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retirement planning for Darwin’s followers

Further to science ideas ready for retirement, Philip Cunningham draws attention to a curious admission on the part of Wired’s Kevin Kelly: His idea to retire is “fully random mutations:”

So to be clear: the evidence shows that chance plays a primary role in mutations, and there would be no natural selection without chance. But it is not random chance. It is loaded chance, with multiple constraints, multi-point biases, numerous clustering effects, and skewed distributions.

He considers the question of why the assumption of “random mutation” persists and notes that it was “a philosophical necessity to combat the erroneous earlier idea of inherited acquired traits, or what is commonly called Lamarckian evolution.” Today, we call it horizontal gene transfer, and many researchers would be surprised to hear it considered an erroneous idea.

As a rough first-order approximation, random mutation works pretty well as an intellectual and experimental framework. But the lack of direct evidence for actual random mutations has now reached a stage where the idea needs to be retired.

There are several related reasons why this unsubstantiated idea continues to be repeated without evidence. The first is fear that non-random mutations would be misunderstood and twisted by creationists to wrongly deny the reality and importance of evolution by natural selection. The second is that if mutations are not random and have some pattern, than that pattern creates a micro-direction in evolution. And since biological evolution is nothing but micro actions accumulating into macro actions, these micro-patterns leave open the possibility of macro directions in evolution. That raises all kinds of red flags. If there are evolutionary macro-directions, where do they originate? And what are the directions? To date, there is little consensus about evidence for macro-directions in evolution beyond an increase in complexity, but the very notion of evolution with any direction is so contrary to current dogma in modern evolution theory that it continues to embrace the assumption of randomness.

This is a beaut, a keeper, a classic. In short, biologists must be wrong in thinking that there is no direction to evolution but admitting that is too controversial? So they have to keep it quiet by misrepresenting to the rest of us what “random evolution” means? Or if Kelly doesn’t mean that, what does he mean?

I guess that is as much intellectual openness or curiosity as one could expect from Darwin’s latter day followers. In fairness, they probably don’t even understand people whose standards for both qualities are just plain higher.

And it’s not just some of the ideas that need to retire.

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In my opinion, the term "random mutation" is acceptable in the sense that it suggests that there's no intelligent planning or implicit direction. The term is misleading in the sense that the sources/types of mutations make a difference--that not all mutations are equally likely. -QQuerius
January 22, 2014
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wd400,
The randomness of mutation refers to the fact mutations are random with respect to their fitness (ie, animals can’t induce particular mutations that are likely to benifit their offspring).
This is really a strange definition. According to this, a mutation that only ever occurs in the same exact loci over millions of years would still technically be "random" because the mutation is not induced for fitness. I'm pretty sure I have never heard any evolutionist define the randomness of mutation this way.lifepsy
January 22, 2014
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as to wd400 trying to defect attention away from the happenstance/accidental (unguided) nature of the word random, especially as it is used in neo-Darwinian evolution. The unguided, happenstance, definition of the word random is a core theoretical mandate in the naturalist's worldview
"Random: A Carefully Selected Word" Dr. Michael Behe - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-MuGUVWeFs Unguided or Not? How Do Darwinian Evolutionists Define Their Theory? – Casey Luskin – August 11, 2012 Excerpt: While many new atheists undoubtedly make poor philosophers, the “unguided” nature of Darwinian evolution is not a mere metaphysical “add on.” Rather, it’s a core part of how the theory of Darwinian evolution has been defined by its leading proponents. Unfortunately, even some eminent theistic and intelligent design-friendly philosophers appear unaware of the history and scientific development of neo-Darwinian theory. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/08/unguided_or_not_1063191.html
bornagain77
January 22, 2014
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wd400 and gpuccio at 8 through 10: Kelly writes at Wired and he was writing FOR The Edge. One senses that he knows how Darwinians think (and generally agrees with them, and seems to think they agree with him on this). It's not clear he would be heard from in either venue if it were all as doubtful as you are representing here.News
January 22, 2014
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wd400:
The randomness of mutation refers to the fact mutations are random with respect to their fitness (ie, animals can’t induce particular mutations that are likely to benifit their offspring).
That is incorrect. The randomness refers to their happenstance/ accidental nature-
The first step in selection, the production of genetic variation, is almost exclusively a chance phenomenon except that the nature of the changes at a given locus is strongly constrained. Chance plays an important role even at the second step, the process of elimination of the less fit individuals. Chance may be particularly important in the haphazard survival during periods of mass extinction.- Mayr WEI page 281
Joe
January 22, 2014
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gpuccio- Ernst Mayr basically says the same thing in "What Evolution Is"- ie that natural selection is non-random because what lives and what is eliminated is not form a uniform distribution:
Not all individuals have an equal probability for survival because the individuals that have properties making their survival more probable are a restricted non-random component of the population.-page 118 WEI
Darwin's alleged designer mimic is nothing but a mirage.Joe
January 22, 2014
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wd400:
Kelly doesn’t come off as someone who knows what he is talking about here – the fact there are non-random patterns in mutations (including spatial, directional and temporal patterns) has long been known. The randomness of mutation refers to the fact mutations are random with respect to their fitness (ie, animals can’t induce particular mutations that are likely to benifit their offspring).
For once, I perfectly agree with you. I would add that any genomic variation due to some physical process, and particularly to biochemical laws, is necessarily random with respect to the functional information implied, for example, by a functional protein sequence, for the simple fact that physical laws and biochemical laws that generate variation in the genome have no way of knowing what kind of sequence will generate protein functionality. Unless, obviously, the variation is designed.gpuccio
January 22, 2014
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I have rarely read such a confused and misleading piece of thought. I think that both IDists and neo darwinists can equally be irritated by it, and that is really something! Just as a curiosity, why should a skewed distribution be non random? Is the author convinced (like many) that only a uniform distribution, or maybe a normal distribution, can be considered a random distribution? Maybe just reading on wikipedia the list of probability distributions could help...gpuccio
January 22, 2014
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Why do evolutionists "fear that non-random mutations would be misunderstood and twisted by creationists". I can't speak for "evolutionists", but evolutionary biologits don't. Kelly doesn't come off as someone who knows what he is talking about here - the fact there are non-random patterns in mutations (including spatial, directional and temporal patterns) has long been known. The randomness of mutation refers to the fact mutations are random with respect to their fitness (ie, animals can't induce particular mutations that are likely to benifit their offspring). This is the sort of thing you'd hope an undergrad could see through, why Edge thought it was worth including I can't imagine.wd400
January 22, 2014
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"To date, there is little consensus about evidence for macro-directions in evolution beyond an increase in complexity" I can't count the number of evolutionist who when I debate them would say that evolution is not goal oriented so the mutations aren't trying to increase complexity in the organism. They say evolution is random, not increasing complexity at all. Apparently the article in the OP disagrees.sixthbook
January 22, 2014
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Random Mutations? We ain't got no Random Mutations. We don't need no Random Mutations. I don't have to show you any stinking Random Mutations! :)
We don't need no stinking badges! - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
That's right folks, Darwinists don't need no stinking Random Mutations;
Revisiting the Central Dogma in the 21st Century – James A. Shapiro – 2009 Excerpt (Page 12): Underlying the central dogma and conventional views of genome evolution was the idea that the genome is a stable structure that changes rarely and accidentally by chemical fluctuations (106) or replication errors. This view has had to change with the realization that maintenance of genome stability is an active cellular function and the discovery of numerous dedicated biochemical systems for restructuring DNA molecules.(107–110) Genetic change is almost always the result of cellular action on the genome. These natural processes are analogous to human genetic engineering,,, (Page 14) Genome change arises as a consequence of natural genetic engineering, not from accidents. Replication errors and DNA damage are subject to cell surveillance and correction. When DNA damage correction does produce novel genetic structures, natural genetic engineering functions, such as mutator polymerases and nonhomologous end-joining complexes, are involved. Realizing that DNA change is a biochemical process means that it is subject to regulation like other cellular activities. Thus, we expect to see genome change occurring in response to different stimuli (Table 1) and operating nonrandomly throughout the genome, guided by various types of intermolecular contacts (Table 1 of Ref. 112). http://shapiro.bsd.uchicago.edu/Shapiro2009.AnnNYAcadSciMS.RevisitingCentral%20Dogma.pdf
And Darwinists also don't need no stinking Natural Selection:
“Although living things occupy a three-dimensional space, their internal physiology and anatomy operate as if they were four-dimensional. Quarter-power scaling laws are perhaps as universal and as uniquely biological as the biochemical pathways of metabolism, the structure and function of the genetic code and the process of natural selection.,,, The conclusion here is inescapable, that the driving force for these invariant scaling laws cannot have been natural selection.” Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piatelli-Palmarini, What Darwin Got Wrong (London: Profile Books, 2010), p. 78-79 https://uncommondescent.com/evolution/16037/
And Darwinists also don't need no stinking Mathematical foundation:
Active Information in Metabiology – Winston Ewert, William A. Dembski, Robert J. Marks II – 2013 Except page 9: (Gregory) Chaitin states [3], “For many years I have thought that it is a mathematical scandal that we do not have proof that Darwinian evolution works.” In fact, mathematics has consistently demonstrated that undirected Darwinian evolution does not work. http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/view/BIO-C.2013.4/BIO-C.2013.4
Shoot, Darwinists don't need no stinking empirical evidence whatsoever:
The Capabilities of Chaos and Complexity: David L. Abel - Null Hypothesis For Information Generation - 2009 Excerpt of conclusion pg. 42: "To focus the scientific community’s attention on its own tendencies toward overzealous metaphysical imagination bordering on “wish-fulfillment,” we propose the following readily falsifiable null hypothesis, and invite rigorous experimental attempts to falsify it: “Physicodynamics cannot spontaneously traverse The Cybernetic Cut: physicodynamics alone cannot organize itself into formally functional systems requiring algorithmic optimization, computational halting, and circuit integration.” A single exception of non trivial, unaided spontaneous optimization of formal function by truly natural process would falsify this null hypothesis." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662469/
That's right folks, Darwinists don't need any stinking thing at all to declare that their theory is beyond reproach from any finding whatsoever and that you are an IDiot for not believing them.
Talking Evolution With Evolutionists - Cornelius Hunter - December 2011 Excerpt: "Like the cultist I spoke with, evolutionists are certain even though the facts do not support such certainty.,,," "You can present the facts, you can walk through the logic, you can review the experiments, and you can tally up the findings. It doesn’t matter. It never did matter because, ultimately, evolution never was about the science." http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2011/12/talking-evolution-with-evolutionists.html
Verse and Music:
2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. Evanescence - Lies Lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xx36Bfg4gE
bornagain77
January 22, 2014
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drc466 @4, Excellent point.Mapou
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Q: Why do evolutionists
fear that non-random mutations would be misunderstood and twisted by creationists to wrongly deny the reality and importance of evolution by natural selection.
?? As evolutionary scientists, shouldn't what creationists think be irrelevant? Who could fear such a harmless, crackpot crew? A: They don't fear creationists, they fear "fellow" evolutionists. Any scientific fact or theory* that provides support for the creationist viewpoint is used as a Hammer, not by creationists, but by rabid gatekeepers of evolution (think Myers, Coyne) to beat the scientist revealing that fact/proposing that theory either a) into submission or b) out of a job. This admission is another excellent indictment of how the evolutionary establishment works to stifle open and free inquiry, and thus, scientific advancement itself. *Tuning of the universe. Dino DNA. Fossil record stasis. Functionality of the entire DNA. Epigenetics. ID Theory. Et cetera ad nauseam.drc466
January 22, 2014
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The "importance" of natural selection is contrived. Yes differential reproduction due to heritable happenstance variation, ie natural selection, exists, it's just that it has never been observed doing anything beyond that-> differential reproduction due to heritable happenstance variation. I don't see the importance to that and no one has been able to demonstrate any importance. Also Dr Spetner has already proposed a "non-random evolutionary hypothesis" in "Not By Chance"- a book that should be required reading for anyone involved in this debate.Joe
January 22, 2014
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This was always the main reason behind Darwinian evolution: a hatred of Christianity, especially Christian fundamentalists. Science is always subservient to the political and ideological goals of atheists/materialists/Darwinists. But then again, the same can be said for some Christian fundamentalists. In the process, scientific progress takes a dive. Telling it like I see it, as always.Mapou
January 22, 2014
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There are several related reasons why this unsubstantiated idea continues to be repeated without evidence. The first is fear that non-random mutations would be misunderstood and twisted by creationists to wrongly deny the reality and importance of evolution by natural selection.
Translation: We are intentionally obscuring and misrepresenting scientific data in order to deny any comfort to our political enemies.lifepsy
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