Sign me up for the next Dawkins cruise

_{William Dembski

September 9, 2005

Darwinism, Evolution}

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Thanks Bombadill for alerting me to this photo (that’s Richard Dawkins on the left, Steve Aldrich on the right). To view all the festivities of the 2004 Center for Inquiry cruise, go here.

Imagine someone putting a gun to your head and forcing you to go on this cruise. Imagine you died and woke up in hell. But I repeat myself.

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Bill - it's really not clear to me why Dawkins' cynicism needs to be exposed. Dawkins is cynical. So what. when You write: "Imagine someone putting a gun to your head and forcing you to go on this cruise. Imagine you died and woke up in hell. But I repeat myself." I do not think you are at your best when you write something like that. This sort of tit-for-tat comment does not, at least, impress me. But I am personally very impressed with your work. I've read much of it and remain very grateful for what you are doing. Expose Dawkins' arguments, not his cynicism.John Piippo_{September 10, 2005
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Okay, everyone, let's lighten up. Teleologist: I'll let you explanation ride. But "Nazi" ranks 10+ on the emotive scale, typically escalating a thread to the max and rendering it inoperative. John Piippo: The cynicism is on Dawkins part and it deserves to be exposed, with heavy irony if necessary.William Dembski_{September 10, 2005
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If I get banned then I get banned but just to set the record straight. Please do not try to compare my comment of NAZI to PT's ad hom. My point of the slogan was not to mean that Atheists are NAZI but a protest to Dawkins's T-shirt, which I made perfectly clear. His T-shirt is an insult and antithetical to my personal belief. I didn't find anyone complaining that Dawkins's T-shirt was an ad hominem attack on Christianity. As ridiculous as the slogan of "NAZIS for Atheists" is, so too is the slogan "Atheists for Jesus". That was the only point that I was making. If I am banned as least please don't delete my explanation here.teleologist_{September 10, 2005
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While I remain quite interested in the growing objections to macroevolutionary theory as well as the young efforts of ID, I do not appreciate the cynicism in this post and the ad hominmen abusive, "panda's thumb" quality of the comments. Please do not descend with modification into a panda's thumb-type of "dialogue."John Piippo_{September 10, 2005
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I think that Dawkins is a pretty funny guy and he is a very articulate writer. I completely disagree with him, but I give him credit for his sense of humor. People do need to understand that secular humanism is funded by Marxism as well as Rationalism (Rand). The link is impossible to defeat. I am curious if anyone has ever heard the debate between Paul Kurtz and Norman Geisler? Geisler really crushes him... DanDan_{September 10, 2005
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What is it with the Nazi thing? This line of name calling goes all directions and it is tiresome. Evolutionists aren't Nazis, Creationists aren't Nazis, IDists aren't Nazis, Republicans aren't Nazis, Democrats aren't Nazis. The only one that comes even close to Nazi-hood is Walmart. [Any more Nazi comments on this thread, and you're out of here (and that applies to you Hank as well vis-a-vis Walmart. --WmAD]hlwarren_{September 9, 2005
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They make a lovely couple. A lovely couple of GIRLY MEN! :-)DaveScot_{September 9, 2005
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izs, Well yeah, the individual that you mention and the other one adduced by Dr. Dembski both appear in the next picture as if taken from a famous odd family in an U.S. TV show: http://www.centerforinquiry.net/cruise/archives/images/127.jpg That ones and Hollywood's people should be only for our entertainment, don't you think? Have a lovely weekend!Fer_{September 9, 2005
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AH.. the A-team of Atheistic evangelism. As a counter to DawkinsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s T-shirt I suggest Ã¢â‚¬Å“NAZIS for AtheistsÃ¢â‚¬Â. And my old friend Paul Kurtz, The Secular Humanist Prospect: In Historical Perspective
The third factor that emerged to challenge freethought and the secular movement was the near-total collapse of Marxism. For a good part of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, Marxist-humanist ideals had influenced intellectuals; with MarxismÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s eclipse, anticlericalism and indeed any open criticism of religion have all but disappeared.
So for the secular humanist Marxism is good because it was anticlerical. Marxism also brought us communism and totalitarianism of the Soviet Union and MaoÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s China, where the belief of those who disagree with them are evil. Evil must be eradicated to the tune of 61 million in the Soviet and 35 Million in China.teleologist_{September 9, 2005
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It's funny to see Dawkins' wearing an "atheists for Jesus" tee-shirt.AmosJesus_{September 9, 2005
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Average age there looks higher than _____. (fill in the blank) ;) I'm all for people calling themselves skeptics getting together, but it needs to be done right. In grad school, I joined the skeptic group at my university- for like 5 days before I left never to come back. They told us how great Kurtz was, how we needed to support the skeptical movement, ranted against religion, and offered us Free Inquiry magazines. It was very strange, and there wasn't much (non-hypocritical) thinking going on. Infinitely better thinking came from the science classes.jzs_{September 9, 2005
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