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Michael Behe writes:

The more science progresses, the more hapless Darwin seems.

In my 2019 book Darwin Devolves I showed that random mutation and natural selection are powerful de-volutionary forces. That is, they quickly lead to the loss of genetic information. The reason is that, in many environmental circumstances, a species’ lot can be improved most quickly by breaking or blunting pre-existing genes. To get the point across, I used an analogy to a quick way to improve a car’s gas mileage — remove the hood, throw out the doors, get rid of any excess weight. That will help the car go further, but it also reduces the number of features of the car. And it sure doesn’t explain how any of those now-jettisoned parts got there in the first place.

Image credit: Thomas Quine, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons.

The Bottom Line

The same goes for biology. Helpful mutations that arrive most quickly are very much more likely to degrade genetic features than to construct new ones. The featured illustration in Darwin Devolves was the polar bear, which has accumulated a number of beneficial mutations since it branched off from the brown bear a few hundred thousand years ago. Yet the large majority of those beneficial mutations were degradative — they broke or damaged pre-existing genes. For example, a gene involved in fur pigmentation was damaged, rendering the beast white — that helped; another gene involved in fat metabolism was degraded, allowing the animal to consume lots of seal blubber, its main food in the Arctic — that helped, too. Those mutations were good for the species in the moment — they did improve its chances of survival. But degradative mutations don’t explain how the functioning genes got there in the first place. Even worse, the relentless burning of genetic information to adapt to a changing environment will make a species evolutionarily brittle and more prone to extinction. The bottom line: Although random mutation and natural selection help a species adapt, Darwinian processes can’t account for the origins of sophisticated biological systems.

In Darwin Devolves, I also mentioned work on DNA extracted from frozen woolly mammoth carcasses that showcased devolution: “26 genes were shown to be seriously degraded, many of which (as with polar bear) were involved in fat metabolism, critical in the extremely cold environments that the mammoth roamed.” It turns out that was an underestimate. A new paper1 that has sequenced DNA from several more woolly mammoth remains says the true number is more than triple that — 87 genes broken compared to their elephant relatives. 

There’s Lots More

The point is that these gene losses aren’t side shows — they are the events that transformed an elephant into a mammoth, that adapted the animal to its changing environment. A job well done, yes, but now those genes are gone forever, unavailable to help with the next change of environment. Perhaps that contributed to eventual mammoth extinction.

As quoted above, the mammoth authors note that gene losses can be adaptive, and they cited a paper that I hadn’t seen before. I checked it out and it’s a wonderful laboratory evolution study of yeast.2 Helsen et al. (2020) used a collection of yeast strains in which one of each different gene in the genome had been knocked out. They grew the knockout yeast in a stressful environment and watched to see how the microbes evolved to handle it. Many of the yeast strains, with different genes initially knocked out, recovered, and some even surpassed the fitness of wild-type yeast under the circumstances. The authors emphasized the fact of the evolutionary recovery. However, they also clearly stated (but don’t seem to have noticed the importance of the fact) that all of the strains rebounded by breaking other genes, ones that had been intact at the beginning of the experiment. None built anything new, all of them devolved.

Well, Duh

That’s hardly a surprise. At least in retrospect, it’s easy to see that devolution must happen — for the simple reason that helpful degradative mutations are more plentiful than helpful constructive ones and thus arrive more quickly for natural selection to multiply. The more recent results recounted here just pile more evidence onto that gathered in Darwin Devolves showing Darwin’s mechanism is powerfully devolutionary. That simple realization neatly explains results ranging from the evolutionary behavior of yeast in a comfy modern laboratory, to the speciation of megafauna in raw nature millions of years ago, and almost certainly to everything in between.

References

  1. Van der Valk, Tom, et al. 2022. Evolutionary consequences of genomic deletions and insertions in the woolly mammoth genome. iScience 25, 104826.
  2. Helsen, J. et al. 2020. Gene loss predictably drives evolutionary adaptation. Molecular Biology and Evolution 37, 2989–3002.

Behe’s conclusions have significant implications: evolutionary adaptation seems to progress by breaking existing genes in such a way as to confer a survival advantage in a niche environment; the result is a more “brittle” species with fewer options for surviving further environmental stresses; the mystery of the origin of the original genes is in no way explained by natural means at any step in the process. Rather than Darwinian evolution providing a mechanism for the “origin of the species,” it more adequately explains the demise of species.

Comments
WJM: If you get to use “The theory of unguided evolution is widely supported and accepted,” in support of your position, Oh, sorry I did not add the rather obvious: because of the vast amount of observed, historic and experimental data which includes but is not limited to: the fossil record, the genomic record, the morphological record, and the bio-geographic distribution record. I guess to make you happy every statement I make has to be a paragraph or more just in case you might choose to take it so literally that it's pointless having conversations. Perhaps you could work on considering things in context instead of just narrow textual analysis. Except for the niggling fact that “nature” wouldn’t have access to the process that was necessary for the success of the results under selective breeding. If a variation arose that meant an individual was better able to exploit the environment and resources available to it (i.e lived longer and left more offspring) then what other process are you referring to? Again, instead of acting like every statement someone makes exists outside of a greater context you'd probably get more better responses if you stopped being so pedantic and literal. Your call. Since the football season is starting soon I suspect much of your attention will be elsewhere.JVL
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Asauber: Again, you said “variation that is available.” What variation would not be available? You said it. You explain it. Variation that is present, inheritable and can be selected for or against is what is available. There are lots of styles of potato chips available at the supermarket. What kinds aren't available? Should I just make something up? Okay, there is no asparagus flavoured potato chips available . . . at least I hope not!! Just saying there are a lot of varieties around does not mean there are a lot that are not around. Besides, the whole point was that natural reproduction introduces inheritable variations into a population which can be 'selected' for which will change the allele frequencies in the population.JVL
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JVL said:
Not much evidence supporting creationism though.
That wasn't the standard you expressed which I quoted in my response. If you get to use "The theory of unguided evolution is widely supported and accepted," in support of your position, creationists get to use that same standard in support of their perspective. Therefore, it adds no extra weight to your position.
Selective breeding gives an indication of the amount of inheritable variation is available to work with. Given that it’s not surprising that new varieties will emerge in nature just as they do in captivity.
Except for the niggling fact that "nature" wouldn't have access to the process that was necessary for the success of the results under selective breeding.William J Murray
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Troll, Again, you wrote "variation that is available." What variation would not be available? You wrote it. You explain it. Andrewasauber
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ET: There isn’t any contested design. Clearly and obviously not true. It's a silly thing even to say. Given starting populations of prokaryotes there aren’t any naturalistic mechanisms capable of producing anything but more prokaryotes. Universal common descent via naturalistic mechanisms is a non-starter. Well, when you can find a non-human designer (who did what exactly, when exactly) then perhaps people will start taking your contested view seriously. No designer means no design. Perhaps you should start studying the things you think were designed so you can be more like archaeologists who are actually trying to find out things about the designers who designed the works they study. Are you doing that? Is anyone doing that? Why not? Or you can just keep making your negative arguments: i.e. that natural processes have not been shown to be capable. That doesn't get you design if there is no designer. (Also, a point of logic: not been shown does not mean not capable. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But you knew that of course since you know more about science and logic than just about anyone on the planet. Amazing.)JVL
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Asauber: The implication being there is variation that is not available. Maybe you can explain what variation is not available, since you stated it. That's silly. I might say there are a lot of types of trees available which doesn't mean there are tons that are not available. You're really getting desperate now.JVL
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Jerry: It was well known to Darwin and humanity for thousands of years. I said he was aware that some variation could be inherited. The fossil record actually disproves naturalized evolution and is one of the main bodies of evidence against it. No, it's consistent with unguided evolution. Gaps do not mean no creatures existed in those gaps, just that they didn't fossilise. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Logic 101. Morphological information also disproves Evolution Again, looking at existent life forms it's possible to get a somewhat accurate 'tree of life' just by looking at morphological similarities. If you want to say the appearance of novelties causing morphology changes is Evolution, ID agrees 100%. But it is all based on massive changes to the genome and one then has to say how did this happen. Current research suggests you do not always need massive changes to the genome; what you need is changes to the control genes. Read Shubin's recent book Some Assembly Acquired.JVL
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Earth to JVL- Given starting populations of prokaryotes there aren't any naturalistic mechanisms capable of producing anything but more prokaryotes. Universal common descent via naturalistic mechanisms is a non-starter.ET
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There isn't any contested design. Losers whining that they lost is not a contention. Only the willfully ignorant think that DNA is the only evidence for ID.ET
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"Such as? And the evidence for your limitations." Troll, You said: "Selective breeding gives an indication of the amount of inheritable variation is available to work with.” The implication being there is variation that is not available. Maybe you can explain what variation is not available, since you stated it. Andrewasauber
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Genetics is only one line of evidence and one that was completely unknown to Darwin
Nonsense. It was well known to Darwin and humanity for thousands of years. For example, selective breeding is genetics. The mechanism was unknown but the process was well known.
bio-geographic distributions, the morphological data and the fossil record
All are within the framework of genetics. The fossil record actually disproves naturalized evolution and is one of the main bodies of evidence against it. Darwin knew this. Why it should be brought up is ironic. Morphological information also disproves Evolution. It is often just genetics. Darwin used plasticity (didn’t call it that) to say how Evolution works. But this has since been disproven by evolutionary biologists. Morphology is passé. If you want to say the appearance of novelties causing significant morphology changes is Evolution, ID agrees 100%. But it is all based on massive changes to the genome and one then has to say how did this happen. So to assume morphology supports small changes is absurd. It supports ID. So each of bio-geographic, morphology and fossils points to ID not any known natural mechanism for change. Remember, the Grants says it takes 32 million years for a new bird species to appear. So a lot of bio-geographic differences are just allele shuffling which is not Evolution.jerry
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Asauber: https://www.thealmostwitch.com/blog/types-of-modern-witches I wasn't thinking of new agey, candle-burning, Tarot card reading, people with too many necklaces who spend too much time watching Game of Thrones but if that's what you believe . . . . I guess we both believe in miracles, then. Nah, I don't think you can violate the laws of physics.JVL
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Troll, "Do you believe in witches?" https://www.thealmostwitch.com/blog/types-of-modern-witches "How about talking donkeys? Talking bushes? People being turned into salt?" I guess we both believe in miracles, then. Andrewasauber
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Asauber: So was/is slavery. Way past time to discard such stupidities. Not really comparable are they? Slavery is mentioned and not condemned in the Bible is it not? Do you believe in witches? Do they really exist? They're mentioned in the Bible aren't they? Is it time to discard such stupidities? How about talking donkeys? Talking bushes? People being turned into salt? Evidently there are severe limitations, huh? Such as? And the evidence for your limitations.JVL
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Jerry: Again the defenders of Evolution use genetics as the basis of their justification. When will the irony of their false reasoning sink in? Genetics is only one line of evidence and one that was completely unknown to Darwin. He knew there was some way that some variations could be inherited but that's it. You still have to consider the bio-geographic distributions, the morphological data and the fossil record. Plus the hundreds of years of observation regarding the ability for new varieties to arise from the variation that is available. Have you looked at the brassicas? Lots of markedly different types there.JVL
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"Selective breeding gives an indication of the amount of inheritable variation is available to work with." Troll, Evidently there are severe limitations, huh? Andrewasauber
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ET: In most cases there aren’t any. Pick a site and we'll see. Unless you're really busy studying DNA and doing what archaeologist do every day trying to come up with information about the designer(s) like when they lived, what tools they had, how they constructed and implemented their designs, etc. You've got no other 'artefacts' to study so I guess you should be scrutinising genomes down to the last detail. Are you doing that? Is anyone doing that? There aren’t any known naturalistic mechanisms capable of producing the diversity of life. There aren't any known non-human designers capable of producing the diversity of life. We've never seen them, met them or seen any physical evidence they exist EXCEPT for your contested design inference. In other words, if you ignore the thing being argued about (DNA) you haven't got any evidence for non-human designers at all. You don't know if it's even possible for the laws of physics to be anything other than what they are so that's not really in play is it?JVL
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WJM: So is creationism. Not much evidence supporting creationism though. Selective breeding success is evidence for intelligent design, not unguided evolution, because the “selection” part refers to intelligently guided selections, not “unguided” selections. Selective breeding gives an indication of the amount of inheritable variation is available to work with. Given that it's not surprising that new varieties will emerge in nature just as they do in captivity.JVL
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"The theory of unguided evolution is widely supported and accepted." So was/is slavery. Way past time to discard such stupidities. Andrewasauber
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Kairosfocus: Similarly, there is simply no actual observed capability of a darwin pond or the like forming a first, encapsulated, metabolising, self replicating cell or the coded algorithmic information system in it. Likewise, there is no observed capability of blind chance variation plus differential reproductive success being able to create novel body plans (which require 10 – 100+ mn bases just for the genomes). Well, I haven't seen any non-human designer at all (except some animals on earth) let alone one that is capable of the things you list. How is it that design is a 'better' explanation when we've never seen or observed the designer? Aside from the fact that no one can say when design was implemented.JVL
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JVL:
The theory of unguided evolution is widely supported and accepted.
There isn't any scientific theory of unguided evolution. There aren't any known naturalistic mechanisms capable of producing the diversity of life. For a mechanistic scenario, that is death!ET
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Thanks, Relatd and BA77 for the hummingbird info! Andrewasauber
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amazing bits of selective breeding
Selective breeding has not produced anything new. It’s just a shuffling of the alleles. Occasionally something new shows up but nearly always these new sequences are due to a degradation not the result of a new novelty appearing. Again the defenders of Evolution use genetics as the basis of their justification. When will the irony of their false reasoning sink in? Aside: the answer to all this is available - to prove one way or another if small changes lead anywhere. But the ones advocating for small changes have all the money and resources and avoid investigation of the question like the plague. Do they suspect what they will find might threaten their livelihood?jerry
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The ONLY evidence for evolution by means of blind and mindless processes are genetic diseases and deformities. There isn't any evidence that evolution by means of blind and mindless processes can produce eukaryotes from the GIVEN populations of prokaryotes. Universal common descent can't even get started. And macroevolution is also a non-starter.ET
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Alan Fox:
Regarding macro-evolution, I’m pleased to see definitions are evolving.
Yes, cowards are changing the definition to suit their needs.
That there is anything more to macro-evolution beyond time and an accumulation of small, selected changes has always seemed dubious to me, despite a disagreement I had with Nick Matzke on this site.
Throwing time at an issue isn't scientific. There aren't any examples of small changes accumulating into new body plans.ET
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JVL:
We can also see how they developed their craft, we can find examples of failed and simpler design.
In most cases there aren't any.ET
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JVL said:
Like I said: I think the historical evidence is strong enough to warrant supporting unguided evolutionary theory. Coupled with the past two millennia of observed changes (including some amazing bits of selective breeding) it looks like a done deal to me.
Selective breeding success is evidence for intelligent design, not unguided evolution, because the "selection" part refers to intelligently guided selections, not "unguided" selections.William J Murray
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JVL said:
Not at all. The theory of unguided evolution is widely supported and accepted.
So is creationism.William J Murray
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That there is anything more to macro-evolution beyond time and an accumulation of small, selected changes has always seemed dubious to me
The only thing in the way is logic. And of course evidence. For evolutionary biology the only source of evidence is “When you wish upon a star.” Aside: notice how Wikipedia uses that discarded terminology of taxa. Oh well, they are so discredited as a source, what would you expect.jerry
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JVL, that's improperly seizing the default: 253>> I’d like to see the science that proves that unguided processes cannot lead to life.>> For excellent reason, Newton emphasised that claimed mechanisms should have observed capability in the here and now before projecting to the unobservable past or distant regions of the cosmos etc. Similarly, there is simply no actual observed capability of a darwin pond or the like forming a first, encapsulated, metabolising, self replicating cell or the coded algorithmic information system in it. Likewise, there is no observed capability of blind chance variation plus differential reproductive success being able to create novel body plans (which require 10 - 100+ mn bases just for the genomes). So your 257 >>I think the historical evidence is strong enough to warrant supporting unguided evolutionary theory. Coupled with the past two millennia of observed changes (including some amazing bits of selective breeding) it looks like a done deal to me>> is little more than an empty bluff. Fail. KF PS, what is likely, really happening:
[Lewontin:] . . . to put a correct [--> Just who here presume to cornering the market on truth and so demand authority to impose?] view of the universe into people's heads
[==> as in, "we" the radically secularist elites have cornered the market on truth, warrant and knowledge, making "our" "consensus" the yardstick of truth . . . where of course "view" is patently short for WORLDVIEW . . . and linked cultural agenda . . . ]
we must first get an incorrect view out [--> as in, if you disagree with "us" of the secularist elite you are wrong, irrational and so dangerous you must be stopped, even at the price of manipulative indoctrination of hoi polloi] . . . the problem is to get them [= hoi polloi] to reject irrational and supernatural explanations of the world [--> "explanations of the world" is yet another synonym for WORLDVIEWS; the despised "demon[ic]" "supernatural" being of course an index of animus towards ethical theism and particularly the Judaeo-Christian faith tradition], the demons that exist only in their imaginations,
[ --> as in, to think in terms of ethical theism is to be delusional, justifying "our" elitist and establishment-controlling interventions of power to "fix" the widespread mental disease]
and to accept a social and intellectual apparatus, Science, as the only begetter of truth
[--> NB: this is a knowledge claim about knowledge and its possible sources, i.e. it is a claim in philosophy not science; it is thus self-refuting]
. . . . To Sagan, as to all but a few other scientists [--> "we" are the dominant elites], it is self-evident
[--> actually, science and its knowledge claims are plainly not immediately and necessarily true on pain of absurdity, to one who understands them; this is another logical error, begging the question , confused for real self-evidence; whereby a claim shows itself not just true but true on pain of patent absurdity if one tries to deny it . . . and in fact it is evolutionary materialism that is readily shown to be self-refuting]
that the practices of science provide the surest method of putting us in contact with physical reality [--> = all of reality to the evolutionary materialist], and that, in contrast, the demon-haunted world rests on a set of beliefs and behaviors that fail every reasonable test [--> i.e. an assertion that tellingly reveals a hostile mindset, not a warranted claim] . . . . It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us [= the evo-mat establishment] to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes [--> another major begging of the question . . . ] to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute [--> i.e. here we see the fallacious, indoctrinated, ideological, closed mind . . . ], for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door . . . [--> irreconcilable hostility to ethical theism, already caricatured as believing delusionally in imaginary demons]. [Lewontin, Billions and billions of Demons, NYRB Jan 1997,cf. here. And, if you imagine this is "quote-mined" I invite you to read the fuller annotated citation here.]
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