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Anthony Sacramone callin’ ’em like he sees ’em

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I think this post is miscategorized. It's filed under "intelligent design" but should be under "atheism" and "religion." Also, if by "Christian" Sacramone means trinitarian, Newton was no Christian.David Kellogg
March 20, 2009
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The mantra of the so-called "new atheists" (na's) is that the world would be so much better off if we could just get rid of these ignorant, mean-spirited, uneducated, vengeful, prejudiced, hate-filled Relgious folk. To read Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and those of their ilk, why you'd believe a New Age of Atheistic Utopia with peace, prosperity, fairness and love for all was just around the corner once all vestiges of religion are swept away! Too bad for the na's that history just doesn't support their arguments from ignorance. They coneniently overlook the many atrocities committed throughout history by (in)famous atheists (Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler...to name but three of the more notorious members of this elite club) while bemoaning, weeping, wailing and hand-wringing over the bad stuff done by religious people -- the inquisition and 9-11 being two of the more popular examples. Conspicuous by its absence in these "scholarly" critiques of the religious influence on civilization throughout history are all the good, wonderful, noble, self-sacraficial deeds of love and charity done by millions motivated wholly by their religious zeal. You know, deeds like abolishing slavery (Wilberforce, mentioned by Sacramone), creating hospitals to alleviate suffering (Catholics, Methodists, among others), caring for the sick and dying on the streets of Calcutta, India (Mother Teresa - you know, that uneducated, hate-filled religious person revered by, oh, 99% of the world!) and so many others from various religious backgrounds. Yes, if we could just rid the world of this stinky thing called "religion", why, Utopia and the supremacy of Science and Reason and Goodness await us!DonaldM
March 20, 2009
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Yes, not to mention how the belief that the genome was riddled with evolutionary leftovers or "Junk DNA" would essentially authoritatively stunt research and treatment derived from the non-coding regions, where in fact many genetic disorders can occur.PaulN
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this is the bottom line: (from the article)
In fact, the contention that atheists are more likely than Christians or other religious people to ameliorate life’s harsher conditions is so patently, historically false that you can be certain that anyone who perpetuates this falsehood is most probably trying to convince himself more than anyone else.
whenever I have a darwinist tell me that 'christians shouldn't take medical treatments because medicine is all about darwinism' I just about throw up. Darwinism gave rise to eugenics...and even the hairy one himself said...
"With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed." (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], "The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex," [1871], John Murray: London, Second Edition, 1922, reprint, pp.205-206)
so why would a darwnist want to take care of anyone? weed out the 'useless eaters' let the strong survive...its just applied evolution...tsmith
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