Here is a “red pen” for all of those who insist that unborn babies are not human.
Deny that baby’s humanity until you are red in the face. Your denial is insane. You know the truth.
Serving The Intelligent Design Community
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That might be a more interesting datum if the video weren’t looped to make a singular movement look like a coordinated response to music.
Watch the progress bar in the right corner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR6POuFfFNU
Or consider the coordination of a newborn, and extrapolate back in development.
Or consider that hearing develops (I think) at week 18 at the earliest.
It really is the summer of manipulated videos. Must be an election year. Go back to huffing and puffing. Facts just aren’t your thing.
“Facts just aren’t your thing.”
Hmmm, interesting claim coming from a Darwinist/Atheist who is absolutely dependent on the distortion of facts/truth in order to try to make his case for the plausibility of Darwinian evolution:
As to hearing:
I can’t count the times I’ve read the terms “lump of cells”, “parasite” or “zygote” in that regard, but very rarely does anyone speak of “human being”.
Well, apparently you’re at least straightforward about your convictions (which is rare enough) but it still makes you and your fellas a bunch of stupid twats…
Sebestyen
I spent today with my grandchildren. I’ve known both of them since the day they were born, touched each of them within an hour of their births (2 years apart), played with them weekly if not daily ever since, smiled as they screamed their little lungs out, changed their diapers, and watched them fall asleep in my arms because they felt safe and comfortable with me. So the facts about killing babies, including pre-born ones, turn my stomach.
In Philosophy class, the priest who was teaching the course told us simply that the Catholic position is: The taking of innocent life is murder, and the pre-born child is alive. Thus abortion is a slippery slope that leads to state-ordered euthanasia for an ever-widening pool of people declared excess to the state’s current needs.
But whilst condemning atheists, you might want to keep in mind that the Jewish position is, and has been for millennia, that a baby is not “alive” or “human” or something until he or she has COMPLETELY exited his or her mother’s body. So I guess this means you can kill it without breaking any moral codes if the entire baby has popped out except for the toes… Or, assuming he was coming out feet first, you can kill it before the head comes out.
I’ve never seen anything about a Moslem position on abortion, or Hindu or Confucian or West African… But one can’t generalize one of the several Christian positions on the morality of abortion into a GENERAL statement on human morality that was always true.
You must also keep in mind that except in communities with modern Western medical facilities, it’s safer for the mother to practice infanticide. That is, go ahead with a full-term pregnancy and birth, and then arrange for the newborn to die, by abandonment for example. Slaves of pagan Vikings could not have children. Any child that was born to a slave was left on the shore at low tide. When the Vikings converted to Christianity, the priests forbade the practice, thereby generating an entirely new lower class amongst the Norse.
The Ancient Greeks exposed undesired newborns, including any baby with a birth defect, on hillsides. It was also common to kill all but one of the babies when there was a multiple birth. Since it would take them several days to starve to death after being abandoned, I’m guessing most of these babies were killed by crows or wolves.
Mahuna – interesting overview. I didn’t know that about Jewish teaching. The Catholic view has been consistent since the earliest era (Didache 70 a.d. condemns abortion). I wonder if the Christian view was something new or if modern Judaism changed.
Tertullian cites Exodus 21:22-24 as forbidding abortion – but I don’t know how that was interpreted.
I can’t understand how anyone can experience the love of innocent children (as you describe with your own grandchildren) and promote abortion the way they do in our culture today. It’s tragic and frightening.