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At Mind Matters News: Astronomer says, ET is more likely to be AI than to be a life form

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It’s a fine-tuning issue. Royal astronomer Lord Martin Rees explains that, apart from other issues, AI would last much longer in the hostile galactic environment:

Prominent British Royal Society astronomer Martin Rees thinks that thinking that ET will turn out to be AI:

“Human technological civilisation only dates back millennia (at most) – and it may be only one or two more centuries before humans, made up of organic materials such as carbon, are overtaken or transcended by inorganic intelligence, such as AI. Computer processing power is already increasing exponentially, meaning AI in the future may be able to use vastly more data than it does today. It seems to follow that it could then get exponentially smarter, surpassing human general intelligence.”

News, “Astronomer: ET is more likely to be AI than to be a life form” at Mind Matters News

Takehome: In that case, not to worry about them. If the extraterrestrials are AI, they may simply reiterate indefinitely the programs they were designed to execute long ago — we must hope, friendly ones.


Rees and colleagues assume that artificial intelligences can be creative thinkers. But the evidence so far is against that view. It’s not necessarily a matter of just ramping up the technology. By their very nature, computers compute but creative thinking is largely non-computational. We should keep that in mind when we encounter breathless media releases claiming to have overcome the problem. Also, the claim that artificial intelligence can simply evolve into artificial superintelligence stumbles on the No Free Lunch theorem…


You may also wish to read:

Does creativity just mean Bigger Data? Or something else? Michael Egnor and Robert J. Marks look at claims that artificial intelligence can somehow be taught to be creative. The problem with getting AI to understand causation, as opposed to correlation, has led to many spurious correlations in data driven papers.

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3.How can we be sure we are not just an ET’s simulation? A number of books and films are based on the Planetarium hypothesis. Should we believe it? We make a faith-based decision that logic and evidence together are reasonable guides to what is true. Logical possibility alone does not make an idea true.

4 Replies to “At Mind Matters News: Astronomer says, ET is more likely to be AI than to be a life form

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    polistra says:

    Bacteria and tardigrades survive in an unpressurized spaceship. Seeds can remain viable for thousands of years. There’s no reason to assume that a larger life form couldn’t use the same tricks.

    Rees isn’t exhibiting a HUMAN level of imagination.

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    chuckdarwin says:

    “Human imagination” or not, if as relativity tells is, nothing can travel faster than light and the nearest star is 4+ lightyears away, this is a no brainer. Even Methuselah wouldn’t survive the trip…..

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    bornagain77 says:

    ^^^^

    Huh?, a Darwinist corrects someone else for using TOO MUCH imagination? 🙂

    But TOO MUCH imagination is PRECISELY the primary problem that Darwinists are most guilty of.

    Sociobiology: The Art of Story Telling – Stephen Jay Gould – 1978 – New Scientist
    Excerpt: Rudyard Kipling asked how the leopard got its spots, the rhino its wrinkled skin. He called his answers “Just So stories”. When evolutionists study individual adaptations, when they try to explain form and behaviour by reconstructing history and assessing current utility, they also tell just so stories – and the agent is natural selection.
    Virtuosity in invention replaces testability as the criterion for acceptance.
    https://books.google.com/books?id=tRj7EyRFVqYC&pg=PA530

    Oct. 2021: – In short, it is easy for Darwinists to deceive themselves and others with their imaginative ‘just-so stories’ for how this or that trait may have evolved, but putting those imaginative ‘just-so stories’ to the test is other matter entirely.,,,
    ,,,in conclusion, Darwinists, intentionally or not, constantly confuse their imaginary ‘just-so stories’ with actual empirical science. Darwinists simply have no evidence that Darwinian processes can create anything, not even a single protein, much less do they have any evidence that Darwinian processes can actually produce any particular trait in question, such as the intricacies of the birth canal.
    https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/twisted-human-birth-canal-evolved-to-be-good-design/#comment-739510

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    Joe Schooner says:

    If ETs have reached earth, they are probably just probes. Possibly with advanced AIs. This; however, presupposes that the living ETs have similar needs to life on earth. Leaving aside the life span issue, the amount of resources they would need to survive such a trip would be prohibitive.

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