Sarah Palin: Just say NO … to Copenhagen

_{William Dembski

December 5, 2009

Climate change, Global Warming}

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Mr. President: Boycott Copenhagen; Investigate Your Climate Change “Experts”

The president’s decision to attend the international climate conference in Copenhagen needs to be reconsidered in light of the unfolding Climategate scandal. The leaked e-mails involved in Climategate expose the unscientific behavior of leading climate scientists who deliberately destroyed records to block information requests, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and conspired to silence the critics of man-made global warming. I support Senator James Inhofe’s call for a full investigation into this scandal. Because it involves many of the same personalities and entities behind the Copenhagen conference, Climategate calls into question many of the proposals being pushed there, including anything that would lead to a cap and tax plan.

Policy should be based on sound science, not snake oil. I took a stand against such snake oil science when I sued the federal government over its decision to list the polar bear as an endangered species despite the fact that the polar bear population has increased. I’ve never denied the reality of climate change; in fact, I was the first governor to create a subcabinet position to deal specifically with the issue. I saw the impact of changing weather patterns firsthand while serving as governor of our only Arctic state. But while we recognize the effects of changing water levels, erosion patterns, and glacial ice melt, we cannot primarily blame man’s activities for the earth’s cyclical weather changes. The drastic economic measures being pushed by dogmatic environmentalists won’t change the weather, but will dramatically change our economy for the worse.

Policy decisions require real science and real solutions, not junk science and doomsday scare tactics pushed by an environmental priesthood that capitalizes on the public’s worry and makes them feel that owning an SUV is a “sin” against the planet. In his inaugural address, President Obama declared his intention to “restore science to its rightful place.” Boycotting Copenhagen while this scandal is thoroughly investigated would send a strong message that the United States government will not be a party to fraudulent scientific practices. Saying no to Copenhagen and cap and tax are first steps in “restoring science to its rightful place.”

– Sarah Palin

Comments

----IrynaB: "But the testimony of Obama and his relatives, and David Letterman, that he was born in the US is not enough? It seems like you have a double standard." Not really. I, and millions of others, have good reason to believe that Obama has no birth cirtificate and that he is not a United States citizen. On the other hand, I, nor anyone else, has any good reason for believing that Levi Johnston is not the father of Bristol Palin's child. Further, the import of the first point is, oh, say, a million times more important that the import of the second point. Further still, the press cares not a whit about the first point, which, again, is of major consequence, while it obsesses endlessly over the second point, which shouldn't matter at all. Why is that? Clearly, it is because the media's roster is filled with news-making, career busting, career bolstering partisans who love Barak Obama and hate Sarah Palin.StephenB_{December 7, 2009
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Obama was never able to present a legit proof of his US birth because one does not exist. Almost any person born in the US could present proof of their birth if they were being sworn in as president. So the bottom line is Obama was not born in the US and he is a fraud. It is not my opinion but it is just the best inference form the evidence. And the fact that the supreme court did not oppose him on this issue is outrageous. It prove what i have always said about even the conservative justices- which is they, like Obama, are more about themselves than what it is right. The constitution is clear that you cannot be president unless you were born in the US. And quite frankly the fruits of Obama’s presidency so far have only confirmed his inadequacy. He is pushing a ridiculous commitment to reducing US greenhouse gasses in the face of the fact that the science does not show that man's emissions contribute in any significant degree to climate change- and he is pushing for a death care bill which will not only overrun the already overrun hospitals but will force people who cant find a job to buy healthcare- which is completely and totally unconstitutional- and furthermore he is spending the US into a hole of debt so deep that it will not take too much more to spiral the US into a currency crises- that could result in a dictatorship- or fascistic result- similar to what happened in Russia and Germany. Obama is totally unqualified and illegitimate. This is not my personal opinion, it is just an honest inference from the abundance of facts of only his first year as president. And everyone should be concerned and outraged by what his administration wants to do to the model responsible in large part for the most successful county in history of the world. And as they meet now to discuss the political "consensus" that greenhouse gasses need to be regulated-- we need to call out these politicians and special interests as the LIARS that they are; the DISCUSTING liars that they are. And Obama is just a total fraud to support this treaty in the face of all the facts now released about the phony computer models and the "behind the scenes" truth about politics and interests which are the REAL support for the AGW theory. These truths are the same ones that the AGW skeptics have been claiming for years only now totally and completely confirmed by smoking gun evidence.Frost122585_{December 7, 2009
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But the testimony of Obama and his relatives, and David Letterman, that he was born in the US is not enough?
Iryna, I would add that the Linda Lingle, the Republican governor of Hawaii (also an active Bush 2004 and McCain 2008 campaigner), has stated unequivocally that Obama was born in Hawaii. But, I am willing to bet that will be insufficient for our friend Stephen.hummus man_{December 7, 2009
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StephenB:
I would settle for a birth certificate.
But how would you know it's real?
Because Sarah, Bristol, the father himself, and David Letterman all testify to his identity.
But the testimony of Obama and his relatives, and David Letterman, that he was born in the US is not enough? It seems like you have a double standard.IrynaB_{December 7, 2009
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----IrynaB: "What evidence do you need to know that Obama is a US citizen?" I would settle for a birth certificate. ----How do you know who is the father of Sara Palin’s grandchild? Because Sarah, Bristol, the father himself, and David Letterman all testify to his identity.StephenB_{December 7, 2009
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Correction @41: Evan Thomas, Obama supporter and the author of "A Long Time Coming, is a staff member for Newsweek. The editor, John Meacham, wrote the prologue.StephenB_{December 7, 2009
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StephenB:
We still don’t even know if Obama is a United States Citizen, but we certainly know who fathered Sara Palin’s grandchild.
Wow, I didn't know this. I assume you are serious, so I ask you: What evidence do you need to know that Obama is a US citizen? How do you know who is the father of Sara Palin's grandchild?IrynaB_{December 7, 2009
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---hummus man: "Well, my apologies. I didn’t realize I was obligated to respond to everything you say. I thought we were just joking around in good humor. But, since you seem intent on being unpleasant and confrontational, allow me to rebut your point in 35 by asking what rock you were living under last year?" Sorry, I didn't mean to get your dander up. I am all for good humor, and I hate to be a spoil sport. However, the fact that the press chose to help get Obama elected and also chose to savage Sarah Palin is not exactly a peripheral issue. Have you forgotten that the Palin bashing began again, in earnest, on this thread? ----"All through the Democratic primaries and the Presidential campaign, you couldn’t pick up a newspaper, turn on the TV, or browse the internet without being bombarded with William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, community activisim, long form birth certificates, that Obama attended an Indonesian madrassas as Barry Soetero, that his middle name is Hussien, that he had some sweetheart real estate deal in Chicago. Heck, the media even gave airtime to some nutjob that said he smoked crack and had gay relations with Obama in the back of a limousine. The only think the media didn’t dig into (mercifully) was whether he wore boxers or briefs." The "mainstream media" completely ignored Obama's academic record, made nothing of his lack of executive experience, covered up Ayers and Wright, and did nothing to hold Obama accountable for his training in the techiques of Saul Alinsky. All his pals are either Marxists or Liberation theologians, which is another name for Marxists who use Christianity as a cover. Objective studies have been conducted which show that quantitatively, there were far more pro-Obama, more "Joe just being Joe" broadcasts [everytime he said something monumentally stupid that escaped their protective cucoon], than negative, as opposed to the reverse trend for McCain and Palin, and, qualitatively, it has been shown that broadcast journalits loved Obama and wouldn't dream of holding him accountable for anything. Chris Matthews said Obama gave him a "thrill up his leg." When Katie Couric interviewed Biden, she gave him pass after pass, even though his comments were, at time, unbelievably naive. In that same context, she probed Palin for every weakness imaginable and seized on every perceived opportunity. If you are intersted in the facts, check out "A Slobbering Love Affair," by Bernard Goldberg. Or, if you want evidence from the other side, read, "A long time coming," from Newsweek's editor, Evan Thomas. The title of the book speaks for itself. Then again, there is my original point. Why was Bristol Palin an issue at all? Never mind, I will answer the question for you. The idea was to hurt, and to continue hurting, anyone who challenges the liberal orthodoxy, the same bunch that you claim vetted Obama, which they obviously did not. We still don't even know if Obama is a United States Citizen, but we certainly know who fathered Sara Palin's grandchild. How's that for getting our priorities straight?StephenB_{December 7, 2009
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#39 Newswriters across the nation quietly smile. (fooled another one...easy)Upright BiPed_{December 7, 2009
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And now back to my point @35, which you conveniently ignored. It’s called tuning in to the periphery while tuning out from the main argument.
Well, my apologies. I didn't realize I was obligated to respond to everything you say. I thought we were just joking around in good humor. But, since you seem intent on being unpleasant and confrontational, allow me to rebut your point in 35 by asking what rock you were living under last year? All through the Democratic primaries and the Presidential campaign, you couldn't pick up a newspaper, turn on the TV, or browse the internet without being bombarded with William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, community activisim, long form birth certificates, that Obama attended an Indonesian madrassas as Barry Soetero, that his middle name is Hussien, that he had some sweetheart real estate deal in Chicago. Heck, the media even gave airtime to some nutjob that said he smoked crack and had gay relations with Obama in the back of a limousine. The only think the media didn't dig into (mercifully) was whether he wore boxers or briefs. All this, and more, was out there day after day after day from February through November. And yet none of it stuck, individually or in toto. So, I am not really sure one more article about the Woods Fund would have tipped the balance.hummus man_{December 7, 2009
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----hummus man: "Accusing someone of running for President of being arrogant and power-hungry is like accusing water of being wet. It pretty much requires a touch of megalomania to even contemplate taking on a job of that enormity." Agreed. And now back to my point @35, which you conveniently ignored. It's called tuning in to the periphery while tuning out from the main argument.StephenB_{December 7, 2009
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If the press had researched Obama, a power-hungry ideologue who lusted after the world’s most prestigious job, with the same rigor that it researched Bristol Palin, who was running for nothing and just wanted to be left the hell alone, Obama would not be president.
Accusing someone of running for President of being arrogant and power-hungry is like accusing water of being wet. It pretty much requires a touch of megalomania to even contemplate taking on a job of that enormity.hummus man_{December 7, 2009
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They are accusing her of being stupid because she’s a threat to their sense of intellectual superiority
Well, I will say that her grip on foreign policy is better than mine. After all, even when I lived in Upstate New York it was usually too hazy to see Canada across Lake Ontario.hummus man_{December 7, 2009
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If the press had researched Obama, a power-hungry ideologue who lusted after the world's most prestigious job, with the same rigor that it researched Bristol Palin, who was running for nothing and just wanted to be left the hell alone, Obama would not be president.StephenB_{December 7, 2009
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I think it's important to understand that nobody is accusing Sarah Palin of being stupid because she actually is stupid. They are accusing her of being stupid because she's a threat to their sense of intellectual superiority. In my book, that's the opposite of stupid. Generally if you want to know who is the biggest threat to a group of people, all you have to do is find out who they hate the most.tragic mishap_{December 7, 2009
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Seversky, Jerry is right. Obama wrote two memoirs, but never anything of substance about constitutional law. Your quote:
As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron
Is absurd elitist claptrap. The "plain folks of the land" are nothing to belittle. This is what our Republic was intended to be, a government of the people. It is elitist absurdity that would equate "plain folks of the land" with voting-in a moron. The plain folks of the land voted for every single one of our presidents. Andrew Jackson comes to mind, in which the elite thought that he was the epitome of the unwashed masses and that the White House had been adorned by a moron. But they were wrong. Just as they were wrong about Bush. You know, Seversky, on a personal note, you, quite frankly, epitomize everything that I think is wrong with our current culture. I engage you because I want to help you. But, I'm not sure if it's just a lost cause, because almost everything you write I think is wrong, and demonstrably wrong. Clive Hayden_{December 6, 2009
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Seversky, You are truly desperate. We could go on and on about the stupidity of people especially our current president and his vice president who have made all number of gaffes but never gets played up in the press. Remember when Obama said the 57 states of America or the way to solve the gasoline price problem was to inflate your tires properly. "The Mencken quote that was used against George W Bush:" George Bush had higher test scores than both Al Gore and John Kerry and flew jet fighters which is one of the highest skill occupations in the world. I would bet he had much higher scores than Obama who will not release a single line of his academic history. So get a life and maybe you will say something coherent some time. As I said you tend to be desperate in everything you say.jerry_{December 6, 2009
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JDH @ 7
To claim that she offered the fact that you could see Russia from Alaska as a complete justification for foreign policy experience is to make up something as ridiculous as believing that VP Joe Biden thinks JOBS has three letters ( even though he said it during the campaign ) or the President Obama thinks we have more than 57 states ( as he also stated during an interview ).
Everybody stumbles once in a while, that is not a problem, unless it it is habitual rather than occasional. Need I remind you of another of her episodes of foot-in-mouth:
"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe" -- here the audience interrupted Palin with applause and cheers -- "We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom."
Not only did she manage to give offense to the large numbers of Americans who do not live in small towns by implying that they are not truly pro-American or patriotic but she was also apparently oblivious to the irony of talking about patriotism while being married to a man who had been a member of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party. Just how patriotic is that? She had even sent them a message urging them to keep up the good work. Presumably that meant working towards separating Alaska from the country reviled by the party's founder:
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He also said this: "And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Vogler has also said: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
Speaking of irony
Seversky, I don’t really know if you think that the last comment you recorded in your post discredits the Governor or not. I hope you are smart enough to see its irrelevance to the issue of global warming or to judging her ability to effectively assume a leadership position. If you can’t see that, you are being willingly duped.
Yes, we are talking about some one who is being seriously considered by some as a future occupant of the White House. The Founding Fathers of this country are rightly considered to be great mean. The men who drafted the Declaration of Independence and drew up the US Constitution were not fools. They were well-educated, highly intelligent and of great experience. Some of the country's greatest presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson - were drawn from their ranks. Nor should we forget the likes of Lincoln or Roosevelt or Kennedy. And you seriously think Sarah Palin is a worthy successor to such people? That is the best the Republican Party has to offer? I can only think of John McEnroe's famous exclamation: "You cannot be serious!" Actually, no, that's not quite right. I am also reminded of the Mencken quote that was used against George W Bush:
As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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hummus @25
Actually I was sipping a Leinenkugel’s Creamy Dark Lager.
While you still haven't provided any meaningful content after three posts, it does verify that (unlike Tiger) alcohol was involved.SpitfireIXA_{December 6, 2009
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This man IS the Vice President of the United States, a perpetual gaffe machine
Sure, but I bet he never put food on his family.hummus man_{December 6, 2009
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----hummus man: "Now, I won’t argue with the truthfulness of what she said, each sentence on it’s own is fine, though facile and uninsightful. I’d hope that someone who aspires to the second most powerful position on earth to have a firmer grasp of foreign policy than that. And while each sentence is, on it’s own, coherent, they are strung together into a depressing Jamesian pastiche." Did you perform that same methodology on any one of Joe Biden's inventory of truly idiotic statements. Try this one: "If you listen to me and follow what I’m suggesting we can fix this. When the stock market crashed Franklin Roosevelt got on television and didn’t just talk about the you know the pictures of greed he’s look this is what happened." The sentence is, like, you know what I'm saying man, incoherent. Also, you might be interested to know that Roosevelt was not the President and television had not yet been invented. This man IS the Vice President of the United States, a perpetual gaffe machine that makes Sarah Palin look like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher rolled into one.StephenB_{December 6, 2009
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"She is a joke. Unfortunately a dangerous joke if people are still listening to her." Unfortunately, we elected a much bigger joke to be president. A man so unqualified for the job that it is a wonder that anyone would vote for such a light weight. What could have possessed the American public to waste their right to vote in such a way.jerry_{December 6, 2009
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zeroseven,
Let’s not forget she could not name one newspaper she reads. She later claimed she couldn’t think of one because she wasn’t expecting the question and got nervous….She is a joke. Unfortunately a dangerous joke if people are still listening to her.
Just keep listening to the news papers and you'll be fine. (sarcasm) ;)Clive Hayden_{December 6, 2009
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Thanks for the adjective-laced elitist bloviating resulting in no information of value. Did you clink your cocktail glass after posting it?
Actually I was sipping a Leinenkugel's Creamy Dark Lager. But, if it makes you feel better,I was drinking it out of a glass. But, I will neither confirm nor deny that my pinkie was extended.hummus man_{December 6, 2009
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hummus
And while each sentence is, on it’s own, coherent, they are strung together into a depressing Jamesian pastiche.
Thanks for the adjective-laced elitist bloviating resulting in no information of value. Did you clink your cocktail glass after posting it?SpitfireIXA_{December 6, 2009
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Sev @1
Palin offered a $150 bounty for wolves to entice hunters to kill more wolves in certain parts of the state, with hunters having to present a wolf’s foreleg to collect the bounty.
Good for her. Wolves that were introduced into Northwestern states have exploded in population in a few short years -- the deer-elk populations have been hit hard, and the Fish & Game are having to shoot wolves at a completely unexpected rate, even with hunting seasoned opned to wolves. Unlike you, Sev, real environmentalists understand ecological balance and know that wolves aren't plush toys.SpitfireIXA_{December 6, 2009
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where can I find Dave Scott blogging on this topic?
look Here at your own risk!Zach Bailey_{December 6, 2009
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StephenB:
Explain that to Charles Gibson who framed a foreign policy question in terms of Alaska’s proximity to the Soviet Union, obviously unaware of the fact that the two countries almost touch, a strategic reality that shouldn’t need any further explanations.
Gibson was obviously unaware of the proximity of Alaska to Russia when he framed the question in terms of the proximity of Alaska to Russia? You want to take another crack at that one, Stephen, because as stated it doesn't make any sense? But, let's go to the tape, shall we?
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you? PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska. GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia? PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along. We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Now, I won't argue with the truthfulness of what she said, each sentence on it's own is fine, though facile and uninsightful. I'd hope that someone who aspires to the second most powerful position on earth to have a firmer grasp of foreign policy than that. And while each sentence is, on it's own, coherent, they are strung together into a depressing Jamesian pastiche.hummus man_{December 6, 2009
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The proximity to Russia question was aimed at exposing her complete ignorance of the world outside the US. I think at that stage she didn't even have a passport. The completely febrile claim that she knew something about Russia because it is close to Alaska is what this question exposed. Let's not forget she could not name one newspaper she reads. She later claimed she couldn't think of one because she wasn't expecting the question and got nervous....She is a joke. Unfortunately a dangerous joke if people are still listening to her.zeroseven_{December 6, 2009
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Palin is right on here.tragic mishap_{December 6, 2009
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