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The Choosing

I’m honored to have the chance to present a post-Darwinist conversion account by one of our Uncommon Descent readers, Dr. David Cook, MD. Physicians like him serve as role models to the young and are a symbol to the scientific community that highly intelligent and scientifically literate people can be skeptical of Darwinian evolution.

Dr. Cook is a graduate of Vanderbilt, home of one of the first IDEA chapters in the nation. I asked him not to be shy about his accomplishments, because people like him are the ones who most effectively communicate to the world that a person can be quite literate in science and still question Darwinian evolution. His example empirically disproves the false claims of Dawkins, Harris, KCFS, NCSE, and others who insinuate that exposure to criticism of the Darwinian orthodoxy will deteriorate scientific understanding.

Here is Dr. Cook’s CV followed by an account of his post-Darwinist conversion. I trust that many of our readers can identify. His words to the students, “it is OK to believe in science and disbelieve in Darwinism, and that you can be a fine doctor too.”

-Undergraduate degree in Medical Biology, Summa Cum Laude, University of

Utah, 1983

Phi Eta Sigma Honor Society, 1981

Phi Beta Kappa Honor Society, 1984

– Doctor of Medicine, Vanderbilt University Medical School, 1987

Founder’s Medal for First Honors (graduated first in class)

Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society 1985 (Junior year, one of

only four in class)

Merck Award, 1987

Upjohn Award, 1987

– Orthopaedic Residency at University of Wisconsin-Madison 1987-1992

Administrative Chief Resident, 1991-1992

Alumni Award, University of Wisconsin, 1992

– Certified by American Board of Orthopaedic Surgery, 1994, exam

score 99th percentile, recertified 2003

– Chief of Orthopaedic Services, Vandenberg Hospital, and Orthopaedic

Consultant to the U.S. Space Command 1994-1996

– Six published articles in orthopaedic journals of no interest to anyone but

another orthopaedist. One of them was the first large study on MRI

findings in ACL-injured knees. Several have been cited in other studies.

– Currently in private practice in Layton, Utah, raising kids and reading

and writing as a hobby.

Here are some of his reflections and words of encouragement to ID-sympathetic college students:

Post-Darwinist conversion summary:

I believed in Darwinian-type evolution up through undergraduate and more or less through medical school. What else was there? My church does not take a position on the subject. We believe that “Man was created in God’s image,” but how God went about it is unspecified. The spectrum of beliefs on this topic among church members spans nearly the entire range; we are only required to accept that God was involved and behind it somehow. I used to just vaguely believe that “evolution is how He did it.”

In medical school (Vanderbilt University in Nashville, TN) I was faced with learning all I could about the human body, from the microscopic sub-cellular level on up to and including how humans interact with each other and their environment, and all the things that can go wrong with the system.

The more I learned, the less sense it made to me that such an incredibly complex, incredibly integrated on all levels entity could possibly have arisen as a result of chance, no matter over what time period and no matter what selection mechanisms were involved. There are just way too many examples of processes, structures, and functions that are not only amazingly complex themselves, but engage in incredibly coordinated cooperation with other parts and functions. Any physiological process you can think of is this way, bone homeostasis being the currently most familiar to me because of my specialty of orthopaedic surgery; how could the amazing feedback system among the intestine, liver, kidney, and bone have arisen without some sort of coordinating agency? Gross anatomy is the same way on a macro level; muscle, nerve, vascular, bone, and joint systems all mesh in an elegance of function.

And when you expand the question to the whole of life it becomes mind-boggling: fish, insects, birds- did you ever look at an ant under a microscope? What awesome little machines they are. And that’s only on the outside. And supposedly primitive creatures like sharks turn out to have sensory and surveillance equipment to put the CIA to shame.

I began questioning fellow classmates and a few professors. By what possible sequence of events could this amazing symphony of form and function have arisen through chance processes? I received no satisfactory answers. The ones who even took the question seriously assured me that there were experts and specialists in the field out there who understood it all, it had all been investigated, and Darwinism was the answer. Just because we students didn’t understand it didn’t mean no one did. I could rest assured that somebody knew all that.

To me it didn’t make sense but for awhile I accepted that I just didn’t have the background and knowledge to understand it but there were those who did and all scientists believed it and I could therefore not worry about it. The only people I ever heard of who were disagreeing with Darwinism were religious biblical fundamentalists who believed in a literal six 24-hour day creation story. I already didn’t believe that (the lights ruling the day and night didn’t show up until the 4th “day”, what kept track of time before that, for one thing) so I had no trouble discounting these people’s objections without really paying much attention to them.

If memory serves it was “Darwin’s Black Box” by Michael Behe that I first encountered as a challenge to Darwinism from a scientific perspective. I now realize there were others published before that but this was the first for me. It immediately reminded me of all the other systems I’d learned about that just seemed too complex and inter-related to have arisen by chance. “Irreducible complexity” is a magnificently concise term for what I’d been observing and I wish I’d thought of it myself. The bacterial flagellum is just one, and not even the most complex, example of many myriad structures and functions that this concept applies to.

So I started reading and collecting books. At present count I have 29 volumes on the top shelf in my library directly pertaining to evolution. To be fair I included a couple of Richard Dawkins; “The Blind Watchmaker” and “The Selfish Gene.” To me these read more like philosophical treatises than scientific explanations.

I no longer accept that somebody, or anybody, understands how it all happened. I no longer believe neo-Darwinism as an explanation for life on earth. I have adopted Denyse O’Leary’s term “post-Darwinist” to describe my current position.

I am currently reading Dr. J.C. Sanford’s book on the human genome. The notion has previously occurred to me more than once that humans have been deteriorating genetically for quite some time, but it never occurred to me that this could be investigated or quantified. I am excited to see what he has to say about it. (I emailed my PhD physicist brother, who has a very dry sense of humor, about Dr. Sanford’s thesis, and he just today replied; “Regarding the deteriorating human genome, I’ve been saying that for years. We’re interfering with Natural Selection by treating the sick. All this health care will one day kill us.” I think he was joking. (He’s read Hoyle’s Cosmology textbook, BTW, and no longer believes in the Big Bang.)

The discovery that believing in the validity of science and the scientific method does not require a belief in Darwinism has given me a surprising feeling of relief and intellectual freedom. I can explore interesting ideas like Intelligent Design and Panspermia without feeling vaguely guilty about it. I believe the most exciting discoveries about life are in the future, and are not going to be found by those clinging to the restrictive blinders of mutation and natural selection as the only possible explanations.

I believe ID has some very important things to say about life and I am excited to see where it’s going to go in the future. Besides establishing that life was designed, I am looking forward to investigations of how it got to earth, how it progressed, was it brought or sent here sequentially (my personal leaning at this time; have you read Fred Hoyle’s and other’s books on panspermia?) or was it pre-programmed to develop? Can we find any clues about where it came from? If not ultimately, at least right before it got here? Also, can we find evidence for more than one mind behind the multitude of designs? There is a way to identify the author of a book using computer “word-prints.” (This is how Joe Kline was identified as the author of the anonym ously-published “Primary Colors” about the Clinton campaign.) Could we someday apply a similar, though necessarily much more complex, process to identify features of different form of life characteristic of different designers?

The possibilities are exciting and seemingly endless. I understand that right now during the fight for legitimacy for ID there is probably little energy to spare, but hopefully once the concept is accepted as a legitimate target for research money the field can expand and address many other questions. I’m looking forward to it.

My message for the students you talk to would be that it is OK to believe in science and disbelieve in Darwinism, and that you can be a fine doctor too.

In appreciation for Dr. Cook’s willingness to give an account of his journey, I’m giving a plug for his novel, The Choosing. Interestingly, “choice” is the salient characteristic of an intelligent agency. I suppose it was destined Dr. Cook would join our little community here at Uncommon Descent.

In my time on the college campuses, a very large proportion of ID-sympathetic college students in the biology curriculums were pre-med. To learn about the surprising amount of ID-sympathy on college campuses in the science and biology students and faculty see the following links:

UK Guardian: Most of the next generation of medical and science students could well be creationists

40% of freshman in UCSD’s sixth college reject Darwinism

Dean of Harvard Medical School endorses pro-ID book, medical professors revolt against Darwin

Comments
Fascinating and excellent interview. Dr. Cook, I'm curious about your interest in panspermia. Earlier in the interview you mention being a member of a church, so I take it from that that you are a believer in some form of Christianity. How do you square your Christian beliefs with panspermia? [Moderators, forgive me if this is stepping too far into the religion category. I'll accept my lashing with a wet noodle if this is out of line. But I'm rather curious about this point.]jb
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Janice, Honestly, my mind tends to feel a sense of slow motion with this topic. That is, when I try to discuss philosophy of science. I feel like I am usually missing a better definition of something... or something like that. Anyway, you replaced Meyer's words: "programs of origins research" ..with.. "interpretations of data" ...and effectively ask, "What if he wrote that?" - Is this regarding more on how scientists intrerept? or more About what is the significance of Meyer's statement in the re-wording? or.. are my questions the same and just in different wording. :P Anyway, it does seem, to me, that Meyer's reference to "programs of origins research", is simply him referring to ways of thinking about the world and/or how people will approach the intrepretation of the data collected. [I don't know of what material is out there on HOW to intrepret data.] I might be probing into something over my head here... in fact.. let me know if I am already lost and push me back into reality.JGuy
January 17, 2007
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Janice I have to say I’m surprised that Dr Cook is interested in panspermia since AFIK it answers nothing. It makes complete sense of all the data regarding evolution on this planet. Plus it's an elegant repetition of a pattern - phylogeny is the same process as ontogeny only on a different time scale. Both processes are predetermined with chance playing little or no role and the environment only serving to provide cues for moving to the next stage of the process. On an even grander scale it repeats the process of life reproducing itself and moving from one location to another. Of course it doesn't answer the ultimate question of where the first life came from but that's just how the cookie crumbles. The truth isn't necessarily what you want it to be, it is what it is. Directed Pansperimia Francis Crick Remembered Panspermia WebsiteDaveScot
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It was the biochemistry of the formation of insulin that made me question evolution. About two years later, during what I can only describe as a "hounds of heaven" episode, I read an argument that was based on mutation rates, the supposed evolution of the horse and the age of the earth. That led me to abandon belief in The General Theory of Evolution, realise there must be a God and then go looking to find out who He might be. It took, maybe, another three months to find Him. That was over 25 years ago. At the time I had no idea that anyone, anywhere, was a Creationist of any sort. But I soon started coming across books and pamphlets. Then a junior resident at the hospital where I was an intern showed me a copy of an ICR magazine and a few weeks later I discovered the Creation Science Foundation (later AiG and now, in Australia, Creation Ministeries International). I have to say I'm surprised that Dr Cook is interested in panspermia since AFIK it answers nothing. But apart from that I'm hoping someone will be able to help me. I've been reading on the "demarcation problem" in the philosophy of science. Popper said something is scientific if it can be falsified. Lakatos talked about "research programs" with a hard core theory and more flexible auxiliary hypotheses. Kuhn and Feyerabend I can't be bothered with. There are nomothetic sciences in which researchers are looking for general laws which govern repeatable events and ideographic (or historical) sciences in which researchers look for the best explanation for a specific event. It seems to me that most of this is about what scientists are doing and how they are doing it. What I want to know is whether any philosophers of science have worked on how scientists interpret the results of what they have done. For instance, in "The Methodological Equivalence of Naturalistic and Non-Naturalistic Origins Theories" (at http://www.discovery.org) Meyer wrote, "The exclusion of one of the logically possible programs of origins research by assumption, therefore, seriously diminishes the significance of any claim to theoretical superiority by advocates of a remaining program." What if he had written, "The exclusion, by assumption, of one of the logically possible interpretations of data therefore seriously diminishes ... etc"? Lysenkoism was naturalistic but it was also Marxist. It wouldn't have mattered how Lysenko did his experiments (assuming he actually did any of them) whatever results he got would have been interpreted according to Marxist theory and, therefore, would have been in error more likely than not. Is this a question for philosophers of science? Any links?Janice
January 17, 2007
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Awesome. It's always good to see a convert from the dark side. Funny bit about the conversation/exchange he had with his brother on genetic degeneration. Well, now all we have to do is complete the ultimate mission of ID and convert him into a young earth creationist! ~~ booo ahh ahh ahh! ~~ It's all unfolding exactly as planned! [I wonder how many people will buy into that conspiracy joke]JGuy
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Wow that was really great though, how he can't imagine how God could make light and keep track of time without the sun; we could lock ourselves in a cave w/ some lights and a stop watch - I'm sure God could manage... let's just say there's better reasons to disbelieve YEC. Overall, very good and informative. Not to mention he's super smart and loves ID haha. With my time her at UD I def. learned two things: 1) ID is not religious. Ask any Calvinistic YECer (like me) - we get frustrated like mAD cRaZy yO! At our brothers who hold onto ID as a centerpiece for Evangelsim "apart from the Bible" O_o (yes, just like we frustrate you Old Earthers) "Plenty" of agnostics and atheists that believe in ID. 2) It's pure science. Though I always use the Bible as my authority for everything and share ID only in the context of Evangelism, never "Bible free" (firmly believing man's will is bondaged to sin and if they believe in ID and not Christ what's the value?), if I wanted to I could construct a secular science only argument and simply by choice I do not, but many people do in here. Face it, from a YEC point of view ID is definitely not religious and we take the good science from it and learn - b/c we're certainly not taking the religious component of it (there is none)! PS I'm talking about the distinction between Calvinism and Arminianism - we don't need to get into it here (Go to my blog!) The C vs A debate would take too long and I would be too tempted to reply back; it would be bitter and end with account suspensions (Go to my blog!) :pjpark320
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