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_{April 12, 2008

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DMS, with an as yet undetermined appendage writes:

Might I suggest that “someone” (perhaps a group effort) work up a brief flyer to hand out to people going to see Expelled. It should be non-snarky, non-confrontational, with some simple points and web addresses to go to for more information

Great idea! I think they should shave their heads, wear togas, and chant ziiiiiiii-enzzzzzz ziiiiii-enzzzzz ziiiiii-enzzzzz. People will wonder if the Hare Krishnas are making a comeback and be naturally curious.

Now boys and girls at Ms. ERV’s website please, no applause for this awesome marketing strategy. Just send me money to show your appreciation. Y’all have paypal, right? Of course you do.

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"I wrestle with the same impulse myself, FtK, and from time to time I’ve succumbed to it. And then I take a fresh look at the conditional: “IF you can’t beat ‘em…” And I realize that joining them is, in effect, surrender. I ain’t gonna do that!" Of course, I know you're right Lutepisc, I just get so irritated with the way they act at times. It was getting late last night and I had just read something that Jack wrote about me in another forum. That's no excuse to start name calling and cussing. Interestingly, in church this morning our Pastor addressed this very issue of how we should treat others in these type of situations. Weird how that works sometimes. It's kinda like getting a Bible beating to show you where your going wrong. Honestly, I spend to much time reading their side of the arguments. While I think it's a good idea to understand where they're coming from, all the ridicule wears on a person. In turn, I often succumb to acting like an ass myself. sigh...I'll try to work on it (again).FtK_{April 13, 2008
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What we need to be doing is creating false information that the animation was indeed stolen from Harvard. That was it’ll make the news and get the movie more publicity. The idea that the animation in the movie actually was stolen and that it really is a legal issue is utter ridiculous nonsense. This contrived controversy can only help Expelled. And amusing isn’t it how the main and only controversy that is surrounding the movie isn't even one about the subject of the movie. It goes to show you which side actually has the substance. What would make it even better is that if we could induce a bad law suit by making the other side jump off sides then we could counter sue for slander on the standing that the other side was obviously trying to destroy the credibility of the movie and its purpose strictly for political reasons. I think this kind of a thing would be funny to watch.Frost122585_{April 13, 2008
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-----math student: "I’m confused. What’s so fascist and ridiculous about handing out info? That’s one of this countries oldest traditions and a common practice of many Christian groups." THE MACHINE has been systematically, maliciously, and tyrannically suppressing free speech in classrooms and labs for decades. You don't see the humor in their pathetic plea for a fair hearing on both sides of a controversy?StephenB_{April 13, 2008
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----tribune 7: "Truth beats Ridicule every time." You are right, of course. There is no substitute for truth. For my part, I would like to apply a one-two punch: tell the truth, then ridicule the error. Part of telling the truth is exposing the error in as dramatic a fashion as possible. To sell a good product most effectively one must compare it to the bad product. That's where the ridicule comes in.StephenB_{April 13, 2008
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If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.
I wrestle with the same impulse myself, FtK, and from time to time I've succumbed to it. And then I take a fresh look at the conditional: "IF you can't beat 'em..." And I realize that joining them is, in effect, surrender. I ain't gonna do that!Lutepisc_{April 13, 2008
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I'm confused. What's so fascist and ridiculous about handing out info? That's one of this countries oldest traditions and a common practice of many Christian groups.mathstudent_{April 13, 2008
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We’ll be chanting “Peee-Zzzzeeeee Peee-Zzzzeeeee”. I wonder if they’ll let us in to see the film. Bob, that's a very good idea. Get every evo in this country and yours to sign on. The National Center for Science Education can buy the tickets. It would have an impact :-)tribune7_{April 13, 2008
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Truth beats Ridicule every time. If the evo-mats are right you can ridicule them till the monkeys finish typing Shakespeare and they will still triumph at the end. And vice-versa, of course :-) I think the only time ridicule works is if it is done without real malice -- which can be done i.e The Machine video -- and is used against those with power who are using their power with malice and/or seeking to acquire more power.tribune7_{April 13, 2008
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G'day Charlie & William Wallace, I thought that the most mild aspect of anarchy, namely the misshelving of books in libraries, was a real once off ... until I met a similar type of act. I requested the local city library to purchase a couple of ID friendly resources, one of which was Wells' The Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design. Amazingly - to me - they purchased them. [They may have thought they were anti-ID and would fit in with the usual rhetoric that lines the shelves in public libraries] Anyway, I read and returned them. About six months on I went to look up Wells' book on some point only to find it wasn't there. 'OK, someone's got it out.' So I checked on a return date, only to find there was no book listed. I made an enquiry at the desk only to be told that it wasn't in any file or database ... Arrh, them pesky materialist librarians. I've always thought they were up to no good. All that shush shush shushing ... What bets are there that if I requested the same book to be purchased (ie, in this case read 'replaced') that it won't be because someone had now read it and it didn't fit with the dogma? On that point, has anyone requested their own libraries to purchase some seminal ID literature? What response did you get? I think readers here would be quite interested in this feedback. Anyway, every library carrying a copy of Behe's Edge of Evolution would be a great start!AussieID_{April 13, 2008
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Dave - you've got it wrong. We'll be chanting "Peee-Zzzzeeeee Peee-Zzzzeeeee". I wonder if they'll let us in to see the film.Bob O'H_{April 12, 2008
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Agreed. Anyone who has ever read a Greek play where someone tempted fate... There jokers did this to themselves.wnelson_{April 12, 2008
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What is the one response that will most decisively vanguish your opponent, while at the same time minimize your stress level. R-I-D-I-C-U-L-E Learn the lesson of THE MACHINE . ...."Dick to the doctor the PhD, he smarter that you, he's got a science degree"........ That video wounded our adversaries. You could tell by their comments. Put your imagination to work and ask yourself this question: How can I use humor to describe their desperate and pathetic behavior?StephenB_{April 12, 2008
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There are several reasons why I feel animosity toward Jack, but I'll not go into them here. I apologize to you, Jerry, for having some fun at his expense. It's probably not appropriate in this particular venue. There was a time when I wouldn't believe it to be appropriate anywhere, but I'm sick to death of the way some of Jack's cohorts carry on. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.FtK_{April 12, 2008
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Thanks Jerry.Jack Krebs_{April 12, 2008
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I do not agree with Jack Krebs on much having to do with the evolution debate but what is going on is getting out of hand. Jack is generally very polite so I fail to see the animosity towards him. I rather save it for his positions.jerry_{April 12, 2008
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"The depth of your animosity and the extent of your hyperbolic judgments are scary." I'll tell you what's scary. Have you watched the Expelled clip with Dawkins and PZ? Chilling....FtK_{April 12, 2008
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"I’m not even going to try and be diplomatic about this. These people are Fascists. Yes, that means you too Jack Krebs." LOL...way to go, DD!! [Chances are that you're another sock puppet, but it's hilarious anyway.] Diplomacy be damned! It's an impossible feat in this particular debate.FtK_{April 12, 2008
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to DeepDesign: The depth of your animosity and the extent of your hyperbolic judgments are scary. And when did handing out fliers become a fascist thing to do? Last time I looked, that was a pretty common example of American free speech in action.Jack Krebs_{April 12, 2008
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I might make up my own flyer to carry in with me, to hand to someone who tries to hand me anything similar to what ERV describes. I'll have to ponder the content of said flyer a bit more. But I think that'd be funny.TRoutMac_{April 12, 2008
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Darwinian Fascism. Let's see if we can get Steve Fuller to start writing here.DeepDesign_{April 12, 2008
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I'm not even going to try and be diplomatic about this. These people are Fascists. Yes, that means you too Jack Krebs.DeepDesign_{April 12, 2008
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Handing out anything contrary to Expelled will only exemplify the very message of the film. Please, do it!Gods iPod_{April 12, 2008
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Unbelievable. I've seen similar things occurring in the public libraries--certain books by conservatives being checked out for months on end by liberals just to keep them out of circulation. By the time I get a copy I reserved months before, it is either brand new and unread, or, less common but more annoying, it has liberal commentary hand written in the margins. Of course, the brand new book could be to replace stolen copies. Sickening!William Wallace_{April 12, 2008
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"Special Agent ERV" ROTFLMAO...I like it.FtK_{April 12, 2008
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Hi William, Perhaps I meant to say "misshelving". https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/edge-of-evolution-deliberately-misshelved-by-darwin-zealot/Charlie_{April 12, 2008
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"Makes me miss the high-brow antics of reshelving ID books so they won’t sell." What is reshelving? Putting the books in the wrong section of the book store? And when did this occur?William Wallace_{April 12, 2008
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Handing out flyers sure beats some of their other ideas; like sneaking in to disrupt the showing or pirating the film to destroy its box-office. You might expect more if their leaders weren't Dawkins and Myers. Makes me miss the high-brow antics of reshelving ID books so they won't sell.Charlie_{April 12, 2008
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Opps, sorry about that. I think I stumbled upon a filtered word... You spilled the beans. Maybe they (the evolanders) would have taken DMSO's bait. Now they're likely to think a little longer....and dress up as their favorite star trek character instead. I wouldn't call her a special agent...William Wallace_{April 12, 2008
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Is it broken?William Wallace_{April 12, 2008
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