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Calling Dr. Mengele, Calling Dr. Mengele

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Alasdair Cochrane works at an organization called the Centre for the Study of Human Rights in the UK.  The journal Bioethics has just published Cochrane’s article “Undignified Bioethics” (subscription required), in which he argues that the concept of inherent human dignity should be rejected. Cochrane correctly notes that treating all humans as though they possess inherent dignity merely by virtue of the fact that they are human gets in the way of the really nifty medical experiments we could perform on the defenseless among us if we were to jettison that notion:

This conception of dignity as inherent moral worth certainly seems coherent enough as an idea. Indeed, we can also see why this conception of dignity is employed in certain debates around bioethics. For if all individual human beings possess dignity, then they should not be viewed simply as resources that we can treat however we please. To take an example then, it may be that we could achieve rapid and significant progress in medical science if we were to conduct wide-ranging medical experiments on groups of human beings. However, because human beings have dignity, so it is argued, this means that they possess a particular quality that grounds certain moral obligations and rights. These obligations and rights restrict what we may permissibly do to them. As such, inflicting great harms on individual humans, as would be inflicted in medical experiments, is impermissible on the grounds that human individuals possess dignity. The dignity of individual human beings prevents us from doing certain acts to them, even if those acts would lead to great social benefits.

Therefore, we need to “argue” over which of us humans are exempt from medical experimentation and which of us are fair game for the Mengele wannabes:

Obviously, given controversies over abortion, stem cell research, genetic interventions, animal experimentation, euthanasia and so on, bioethics does need to engage in debates over which entities possess moral worth and why. But these are best conducted by using the notion of ‘moral status’ and arguing over the characteristics that warrant possession of it. Simply stipulating that all and only human beings possess this inherent moral worth because they have dignity is arbitrary and unhelpful. . . . I urge for an undignified bioethics.

This is where materialism inevitably leads. Cochrane believes that human beings are purely material – nothing but matter in motion. Given that premise, how can one argue with his logic? Why should we not treat objects like, well, objects. In a materialist world “justice” is a meaningless word, and the strong exploit the weak for their own ends.

I wonder if Cochrane would stick to his position if we conducted the “argument” he urges upon us and decide that foppish Brit materialists fall in the “exploit at will” category?

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I think DonaldM hit the point precisely. In this materialist philosophy, humans are just a random assembly of matter, with no intrinsic value. How can you "benefit" humans from that point of view? It's like asking how I can "benefit" rocks. "Benefit", as used here, simply means whatever I (Cochrane) want. It has no objective meaning. It's the same problem with Steve Fuller's comment in 16. Who says some lives are "valuable" What's "valuable" mean?jpg564
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My apologies: I left out a negative in my first point! It should read: (1) To say that human life isn’t valuable simply because it’s human is NOT to say that at least some, and maybe even most, human lives are NOT valuable. But the value of their lives lies elsewhere — utility maximisation perhaps?Steve Fuller
January 6, 2010
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Donald M: I think the short answer to your question is the following: (1) To say that human life isn't valuable simply because it's human is NOT to say that at least some, and maybe even most, human lives are valuable. But the value of their lives lies elsewhere -- utility maximisation perhaps? (2) The experiments on humans remain important not only to benefit the valuable humans but also the valuable non-humans as well -- especially given the massive genetic overlap across animal species. For example, experiments on humans may help improve porcine well-being. I realize that you won't be much consoled by this position but it is morally consistent.Steve Fuller
January 6, 2010
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The over-arching question that Chochrane and those of his ilk are answering is "What does it mean to be human?" By his lights, the answer is "not much". If being human does not confer special moral and ethical considerations -- that is to say 'dignity' -- then clearly Cochrane (and those like him) fundamentally reject any notion of the specialness of being human. But that leads to a contradiction in his own line of reasoning. If no special dignity worth considering actually exists where humans are concerned, why bother conducting experiments that might benefit other humans? Cochrane wants it both ways: unrestricted use of humans for scientific experiments, justified by saying that humans have no special dignity that protects them from such actions; using the research to benefit humanity, implying there is something of dignity in humans, if they're worth saving. I'd say he's morally and ethically confused. But he's 100% true to the materialistic worldview.DonaldM
January 6, 2010
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Collin, if it is an inescapable consequence of reality, then what does materialism have to do with it?hrun0815
January 6, 2010
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hrun0815, It's an inescapable consequence of reality. People are poor. It happens. Blaming capitalism is like blaming the sun for death. It's true, no death would occur if there were no sun. But that's because there would be no life.Collin
January 6, 2010
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Isn't people volunteering for medical experiments for cash/medication/coffee/sandwiches/rides/etc rather an inescapable consequence of capitalism rather than materialism?hrun0815
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Acipenser at 6, people who volunteer for Phase I clinical trials are not volunteering for harm. Often, I gather, they are people who have not felt that current medications help them, and are willing to try a new one - especially if it is dispensed free (and coffee and sandwiches are available at the clinic as well - sometimes even free rides or - I've seen this advertised on the Toronto Transit - a bit of cash also). Not only is that covered by what I said at 2 above, but even risky treatment for a deadly disease is covered - provided the patient consents in sound mind while fully informed of the risks. I am concerned about the introduction of experiments on humans that are foreseen to be possibly destructive. A person who consented to that would - at least where I live - be a potential "harm to self." Anyway, why would any medical science establishment want to be involved with that?O'Leary
January 6, 2010
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Folks, This has all been around since the days of Alcibiades, and Plato gave it an early burial in 360 BC in Bk 10, of The Laws; which is of course an early design themed philosophical work. Evolutionary materialism -- around since those days -- is inherently and inescapably amoral. And, we are inherently and inescapably moral (save for those who find ways to benumb the voice of conscience). So, we have a right to be VERY suspicious of doctrines and theories that help to numb the conscience. G'day GEM of TKIkairosfocus
January 6, 2010
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Dr Fuller, "In fact, the only defence of dignity that Cochrane finds philosophically coherent is the theological one that privileges humans above the rest of nature – but the cost of that position is belief in God, which is much too high for him. So that’s off the table." Yeah, that been popular on the threads here for the past days as well.Upright BiPed
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I’ve now read the article. First, it should be said that the author is affiliated with the main UK centre for human rights, which is located at the London School of Economics, and he’s published the article in the UK’s leading bioethics journal. The latest issue of that journal (Feb 2010) also contains an editorial assailing the concept of dignity as incoherent, since it’s normally invoked by BOTH sides of life-and-death debates, such as over the moral status of euthanasia. Of course, this is not the only moral concept to have this quality, but it’s interesting that dignity is being singled out for abuse these days. Steven Pinker, the evolutionary psychologist, went so far as to publish an article in The New Republic on the ‘stupidity’ of dignity a couple of years ago. (Richard Dawkins has helpfully posted it on his website: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/2567 ) As for Cochrane’s article, it’s a typical philosophical critique that hits the concept from all angles but without making explicit its own moral standpoint. In fact, because Cochrane uses ‘dignity’ as a stalking horse to punch holes on all the major ethical theories, except possibly utilitarianism (where ‘dignity’ doesn’t play any special role), it’s not clear what’s left of ethics as such when he’s finished. My sense is that he’s somewhere in Peter Singer country, which takes an ‘open-borders’ approach to species’ moral relevance (i.e. some non-humans may matter more than some humans). In any case, debunking dignity is a really a means to debunk the moral salience of being human, especially when ‘human’ is understood as something other than purely a sentient natural being. In fact, the only defence of dignity that Cochrane finds philosophically coherent is the theological one that privileges humans above the rest of nature – but the cost of that position is belief in God, which is much too high for him. So that’s off the table. Although Darwin is not explicitly part of the argument, I think the softening of intuitions about the moral salience of the human betrays Darwinian influence. In this respect, it’s a bit disappointing that articles of this sort (which are increasing by the day) do not take more explicit aim at the UN Declaration of Human Rights, especially with regard to claims about its supposed ‘ineffectuality’ for having relied on the idea of human dignity. That would make the political stakes of the discussion a bit clearer.Steve Fuller
January 5, 2010
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O'Leary:"Okay, so let’s say a person is volunteering herself for this stuff. She probably is not of sound mind. Her medical, financial, and legal liability affairs should be placed in the hands of a reliable trustee." There are a great number of healthy people who volunteer to have experiments done on them. Phase I clinical trials would be one example. Should we declare these voluntary participants to be unfit and place their possessions and decision making into the hands of another? As for commenting on the content of the article I think I'll wait until I have actually read the article. It just seems prudent to do so and sometimes context means everything.Acipenser
January 5, 2010
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#4 "No, this is not “were [sic] materialism inevitably leads.” This is one guy’s extreme position, but it is not an inevitable consequence of not believing that anything immaterial exists." Evidently it is. Vividvividbleau
January 5, 2010
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No, this is not "were [sic] materialism inevitably leads." This is one guy's extreme position, but it is not an inevitable consequence of not believing that anything immaterial exists.hazel
January 5, 2010
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A perfect illustration as to why the Nazis are at times brought into the Darwin debate.tribune7
January 5, 2010
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Okay, so let's say a person is volunteering herself for this stuff. She probably is not of sound mind. Her medical, financial, and legal liability affairs should be placed in the hands of a reliable trustee. The trustee's duties would NOT include volunteering her for any dangerous experiments unless her own death were otherwise imminent. = Sometimes people with a serious cancer may choose a risky treatment over morphine and flowers. I have walked that road with a few people myself. It is no way similar to being a mere research subject, because in every case the person had chosen the suffering rather than the coffin - and they often won! It's surprising how often they do win. My big worry is that the "Mengele" crowd finds people who are not exactly volunteering. I've heard enough about people "donating" kidneys to support their families to know exactly where this stuff will lead. We already have big problems with illegal immigrants forced into intolerable working conditions. Why add to it, for some - probably imaginary - research goal?O'Leary
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Sounds pretty sick to me. Would he ask people to volunteer for the greater good? Where do I sign up? Haha.Collin
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