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At Nature: For now, “uncertainty seems the wisest position” on the implications of quantum mechanics

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Through Two Doors at Once by Anil Ananthaswamy In a review of science writer Anil Ananthaswamy’s Through Two Doors at Once: The Elegant Experiment That Captures the Enigma of Our Quantum Reality, science writer Philip Ball captured the essence of the sheer oddity of quantum mechanics:

What’s odd is that the interference pattern remains — accumulating over many particle impacts — even if particles go through the slits one at a time. The particles seem to interfere with themselves. Odder, the pattern vanishes if we use a detector to measure which slit the particle goes through: it’s truly particle-like, with no more waviness. Oddest of all, that remains true if we delay the measurement until after the particle has traversed the slits (but before it hits the screen). And if we make the measurement but then delete the result without looking at it, interference returns.

It’s not the physical act of measurement that seems to make the difference, but the “act of noticing”, as physicist Carl von Weizsäcker (who worked closely with quantum pioneer Werner Heisenberg) put it in 1941. Ananthaswamy explains that this is what is so strange about quantum mechanics: it can seem impossible to eliminate a decisive role for our conscious intervention in the outcome of experiments. That fact drove physicist Eugene Wigner to suppose at one point that the mind itself causes the ‘collapse’ that turns a wave into a particle.
Philip Ball, “Two slits and one hell of a quantum conundrum” at Nature

Ball spends the rest of the review backing away from the implication that the mind is real but, that said, his is a good summary and he ends by recommending that pluralism is currently well-advised: “For now, uncertainty seems the wisest position in the quantum world.”

See also: Quantum physicist David Bohm on why there cannot be a Theory of Everything

Researchers clearly observe quantum effects in photosynthesis

Inspiring Philosophy on quantum mechanics and the death of materialism

and

Is the search for meaning in quantum physics a form of religion?

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jdk said:
P.S. I definitely agree with the title of this thread. Trying to interpret what QM “really” means is an exercise in unprovable metaphysics.
I feel much the same way about arguing that consensual experience "means" that an external reality exists - unless one just uses it as a provisional model, it's metaphysical ideology.William J Murray
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jdk said:
I have pointed out several times that this is not a settled matter,
That local reality has been disproved is as settled as “disproved” and as “settled” as things get in the provisional nature of science. That photons and electrons are affected by conscious observation and not mere interaction with supposed physical surroundings is as settled as it gets in science. Just because materialism-committed physicists don’t like what the evidence implies doesn’t change any of that, as you allude to as you contniue:
and that prominent QM theorists have objected to this idea on the grounds that it leads to solipsism.
They object to this rational implication of the evidence on the grounds that they dislike where they think the implication leads.
These same issues pertain to wjm’s thesis: if five people all report seeing that the rock broke the window, even though each person’s experience of that perception is available only to themself, the consensual agreement about what they saw is strong evidence that there is in fact a rock and a window external to themself.
Yes, it is. I’ve never said otherwise. Just because the theory of an external reality is good at explaining a lot of evidence/experience doesn’t mean it is true. Insisting that evidence repeatedly gathered and proved via further experimentation doesn’t mean what it rationally indicates – that the external reality model is wrong – is displaying ideological commitment to the external reality model. It’s like clinging to the geocentric model when evidence clearly demonstrates that view is wrong.
Yes, what we experience is mediated by the nature and capabilities of our senses (for instance, we could in theory see more of the electromagnetic spectrum to that the color of the rock would be different), so we can’t know the “thing-in-itself”: we can only know that thing as it appears to us (as Kant explained).But that doesn’t mean that the thing-in-itself doesn’t have an independent reality.
No, but the quantum evidence that has disproved local reality has demonstrated exactly that very thing. It doesn’t render the “exterior reality” model unusable; it just means that what we experience is not what that model describes and that there are phenomena that do not fit that model. Unfortunately for external realists, that non-fitting phenomena is the deep foundation of all of what we experience as an “external physical reality”.William J Murray
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re 2: Thanks, Dick. I just read some about Berkeley, and it seems like wjm's philosophy is very much like Berkeley's.jdk
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P.S. I definitely agree with the title of this thread. Trying to interpret what QM "really" means is an exercise in unprovable metaphysics. I think we need to live with the uncertainty of understanding that the ambiguities of QM are what they are, and may not ever resolve into a definite understanding of what "really" is behind the quantum world we can investigate.jdk
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As I quoted one other time, I just finished reading "What Is Real: The Unfinished Quest for the Meaning of Quantum Mechanics", a history of various interpretations of quantum mechanics, including questions of exactly what is real, what is the role of measurement, and how, specifically, has the Copenhagen interpretation fared against other interpretations in light of further experiments in QM. In the summary, Becker wrote this:
While the different possibilities laid out in this book are the most significant historically, and they are all mostly still around in various forms (minus Wigner’s consciousness-based proposal, which has been dismissed as needlessly speculative and vague, and in danger of collapsing into solipsism), many, many more have been proposed in the past thirty years.
Excerpt From: Adam Becker. “What Is Real?.” iBooks I just posted more on this subject in the "WJM throws down the gauntlet" tread.jdk
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Somewhere, George Berkeley (1685-1753) is smiling.Dick
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The implication is not just that the mind is real but also that physical "reality" is subordinate to mind. The real difficulty here is that most theories of mind begin from the materialistic premise that it is "physical reality" that forms or informs the mind.William J Murray
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