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A couple of weeks ago a friend forwarded me a link to this recent article about “ongoing research to record the interaction of environment and evolution” by University of California, Riverside biologist David Reznick. Reznick’s team has been studying adaptive changes in guppies. Reznick’s work focuses on tracking what happens in real-world situations in the wild, rather than the somewhat artificial environments in the lab. As a result, Reznick has gathered some of the more trustworthy and definitive data about changes over time in a real-world environment, largely free from the intervention and interference of the coated lab worker.

The article states:

The new work is part of research that Reznick has been doing since 1978. It involved transplanting guppies from a river with a diverse community of predators into a river with no predators – except for one other fish species, an occasional predator – to record how the guppies would evolve and how they might impact their environment.

In the recent follow-up research, Reznick’s team studied “how male color pattern affected” their differential survival in the environment. Significantly, the team even gathered DNA from the guppies over time to track who their parents were and reconstruct a guppie pedigree to help determine the reproductive success. Without going into all the details, which are interesting in their own right, the key point for my purposes today is that this adaptive change occurred extremely quickly.

Graduate student, Swanne Gordon, noted,

Our research shows that these fish adapted to their new habitats in less than one year, or three to four generations, which is even faster than we previously thought.

Reznick adds,

People think of evolution as historical. They don’t think of it as something that’s happening under our nose. It is a contemporary process. People are skeptical; they don’t believe in evolution because they can’t see it. Here, we see it. We can see if something makes you better able to make babies and live longer.

What Really Happened?

Now normally when my friend forwards a link, I will just review the article, realize it is making claims beyond the data, and move on. But coincidentally, just days earlier I had been reading Chapter 7 of Lee Spetner’s 1998 book, Not by Chance!

Part of Spetner’s argument is that many adaptive changes we see in nature are in fact not examples of a Darwinian process of chance changes + natural selection, but instead the result of specific programming capabilities in the organism to allow it to respond to changes in the environment. Indeed, what caught my eye about the article my friend forwarded is that Spetner had discussed Reznick’s earlier experiments in that very context.

After describing two different predators of the guppies: (i) the cichlid, which prey on large mature guppies; and (ii) the killfish, which prey on small immature guppies, Spetner continues:

Reznick and his team took 200 guppies from the Aripo [river in Trinidad] and put them in a tributary of the river that is home to the killfish but has no cichlids and had no guppies. Changes soon appeared in the newly introduced guppies. The fish population soon changed to what would normally be found in the presence of the killfish, and Reznick found the changes to be heritable.

The full change in the guppy population was observed as soon as the first samples were drawn, which was after only two years. One trait studied, the age of males at maturity, achieved its terminal value in only four years. The evolutionary rate calculated from this observation is some ten million times the rate of evolution induced from observations of the fossil record [Reznick et al. 1997].

Reznick interpreted these changes as the result of natural selection acting on variation already in the population. Could natural selection have acted so fast as to change the entire population in only two years?

Spetner goes on to argue that the adaptive change observed in the guppies is more likely the result of a programmed response to environmental change, and provides several examples of such changes in other species.

Where is the Darwinian Evolution?

Darwinian evolution, as we know, is supposed to work by natural selection weeding out random variation. The Neo-Darwinian model has traditionally gone a step further, suggesting that those random variations are genetic in nature — taking place in the DNA as a copying error here, a misplaced sequence there, an accidental cut-and-paste elsewhere . . .

So the question arises: do the kinds of rapid, adaptive, reversible changes Reznick observed owe their existence to this kind of Darwinian process, or are they the result of a pre-programmed genetic response to environmental changes?

Spetner makes a good argument that we are observing the latter. He goes on to show that even many of the classical examples of Darwinian evolution — you know, the examples of random mutation + natural selection that even most evolutionary skeptics have tended to accept: convergent “evolution” of plants in similar environments, the “evolution” of bacteria to live on lactose or salicin — are not good examples of Darwinian evolution at all. Even that icon of icons, finch beaks in the Galapagos, is likely not a good example of the alleged Neo-Darwinian mechanism of random mutation + natural selection.

All of this prompts me to ask a simple, but pointed, question:

How many good examples are there of Darwinian evolution?

The more research I do the more I come to the same conclusion Spetner did, namely that most adaptive changes are not the result of the random, purposeless changes Darwinian evolution posits as the engine of biological novelty.

Even skeptics of the grand evolutionary claims tend to accept, either specifically or implicitly, that Darwinian evolution can produce all kinds of minor adaptive changes, the so-called microevolutionary changes: variations in finch beaks, insect resistance to insecticides, coloration of peppered moths, and so on. And indeed, the “selection” side of the formula seems to work well, which is simply the somewhat pedestrian observation that if an organism is poorly adapted to its environment it has a poor chance of surviving.

Yet the engine of the novelty, the alleged random variation that is supposed to provide all this adaptive variability on which selection can work its magic, seems stubbornly absent. Even these most common of examples, on closer inspection, do not support the Darwinian claim. Thus the doubts multiply. If Darwinian evolution cannot even claim explanatory credit for things like bacteria being able to metabolize lactose, what can it explain? The more closely we look, the more anemic the Darwinian claim becomes.

Now we could be intellectually lazy and call every adaptive change we observe an example of “evolution.” But the problem with observing a change and claiming that we have observed “evolution” is that (i) we rob the word of explanatory value if it is applied indiscriminately, and (ii) we trick ourselves into thinking we have an explanation for what occurred, when in fact we have have no idea what is happening at the molecular level or the organismal level to produce the change. Claiming that we are witnessing “evolution” in such circumstances becomes then not so much an explanation as a confession of ignorance.

Real Darwinian Evolution

There are no doubt quite a number of legitimate, confirmed examples of random mutation + natural selection producing an important biological effect. For example, I think Behe’s review of malaria/sickle cell trait is a legitimate example of Darwinian evolution in action. And the circumstances of that example are rather telling: (a) large population size, (b) meaningful amount of time, (c) very strong selection pressure, (d) and change that can be caused by one or two single-point mutations.

If we see adaptive change outside of these parameters — small population, short timeframe, an adaptation that requires significant genetic change — we might be better served to suspect that we are witnessing a programmed adaptive response, rather than Darwinian evolution. And rather than being naively impressed with the great power of Darwinian evolution to act more rapidly than anticipated, we should be prompted to look deeper to find what is actually taking place.

Your Turn

In addition to the malaria/sickle cell example, what other examples of legitimate, confirmed Darwinian evolution can you think of?

Comments
EugeneS: But even with the RNA world, one has to confront the same issue of symbol=matter complimentarity, in addition to the issues of RNA world itself. As RNA can act as both memory and processor, that resolves the issue.Zachriel
October 22, 2015
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"While this doesn’t ‘prove’ the hypothesis, it is strong support, and can’t be written off as just a lucky guess." Ok. Maybe. I can't say anything here really because my background is totally different. But even with the RNA world, as little as I know about it, one has to confront the same issue of symbol-matter complimentarity, in addition to the issues of RNA world itself.EugeneS
October 22, 2015
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We were referring to Crick’s 1968 hypothesis, based on RNA World, that ribosomes are ribozymes.
LoL! So ribosomes wouldn't be ribozymes absent the RNA world? Really? That has to be the most impotent correlation evah.Virgil Cain
October 22, 2015
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EugeneS: I did say that what Crick proposed was the adapter hypothesis. We were referring to Crick's 1968 hypothesis, based on RNA World, that ribosomes are ribozymes. This was only confirmed by Cech & Altman in the 1980s. http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1989/cech-article.html While this doesn't 'prove' the hypothesis, it is strong support, and can't be written off as just a lucky guess.Zachriel
October 22, 2015
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Zachriel, I think the problem is there are too many of you, guys, hiding behind the nick. I did say that what Crick proposed was the adapter hypothesis, which was what was actually verified. It could not and did not verify evolution. And that was irrespective of his motivations or justifications or whatever. That's the beauty of science for you: people do something and the result is objective (supposing it is real science and not mere grant-spending). How they themselves or anyone else may interpret it, is a different matter. The current overarching interpretation is evolutionary, I accept it as reality. But it is an interpretation and this has very little to do with what actual researchers actually do in science. Don't forget that what people actually propose in science and how even they themselves interpret it, are different things. As I say, not all of them would describe themselves as anything other than naturalists. But there you go, what they do is provide a foundation for an entirely different paradigm. Anyway, that is now my interpretation for you ) Nonetheless, it only shows that the issue of semiosis in biology is an objective one. No less and no more than that. Interpretations are not the same as facts. "von Neumann was unaware..." Even Pattee is unaware ) as he, as a naturalist probably would do, hypothesizes that symbol-matter complimentarity despite being objective is not a consequence of some ontological dualism but an emergent property of matter. Well, I am personally not happy with having the concept of emergence on the table. What is it really? What does emergence mean and how can I measure it? Can a phenomenon be half-emerged? To me, emergence is a consequence of materialistic naturalism, nothing else. Naturalists are left with this misty concept void of real meaning as the only option in a (futile) attempt to explain nature naturalistically. Information does not fit into this picture (except in some reduced form of probability, entropy and surprisal).EugeneS
October 22, 2015
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EugeneS: Not just me and not proposing but pointing to its existence. Von Neumann ... Well, apparently Von Neumann was unaware of such a barrier.
Von Neumann: Today’s organisms are phylogenetically descended from others which were vastly simpler than they are, so much simpler, in fact, that it’s inconceivable how any kind of description of the later, complex organisms could have existed in the earlier one. It’s not easy to imagine in what sense a gene, which is probably a low order affair, can contain a description of the human being which will come from it. But in this case you can say that since the gene has its effect only within another human organism, it probably need not contain a complete description of what is to happen, but only a few cues for a few alternatives. However, this is not so in phylogenetic evolution. That starts from simple entities, surrounded by an unliving amorphous milieu, and produces something more complicated. Evidently, these organisms have the ability to produce something more complicated than themselves.
While we have attempted to respond to your points, you have ignored our own, such as the success of Crick's hypothesis. Lucky guess?Zachriel
October 22, 2015
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See H.H.Pattee "The Necessity Of Biosemiotics: Matter-Symbol Complementarity".EugeneS
October 22, 2015
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Zachriel: "You are the one proposing some sort of barrier." Not just me and not proposing but pointing to its existence. Von Neumann, Wiener, Polaniy, Hoffmayer, Pattee, Abel. There is a whole number of researchers suggesting that matter-symbol complementarity is objective; that Information is objective, not subjective; that information is more than just mere combinatorialism and surprisal; that it primarily is a sequence of prescriptions for their complementary processor. No {data+prescription+processor} = no information. Wiener: Information is just information, not matter or energy. In fact, not all of those researchers are or were ready to go as far as systematically questioning their naturalistic stand. Nonetheless, they all have worked towards a whole new paradigm, a new school of thought, a new insight into life as symbolically controlled matter. An increasing number of biologists are now acknowledging that reductionism has exhausted itself and is no longer able to provide an adequate understanding of what life is.EugeneS
October 22, 2015
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wd400 is correct as mutation refers to all genetic change. The reason, Eric, is because blind watchmaker evolution is the over-riding framework. And there is plenty of evidence of organisms producing mutations in response to stimuli. Our immune system is a good example. "Random with respect to fitness" is meaningless when discussing if mutations are happenstance events, ie accidents, errors and mistakes or are they guided, planned and intentional. Do you really think that some Intelligent Designer designed living organisms, with all that they require, including a just-so planet, and not design them with the ability to adapt? Really?Virgil Cain
October 21, 2015
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Seriously, so you are now defining every genetic change in an organism as a “mutation”? Good grief.
Just me and, like, every biology textbook. And yes, there is no good evidence that organisms can produce mutations that are anything other than random with respect to fitness.wd400
October 21, 2015
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As for evidence concerning abiogenesis, it depends on all sorts of evidence, from chemistry to geology to biology, and understanding much of that requires the Theory of Evolution. For instance,
Well then please link to this alleged "Theory of Evolution" so we can get caught up on that requirement. :razz:Virgil Cain
October 21, 2015
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Zachriel:
RNA can act as memory and enzyme, including the capability of self-replication.
The self-sustained replication required two RNAs. There wasn't any "self-replication". RNA has minimal catalytic properties and unguided processes can't even explain those. "They just emerged, by golly"Virgil Cain
October 21, 2015
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EugeneS: Ignorance or lack of understanding of a real problem is hardly a justification for a simplistic model. You are the one proposing some sort of barrier. Meanwhile, Crick makes a prediction based on a bold hypothesis, and the prediction is verified. That doesn't 'prove' the hypothesis, but certainly provides support. Nor can it be explained away as merely a lucky guess.Zachriel
October 21, 2015
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"Simply does not exist" Ignorance or lack of understanding of a real problem is hardly a justification for a simplistic model. The problem is an objective one, it is not my caprice and it is being recognised as an objective issue by a school of researchers. I think your paradigm needs a major shift, Zachriel. It is not the 20th century any more.EugeneS
October 21, 2015
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Eric Anderson: We keep hearing over and over that evolutionary theory doesn’t have to address origin of life because it is a separate issue. It simply doesn't purport to do so. The Theory of Evolution is a scientific theory, and like all scientific theories is of limited domain. The Theory of Evolution constitutes what we do know, while abiogenesis is still obscure. It will take new insights to explain the origin of life and how it connects to evolutionary divergence. As for evidence concerning abiogenesis, it depends on all sorts of evidence, from chemistry to geology to biology, and understanding much of that requires the Theory of Evolution. For instance, you can't have a rational discussion about abiogenesis if you are arguing whether the Earth is 6000 years old or not. Acceptance of standard geology is essential for the discussion, and that includes the fossil succession. Furthermore, lines of descent appear to join together, and this can't be ignored as it points to a single origin. EugeneS: What Crick conjectured and was experimentally proven is very far from your characterization. Based on the hypothesis that RNA World preceded DNA World, Crick hypothesized that RNA comprised the primordial ribosome, and that the primary mechanism of modern ribosomes would also be based on RNA. This has been confirmed. EugeneS: RNAs to be of any useful size require control i.e. intelligent guidance of their chemical synthesis. RNA can act as memory and enzyme, including the capability of self-replication. Whatever barrier you are proposing simply doesn't exist.Zachriel
October 21, 2015
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Zachriel, What Crick conjectured and was experimentally proven is very far from your characterization. In fact, what happens is critically different from what you think: the effect of RNA translation (=polypeptides) is not physically determined by the trigger (=RNA codons) evoking the effect. Rather it is determined by the properties of the tRNA charged with the 'right' amino acid, where the right amino acid is the one that logically corresponds to the codon via what is universally known as genetic code. The word 'code' is not a metaphor but reflects reality whereby a configuration of matter acts as a representation, token, sign of another configuration of matter. This is the adapter hypothesis experimentally verified. Now, you have to explain how on earth it is possible for logical relationships to arise solely based on the dynamics of the particles of matter. Explain semiosis in terms of physics alone. The RNA-world is very far from what you need to show because it does not solve the original problem while raising additional problems. RNAs to be of any useful size require control i.e. intelligent guidance of their chemical synthesis. Inanimate nature (bare physics or chemistry) does not care about control. Control is about logic. Therefore the RNA-world hypothesis is self-referential. It assumes what it purports to demonstrate. Good luck!EugeneS
October 21, 2015
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Mapou, I hope you've moved on, but if not, please desist. It isn't helpful to the discussion.Eric Anderson
October 20, 2015
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Zachriel @318:
They can’t be unlinked.
This, despite the numerous attempts by evolutionists to uncouple the two? We keep hearing over and over that evolutionary theory doesn't have to address origin of life because it is a separate issue. In addition one might just as easily argue that the evidence should run the opposite direction from what you are requiring. Namely, if a materialistic origin of life cannot get off the ground then the materialistic origins story is in serious trouble. Requiring someone to believe a materialistic evolutionary post-origins history of life before you are willing to discuss how the initial organisms could have come about in the first place is certainly a strange approach. Oh, well. I tried. The offer stands if you ever change your mind.Eric Anderson
October 20, 2015
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wd400: Seriously, so you are now defining every genetic change in an organism as a "mutation"? Good grief. I can't tell whether you are hung up on a definition or whether you are actually making a substantive claim that no genetic changes occur in organisms that are not random mutations. Do you think it is true that there are no genetic changes in organisms that are not random mutations?Eric Anderson
October 20, 2015
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Mapou:
Now get your head our of your atheist rear end and say something truly intelligent for a change. And get off that white horse. It does not belong to you, goddammit.
Another comment from you that kids could look up to.Carpathian
October 20, 2015
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Yes, Carpathian, theology doesn't need morons asking irrelevant questions and getting all belligerent like a little child.Virgil Cain
October 20, 2015
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Carpie, if there is bully beating up a kid with a baseball bat and a good Samaritan comes along and kills the bully, the kid would cheer. I know I would. All atheists are lying bullies who are hellbent on imposing their crap religion on the entire world. It is not going to happen. Ever. Now get your head our of your atheist rear end and say something truly intelligent for a change. And get off that white horse. It does not belong to you, goddammit.Mapou
October 20, 2015
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So Carpathian just don't like Christians..... I'm sure he thanks God everyday that he is not like those Christians.Andre
October 20, 2015
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Mapou:
Pack it, Carpie. Children would cheer if they saw David cut that jackass Goliath’s head off.
Are you actually saying that you think children would benefit from watching a beheading? If this is supposed to be funny, it's not.Carpathian
October 20, 2015
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Virgil Cain:
Theists do not want Carpathian.
True. The last thing a theology needs is people who ask questions, especially questions a theology is not equipped to answer.Carpathian
October 20, 2015
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Pack it, Carpie. Children would cheer if they saw David cut that jackass Goliath's head off.Mapou
October 20, 2015
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Mapou:
I don’t care.
Of course you don't. If you cared about what others, such as children and young students think, you wouldn't set such a bad example. The irony is that you aren't a moral-compass-lacking atheist, but one of the "good" guys.Carpathian
October 20, 2015
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Theists do not want Carpathian.Virgil Cain
October 20, 2015
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Carpie @319, I don't care.Mapou
October 20, 2015
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Mapou:
You’re pissing me off, Zachriel. I’m out of this discussion. I got better things to do. May you throw a clot or something, jackass.
If being a theist allows one to make statements like this, I hope I never become one.Carpathian
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