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male (XY) mouse with female genitalia and female (XX) mouse/Greta Keenan, Francis Crick Institute

From David Klinghoffer at ENST, on Darwinism and the recent find that junk DNA can alter genitalia:

The “junk” view, once a prized piece of evidence for neo-Darwinian theory, is thus reduced to the province of the benighted, the reactionaries who “still refer to [it] as ‘junk’ DNA,” after science has already passed them by. Having volumes of garbage lying around was a logical prediction of Darwinism that is in the process of being falsified. Now, it seems likely that non-coding regions have not trivial but “drastic effects.”

This reversal helps explain why evolutionists like Richard Dawkins have radically revised a key claim. Dawkins himself, in the space of three years, went from assuring us that junk validates Darwinism to claiming that function is what it expects. What a theory! It can never, ever be wrong. More.

Dawkins here:

I have noticed that there are some creationists who are jumping on [the ENCODE results] because they think that’s awkward for Darwinism. Quite the contrary it’s exactly what a Darwinist would hope for, to find usefulness in the living world…. [2012]

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Dawkins here:

Back in 2009, in The Greatest Show on Earth (pp. 332-333), he was presenting the supposed junkiness of the vast majority of the genome as an assured scientific reality and one that is, in the specific case of “pseudogenes,” “useful for. . . embarrassing creationists.”

Believe Dawkins if you want. We understand that there is currently a sale price offered for universal swivel joints for the mind…

See also: Junk DNA can actually change genitalia. Junk DNA played the same role in defending Darwinian evolution as claims that Neanderthal man was a subhuman did: The vast library of junk genes and the missing link made Darwin’s story understandable to the average person and the missing link even became part of popular culture. With Darwinism so entrenched, the fact that these beliefs are not based on fact will be difficult to root out of the culture. Darwin-only school systems are part of the problem.

(2012)

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SA,
That distinction was added later in the scientific conversation as yet another attempt to salvage some credibility.
So what is the time period where no such distinction was made? I remember in the 1980s biologists regularly attempting to explain that not all non-coding dna is considered junk, as there’s non-coding dna that has functions, such as various regulatory roles. The media never seems to get the memo though. I believe the distinction is even in the 1972 paper that coined the term “junk dna”. For how many years (decades) has Larry Moran been predicting that the amount of dna in our genome will be about 90%? I think currently we know of about 1% of non-coding dna has a function of some kind. In other words, we need to find about 10x more functional non-coding dna that what’s currently known. Maybe in another 100 years or so of finding more and more functional non-coding dna we’ll start getting close to his 90% prediction.goodusername
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Actually, Richard Dawkins can't slip out from the 'prediction' of junk DNA so easily. The 'prediction' of junk DNA came from population genetics itself. That is why Dan Graur and Larry Moran were so flustered by the results of ENCODE and is exactly why they fought so hard against the ENCODE results.
Revisiting the genetic load argument with Dan Graur - Larry Moran - JULY 14, 2017 Excerpt: The deleterious mutation rate is calculated using the lowest possible mutation rate and the smallest percentage of deleterious mutations (4%). Under these conditions, the human population could survive with a fertility value of 1.8 as long as less than 25% of the genome is functional (i.e. 75% junk) (red circle). That's the UPPER LIMIT on the functional fraction of the human genome. But that limit is quite unreasonable. It's more reasonable to assume about 100 new mutations per generation with about 10% deleterious. Using these assumptions, only 10% of the genome could be functional with a fertility value of 1.8 (green circle). Whatever the exact percentage of junk DNA it's clear that the available data and population genetics point to a genome that's mostly junk DNA. If you want to argue for more functionality then you have to refute this data. http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/07/revisiting-genetic-load-argument-with.html
Maybe Moran and Graur need a refresher course on how science actually works:
The Scientific Method - Richard Feynman - video Quote: 'If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn’t make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are who made the guess, or what his name is… If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL6-x0modwY The ENCODE Embroilment, - part 3 Excerpt: A Great Divorce Critics like Dan Graur charge that ENCODE is guilty of "divorcing genomic analysis from its evolutionary context"22—and that's exactly right. ENCODE's empirically based finding that the vast majority of our genome is functional has withstood theoretical, evolution-based objections from critics. Maybe a divorce from evolutionary thinking is exactly what we need to liberate biology from bad evolutionary assumptions and explain what's happening inside our cells.,,, http://www.salvomag.com/new/articles/salvo33/the-encode-embroilment-part-III.php Dan Graur, Darwin’s Reactionary - June 21, 2017 Excerpt: In 2013, biologist Dan Graur criticized the “evolution-free gospel of ENCODE” and accused its researchers of “playing fast and loose with the term ‘function,’ by divorcing genomic analysis from its evolutionary context.”81 In a lecture at the University of Houston, Graur argued that “if the human genome is indeed devoid of junk DNA as implied by the ENCODE project, then a long, undirected evolutionary process cannot explain the human genome.” In other words: “If ENCODE is right, then evolution is wrong.” But for Graur, evolution can’t be wrong. His solution to the problem? “Kill ENCODE.”82,,, Lots of evolutionists think that way but only the rare Darwinian atheist materialist is willing to state the matter as nakedly as this. No wonder Dr. Graur is among a list of individuals thanked by Dr. Wells in his Acknowledgments for “making embarrassingly candid or unwittingly humorous statements.” https://evolutionnews.org/2017/06/dan-graur-darwins-reactionary/
bornagain77
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That distinction was added later in the scientific conversation as yet another attempt to salvage some credibility. When researchers find some new functionality for what was previously considered Junk DNA, then Darwinists can still claim, “yes, it’s functional but it’s still non-coding”.
This is not true at all, do you just make this stuff up or what?Amblyrhynchus
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Amblyrhynchus @4 That distinction was added later in the scientific conversation as yet another attempt to salvage some credibility. When researchers find some new functionality for what was previously considered Junk DNA, then Darwinists can still claim, "yes, it's functional but it's still non-coding". Now that discoveries are showing functions for the supposed junk, evolutionists like Dawkins can say "of course, it must have a function, that's what evolution would select for". Now, as above to avoid some embarrassment. "We never said Junk DNA was non-functional, only that it was non-coding". Right. If any biological feature doesn't code for genes then we should call it junk? As for the fudging of statistics - yes, perhaps evolutionary biologists are the only scientists who do not use such tactics. I've read enough of their papers and personal opinions over the years to draw my own conclusion.Silver Asiatic
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The 'Just So' stories continue. It's all proof of evolution. What's amazing is that they aren't embarrassed by any of this. "But of course we have changed our minds. Science is self correcting." As if science (See SA@3) was what they were doing all along. Ambly@4:
Those comments sort of illustrate the wierdness of null hypothesis testig,[sic] but there is no indication on that page these are from evolutionary biologists, much less “Darwinists”.
No, probably not from either evolutionary biologists or Darwinists. Neither hardly ever stoops to using a non-materialist mathematics to support their science.Latemarch
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This whole post (and he journalisic cliche in the press release) seems to based entirely on conflating non-coding DNA with junk DNA. SA, Those comments sort of illustrate the wierdness of null hypothesis testig, but there is no indication on that page these are from evolutionary biologists, much less "Darwinists".Amblyrhynchus
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Even within the tests that Darwinists use there is a lot of deception. Any p-value that is greater than 0.05 means the results are not statistically significant. Even .06 - not significant. It's not a question of "really close". It either is or isn't at a 95% confidence level, which is how they set up the test.
500 different ways that contributors to scientific journals have used language to obscure their results https://mchankins.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/still-not-significant-2/
some highlights ... a certain trend toward significance (p=0.08) approached the borderline of significance (p=0.07) at the margin of statistical significance (p<0.07) close to being statistically signi?cant (p=0.055) fell just short of statistical significance (p=0.12) just very slightly missed the significance level (p=0.086) near-marginal significance (p=0.18) only slightly non-significant (p=0.0738) provisionally significant (p=0.073) quasi-significant (p=0.09)Silver Asiatic
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Kas- Darwinism is untestableET
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I've been saying for years that Darwinism is non-falsifiable, and it looks like the evidence in support of that contention is mounting. __________________ Darwin made it impossible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.Kas
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