The Trend is your Friend–Global Cooling

_{July 6, 2022

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In today’s Phys.Org, we find an article giving the latest results from Deep Ocean temperature measurements of the North Atlantic. These measurements feature a new method of obtaining both temperature and CO2 levels.

What is the long term trend telling us about our future? What about the dramatic shifts in deep ocean temperatures? Were they man-made?

Just look at it and then you’ll know just how hysterical global warming–now known as “climate change,” really is.

A picture is, indeed, worth a thousand words.

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Jerry: Everyone should read Alex Epstein’s “Fossil Future’ for a take on the fake rhetoric used to scare people.
Any time I want information on highly technical scientific subjects, I always search out people with a Bachelor of Arts degree.JHolo_{July 6, 2022
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Everyone should read Alex Epstein’s “Fossil Future’ for a take on the fake rhetoric used to scare people about the climate. More importantly is the morality all or mostly on the side of using fossil fuels? I would have to say yes after listening to/reading this book. Though pushing for more nuclear power seems worthwhile. CO2 increases are real. The question is how dangerous it is. Also, what are the real objectives of those pushing climate change as dangerous?jerry_{July 6, 2022
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PaV: Again, JHolo, I wonder how old you are.
Senior citizen. You? I’d be interested in how you interpret the chart up above. What does it tell you?
It tells me that deep sea temperatures track well with CO2 levels. It tells me that there were times in the past when there wasn’t much ocean stratification. It tells me absolutely nothing about times since the use of fossil fuels. Isn’t that what you see?JHolo_{July 6, 2022
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JHolo: "Global warming" doesn't 'cause' climate change. It's simply a period of climate. Climate has always changed (see the chart) and always will. Thus, "climate change" is really uninformative. It's like saying, "Long-term weather patterns that change over time and are changing over time." It's a redundant phrase. I'd be interested in how you interpret the chart up above. What does it tell you?PaV_{July 6, 2022
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JHolo: I wonder how old you are. I'm old enough to remember when they first started talking about "global warming." It was an idea back then, maybe the late 80's. It had not yet become a religion. Well, more and more was said about "global warming." The sky, we were assured, was going to fall down. (Now, how long ago was this? Hmmm.....35 years ago) Then it all went from "science" to "investment." The government would underwrite your investment in solar and especially in wind turbines. Guaranteed income. All you had to do was convince people--and pay off politicians, and you'd have a wonderful return on your investment dollars. And "global warming" was born. And the cultural elites cashed in. And the poor nations around to world were, and are, forced to suffer. So, now, what about the transition from "global warming" to climate change. Well, after one conference after another, year after year, had to be cancelled because of snow storms, lo and behold, it was no longer "global warming." No, it was not to be called "climate change." Again, JHolo, I wonder how old you are. Climate change is likely going to prove to be one of the greatest and most costly hoaxes of all time. Just look at the chart above. I remember the LA Times with a story about "global warming" on the front page. There, smack dab in the middle of the upper cut of the paper was a graph showing just how horrible things had become. I noticed two things when I looked closer (of course, the LA Times writers were hoping I wouldn't do that). First, the overall in change in temperature from the middle 1800's to the then current mid 1990's, really didn't amount to too much. Second, the slope of the graph from the 1800's to about 1938 was greater than the slope from 1940 to the mid 1990's. That is, after the car and factories became ubiquitous around the US and the world, things started to "cool off." You might remember, of course, two things. First, the hottest years of the 20th Century occurred in the 1930's and let to the 'Dustbowl.' Second, in the mid 1970's, they were talking about "global cooling." As our chart shows, we're headed towards "global cooling." Ah, how refreshing! :)PaV_{July 6, 2022
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Andrew: And I’m asking what difference does the name make?
Global warming causes climate change. Phosphorus pollution causes eutrophication. Alcohol causes liver damage. Smoking causes lung cancer. But nobody claims that scientists are changing the name of phosphorus pollution to eutrophication, or alcohol to liver damage or smoking to cancer, in order to discredit the scientists.JHolo_{July 6, 2022
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Is there any evidence to support the idea that climate change is driven by human activity? Is there any evidence that global temperatures are rising due to human activity as opposed to historical temperature deviations? And if so, why is there still beachfront property for sale in Florida?relatd_{July 6, 2022
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Global Warming label shifted in most circles to Climate 'Change' after documented temp readings from many of the Northern Hemisphere sites detected a cooling of atmospheric temps. Oh, and of course the ice caps did not melt (in several instances in the last 3-4 years many areas showed growth)...oh and the polar bears did not die off and who can forget professor Alvin Gore's failed predictions along with all the failed IPCC models. (all while CO2 measurements were still climbing)Trumper_{July 6, 2022
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"scientist changed the name to climate change" JH, And I'm asking what difference does the name make? Andrewasauber_{July 6, 2022
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Andrew: As long as you mix in all the buzzwords, does it really make any difference?
I have repeatedly heard people arguing against global warming by falsely claiming that scientist changed the name to climate change. Which is either an outright lie, or a statement based on ignorance.JHolo_{July 6, 2022
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"Global warming is not now known as climate change. Climate change is the consequence of global warming." JH, As long as you mix in all the buzzwords, does it really make any difference? Andrewasauber_{July 6, 2022
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Just look at it and then you’ll know just how hysterical global warming–now known as “climate change,” really is.
Global warming is not now known as climate change. Climate change is the consequence of global warming.JHolo_{July 6, 2022
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"they were able to obtain the most accurate temperature estimates to date" When I read stuff like this, I just shake my head again. This gives a false impression of accuracy. Because estimates always get better. You'd think with this type of trajectory, it'd be difficult to improve after awhile. But are they anywhere close to the truth? Andrewasauber_{July 6, 2022
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