Garcetti is going to cut police funding and give that money to community groups, what a joke. There is not one penny of that money that will find its way to the community itself. What is going on is disgusting. I say abolish the police see how that works out! Vividvividbleau
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https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-critical-theory/ https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-critical-race-theory/ https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-1619-project/ https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-white-complicity/ https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-social-justice/ You read these links and everything comes into focus Vividvividbleau
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“So what it means is that Critical Theory is an instrument for advancing one’s own political or moral agenda.” Critical theory is the antithesis of classic liberalism. Critical Theory, Critical Racist Theory and Critical social Justice theory has deceived classic liberals across the board. Alarm bells should be going of all across America but our ignorance about the true intentions of the Critical Theorists will unleash a whirlwind. Classic liberals are unknowingly participating unbeknownst to what it means for them, in short sheep to the slaughter. Vividvividbleau
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Imagine the riots if Chauvin gets off.
Dept trained method that was in use
Someone said that this maneuver has been used in Minneapolis about 3-4 times a week somewhere by its police force.jerry
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Maybe an apt analogy for a lot of what is happening in the world today. From Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises
“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asks. “Two ways,” Mike responds. “Gradually and then suddenly.”
How many things in the world could be described by this statement today?jerry
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Once again, without a transcendent standard for interpersonal moral obligations there is no basis for universal human rights. Nevertheless, the secular progressive left, which has no transcendent basis for morality, ethics or human rights because it is rooted in a mindless naturalistic metaphysic, has illegitimately co-opted the idea of human rights to push its perverted political agenda of so-called social justice. But how can someone’s (or anyone’s) subjective opinion of right and wrong become the basis of universal human rights? Many of our regular interlocutors, have tried to argue that moral values are in fact subjective. But again, subjective values do not carry any kind of interpersonal moral obligation. They are your values not mine. They are simply arbitrary personal preferences. Why should I be obligated to even respect your personal opinion? How can one have something like universal human rights based on arbitrary subjective personal preferences? And what good is any kind of moral system if moral obligations are not real and binding? The U.S. founding fathers appear to have understood that ideologically motivated groups or “factions” which existed in the 18th century, like todays social justice warrior left (with its so-called factions like Black Lives Matter, Antifa etc.) would try to subvert the political process. This is one reason why they made it difficult to amend the U.S. Constitution. For example, the first 10 amendments to the constitution, which were passed very quickly, (the so-called Bill of Rights) required a 2/3 vote in each house of congress as well as approval of ¾ of state legislatures. It appears the founders thought this would prevent a small vocal faction from subverting the will of the people. However, apparently they didn’t notice the loophole in article III that allowed Supreme Court judges to appropriate more power than was constitutionally granted to them. That’s the loophole that the secular progressive left has been able to exploit and is why they have used the courts to push their agenda. You don’t need to convince an overwhelming majority of people you are right-- you don’t even need to convince a majority. All you need is to convince are a few sympathetic judges who share your “enlightened” group think. The problem is that is not representative or small-r republican government. That’s an oligarchy. An oligarchy is one of the types of government that takes away rights. Furthermore, moral subjectivism or relativism provides no basis to create a broad based consensus which is necessary for society and government to protect fundamental human rights.john_a_designer
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