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Oldest “bug” is 425 million years old, 75 million years earlier than expected

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It’s a millipede:

A 425-million-year-old millipede fossil from the Scottish island of Kerrera is the world’s oldest “bug” — older than any known fossil of an insect, arachnid or other related creepy-crawly, according to researchers at The University of Texas at Austin…

Bountiful bug deposits have been dated to just 20 million years later than the fossils. And by 40 million years later, there’s evidence of thriving forest communities filled with spiders, insects and tall trees…

University of Texas at Austin, “World’s oldest bug is fossil millipede from Scotland” at ScienceDaily

Paper. (paywall)

Will we all meet up at the Big Bang? Don’t rule it out.

3 Replies to “Oldest “bug” is 425 million years old, 75 million years earlier than expected

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    goodusername says:

    Oldest “Bug” Is 425 Million Years Old, 75 Million Years Earlier Than Expected

    Why do you think the millipede is 75 million years earlier than expected? Is that from this?

    The team found that the ancient millipede fossil is 425 million years old, or about 75 million years younger than the age other scientists have estimated the oldest millipede to be using a technique known as molecular clock dating, which is based on DNA’s mutation rate.

    If that’s the case, you misread it. They are expecting to find such bugs up to 75 million years OLDER than this one. And the article explains that it’s a bit of a mystery right now as to why they haven’t found older specimens, and they hypothesize that they may have evolved later than thought.

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    kairosfocus says:

    H’mm, if bug is used so loosely, fossils from the Burgess Cambrian shale were called bugs by cowboys familiar with them. That’s north of 500 MY on the usual timeline. Beyond, several precambrian fossils would be bugs in that loose sense, if a millipede is so regarded. Bugs properly are a particular and exceedingly common group of insects, six-leg exoskeleton arthropods with wings, the forewings being thickened at base. KF

    PS: Dic dot com: >>hemipterous
    [ hi-mip-ter-uh?s ]
    adjective
    belonging or pertaining to the Hemiptera, an order of insects having forewings that are thickened and leathery at the base and membranous at the apex, comprising the true bugs.>>

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    David P says:

    No offense but both of you seem to miss the point.

    The point is “Earlier Than Expected”, contradicts Darwin. His model needed vast amounts of time for things to change, That window keeps getting pushed back further and further.
    If a millipede appeared followed by 425 million years of little change, where exactly is all this slow gradual changes Darwin talked of happening? At the big bang?

    The evidence is rapid appearance followed by limited and directionless changes. Stasis is the norm. That evidence fits the ID model, it contradicts any model based on Darwin. Thus the …than expected.

    They point out unexpected results here on UD all the time. Pop science seems to think unexpected = good. Unexpected actually means something is wrong. It is only a good thing if they change. But sometime soon we will again read how some unexpected result sheds new light on Darwin’s worn out model.

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