Further to Larry Moran wants Royal Society evo meeting cancelled!, here’s what he said:
It looks to me like the organizers of this meeting didn’t think very carefully about the can of worms they were opening. When you have speakers like Denis Noble and Jim Shapiro you are just inviting trouble. When you try to lecture Suzan Mazur about paradigm shifting you are bound to regret it.
I’m beginning to think this meeting isn’t going to happen. The Royal Society is going to end up looking very bad and there’s no easy way to fix the problem short of cancelling the meeting. More.
Now he insists he doesn’t want the meeting cancelled.
Larry Moran (me) does not want the meeting cancelled. I’ve already booked my flight to London and reserved a place to stay. I’m really looking forward to meeting some of those people. I love the controversy and the fights.
However, I do think the Royal Society is going to regret its decision to host the meeting. This is not a group that enjoys negative publicity and there’s going to be a lot of negative publicity.
I’m predicting that they may cancel the meeting because the IDiots and the kooks are gloating about destroying evolution.
It will be interesting to see how many ID people show up. I’m betting that Denyse O’Leary won’t be there. I’ll buy her a beer if she comes.
Larry, you can get your money back, assuming you bought ticket insurance, but we are guessing you know that.
If the Royal Society did cancel the meeting now, lots of people would be forced to draw their own conclusions about the way in which the Society is no longer competent to host a serious debate. Most of those people will not be kooks, just people who recognize that at some time this discussion needs to happen. May as well be now.
I (O’Leary for News) will try to come but face local constraints.
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This commentary related to professor L.M. was originally posted in the previous thread dealing with the controversial Royal Society meeting:
@31 in the thread http://www.uncommondescent.com.....ent-612278 I wrote:
@32 in the same thread News commented:
Please don’t cancel the meeting, Royal Society. This is way too much fun…and getting better by the day. Thanks for the entertainment!
Larry Moran is unable of develop rational scientific conclusions, and move forward from his outdated, century old views. All the evidence on the contrary of his views , he ignores or dismisses outhand. That shows that he is indoctrinated and impregnated with evolutionary thinking in a manner, that makes it almost impossible for him to see the truth and recognize the direction, that scientific evidence leads to. May there be even a sign of cognitive disorder ? Or just bad will to recognize facts ? It seems that the old generation like him is in a significant part a lost case. We need to hope that a newer generation of biologists and biology students are able to analyse the scientific evidence with as little as much prejudice and bias, and come to accurate conclusions.
Perhaps Moran, after he is done trying to protect the Royal Society’s reputation from “idiots and kooks’, could look into trying to stop engineers from using Design principles to engineer better vaccines? After all, we wouldn’t want anyone to get the wrong idea that Design principles are useful in biology would we Larry?
bornagain77 @3
Well, get ready to read that your questions addressed to professor L.M. are not honest. See explanation posted @1. 🙂
BTW, thanks for the interesting link.
@2
“Please don’t cancel the meeting, Royal Society. This is way too much fun…and getting better by the day. Thanks for the entertainment!”
Perhaps professor L.M. (unwittingly) is promoting Suzan Mazur’s books or her column at the Hufftington Post? 🙂
Does anyone know why Professor L.M. refers to some fellow professors as ‘kooks’?
“Does anyone know why Professor L.M. refers to some fellow professors as ‘kooks’?”
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Clearly; kook derives from cook, and may be interspersed with crook.
Darwin cooked the books by establishing a false theological position in order to make a crook out of Yahweh/Jesus. But in L M terms, Darwin is not a kook.
Dioniso
A clue can be found about Prof Moran on how his students rate him.
Okay, I just registered for the event. Can you believe it – the Society required me to admit that my family is of Irish origin!
Me to them: Yeah. So? I am a loyal and patriotic Canadian. Fifth gen.
You want a fight? The O’Learies are, famously, the foightin’ Oirish.
But we came to North America to get AWAY from that stuff. We just wanted to help build a community in peace. We spent five generations doing this in Canada.
Whatever. See you in November.
News is going to the front lines herself? Fantastic!
Try to sit next to Moran if you can to make him as uncomfortable as possible. 🙂
Preferably where an I’m with stupid T-shirt! 🙂
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mw @7
I thought it was a Canadian Toronto local term for a friendly way to call colleagues or something like that?
But what you describe doesn’t seem friendly at all, does it?
I’m learning new English vocabulary here today.
Thank you for the hint.
correction: Preferably WEAR an I’m with stupid T-shirt! 🙂
(note to self: double check spelling when suggesting for someone to wear an ‘I’m with stupid’ T-Shirt. 🙂 )
Andre @8
How do they rate him? How can you find out?
I’d guess they rate him very well, don’t they?
http://www.ratemyprofessors.co.....?tid=39948
BA77
Thank you for the link.
I took a quick look and noticed the ratings look pretty nice, aren’t they?
Unless I misunderstood the scale?
Aren’t those numbers percentile?
🙂
The sample is sparse, Yet 18 poor ratings to 2 good ratings:
some of the comments from the poor ratings:
“Molecular evolution. Dr. Moran ruined it for me. He doesn’t listen to his students. When I would ask a question or make a comment, he would immediately disagree, and often proceed to show that I was in fact correct. He doesn’t listen. Huge ego. Unfortunate. The course content is so interesting, but now no one is taking the course.”
“There are no words to describe this prof. If you wanna spare yourself post-traumatic stress disorder, 60 paged lab reports, his scary marking, and even scarier ego, don’t take this course. he doesn’t even deserve 15 on his evaluation. he deserves 05. Or less. The TA’s were nice though.”
“His ego gets in the way of teaching.”
“OMG this guy needs to GROW UP. He acts like a spoiled brat playing king of the castle with his little throne in biochemistry.”
“instead of spending so much time on BIOME, i think mr. moran should use all that time improving his teaching abilities. he’s certainly lacking in this respect, and he should either learn to design tests and exams properly, or leave to someone who can.”
“lectures were useless – couldn’t teach”
“the worse prof in the world. i would NOT recommend this course, or the horrible biochemistry program.”
“Evaluation should allow negative numbers!”
“imagine the worst professor you’ve ever had. Moran probably taught him.”
“the course is very good EXCEPT for MORAN. He kills everyone on the literature assignment, and he can’t teach. The other professors are very nice though.”
“he tries very hard not to accommodate to your needs”
You can be sure that O’Leary will be wearing a halter top and rude-words-free tee shirt. See you all there.
Will ‘O’Leary for News’ report on the science? It’s just that if you are at a conference that will be the end of Darwinism it might be an idea to video, and record everything. Just so we can pinpoint the exact moment when ID wins the day. Just a thought, ‘O’Leary for News’.
Also, have you got your lesson plans, and research programmes sorted out yet? There will be a huge market for ID research, and literature once Suzan Mazur, and ‘O’Leary for News’ succeed in toppling perhaps the most rigorously supported theory in modern science.
In the quotes from LM above I see nothing about him ‘wanting’ to cancel the meeting, only a suggestion that cancellation is the only response to having quacks attending.
‘Requiered me to admit that my family is of Irish origin.’ This seems implausible. Also, your family didn’t go to North America, they went to Canada, and I still believe you have a Queen, the same one I do actually. You also have a Governor General, who signs all your laws as a representative of Her Majesty. This feigned joining of Canada with the US myth of founding is rather tedious.
rvb8, take a vacation.
Re News post at 9: The last time I can remember being asked about my ethnicity was in 1959. We got rid of that retarded system in Canada because:
1. If you can’t tell by looking at me, why do you care?
2. If you CAN tell by looking at me, why do you care?
3. Why do you care anyway?
Note: There is a small class of diseases where ethnicity matters, but that’s all medical confidential.
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News @20
Well stated.
Thank you.
BA77 @16
Those students are rude, aren’t they?
When professor L.M. affirmed –here in this online site- that he knows exactly how morphogen gradients form, someone could have taken that as a reflection of an egocentric attitude, but we should graciously give him the benefit of the doubt, shouldn’t we?
🙂
“Take a vacation.” In New Zealand we usually say, “take a holiday”, but I’ll put your idiom down to the proximity you enjoy with another country.
You do have a Queen, and I believe to become a Canadian citizen people still have to swear allegiance to her; we still do in New Zealand, and I loath it!
At this conferance in London will you ask questions of the scientists present? Will you put them on the, ‘hot spot’? Will Suzan? Or will we be subjected to the usual inter-net hype?
“We got rid of that system..” I doubt that strongly. I’m sure Canadian border police look very suspiciously at hijab clad women, and men of a Middle Eastern look; rightly so, in my opinion!