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Carry that teapot carefully. There is consciousness in tableware.

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<em>Teapot</em> Cobalt Blue From John Ellis at PJ Media:

The belief that inanimate objects, like rocks and tableware, contain consciousness is quickly picking up steam among respected philosophers and scientists.

The problem for these “credible philosophers, neuroscientists, and physicists” who take panpsychist seriously is, as Goldhill points out, “The materialist viewpoint states that consciousness is derived entirely from physical matter. It’s unclear, though, exactly how this could work.” She cites philosophy professor David Chalmers who noted, “It’s very hard to get consciousness out of non-consciousness.”

While this is an academic discussion on one level, there is another level that directly affects our ethics. The Judeo-Christian worldview and ethics that undergird Western society have as part of their core anthropology the recognition of a distinction between humans and the rest of the creation. The dignity and worth of humans, all humans, is rooted in the fact that we are created in the image of God. Take that away, and society’s ethics will drastically change. Either rocks and tableware will be afforded similar rights as humans, or humans will see our rights taken away. I mean, if there is no real ontological difference between humans and rocks, there’s little reason to treat fellow humans any better than you do the unwanted rock in the middle of your flower bed. More.

This growing consensus that everything is conscious and humans are not special may well underlie the flight from intellectual freedom at universities. People who think the mind is real face different issues with intellectual freedom than people who think that consciousness is an illusion anyway

See also: At Quartz: Materialists are converting to panpsychism

Nearly 50% Americans now think humans are not special

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The illusion of consciousness sees through itself.

2 Replies to “Carry that teapot carefully. There is consciousness in tableware.

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    bornagain77 says:

    How might one go about providing evidence for the belief that “inanimate objects, like rocks and tableware, contain consciousness”?

    Not that evidence ever really mattered to Darwinists in the first place. As Dr Hunter notes, “With Darwinism, The Theory Is Always Driving the Ideas In Spite of the Evidence”.

    Hunter: With Darwinism, “The Theory Is Always Driving the Ideas In Spite of the Evidence”
    https://evolutionnews.org/2018/05/hunter-with-darwinism-the-theory-is-always-driving-the-ideas-in-spite-of-the-evidence/

    But if evidence ever really did matter to Darwinists, again, how would one go about providing evidence for the belief that “inanimate objects, like rocks and tableware, contain consciousness”?

    This seems to run into the same ‘philosophical zombie’ problem that Darwinian materialists now have.

    The problem for these guys ever providing evidence for their position is the ‘problem of ‘qualia’. That is to say, I know for 100% fact that I really do exist and am having a personal subjective experience,, but there is no way for atheists to ever to scientifically prove to me that they really exist as a real people who are having a ‘real’ subjective conscious experience, and that they are not just some type of ‘philosophical zombie’ going through the motion of acting like real person!

    Philosophical Zombies – cartoon
    http://existentialcomics.com/comic/11

    Such as it is with the atheist’s refusal to ever accept any evidence for the personhood of God.

    As Alvin Plantinga pointed out years ago in “God and Other Minds”, “the evidence for God is just as good as the evidence for other minds; and conversely, if there isn’t any evidence for God, then there is also no evidence that other minds exist,,,”

    Another interesting argument comes from the leading philosopher and Christian, Alvin Plantinga—he asked, what evidence does anyone have for the existence of other people’s minds? He argued cogently that the evidence for God is just as good as the evidence for other minds; and conversely, if there isn’t any evidence for God, then there is also no evidence that other minds exist—see God and Other Minds, Cornell University Press, repr. 1990.
    http://creation.com/atheism-is-more-rational

    Although atheists have the impossible task of trying to ‘explain away’ the ‘hard problem of consciousness’ (as is made evident with this current appeal to panpsychism), the Theist, on the other hand, has a much easier task at hand. The Theist merely has to show that the mind can not possibly be the same thing as the material brain.

    One simple way of demonstrating that the mind can not possibly be the same thing as the material brain comes from utilizing the ‘Law Of Identity’ to separate properties of mind from properties of the brain:

    Immaterial Mind – video (Law Of Identity)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720zEnzgTyM

    The Mind and Materialist Superstition – Michael Egnor – 2008
    Six “conditions of mind” that are irreconcilable with materialism: –
    Excerpt: Intentionality,,, Qualia,,, Persistence of Self-Identity,,, Restricted Access,,, Incorrigibility,,, Free Will,,,
    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....13961.html

    Alvin Plantinga humorously uses a clever thought experiment where we have a ‘beetle body’, to highlight the fact, via the ‘law of identity’, that the mind cannot possibly be the same thing as the brain.

    Alvin Plantinga and the Modal Argument (for the existence of the mind/soul) – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOTn_wRwDE0

    Another way for the Theist to clearly prove that consciousness can never be reconciled with materialistic and/or panpsychist presuppositions is to appeal to science itself and point out the fact that quantum mechanics has now repeatedly proven that consciousness must precede material reality.

    Due to advances in quantum mechanics, the argument for God from consciousness can now be framed like this:

    A Short Survey Of Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness
    1. Consciousness either preceded all of material reality or is a ‘epi-phenomena’ of material reality.
    2. If consciousness is a ‘epi-phenomena’ of material reality then consciousness will be found to have no special position within material reality. Whereas conversely, if consciousness precedes material reality then consciousness will be found to have a special position within material reality.
    3. Consciousness is found to have a special, even central, position within material reality.
    4. Therefore, consciousness is found to precede material reality.
    Five intersecting lines of experimental evidence from quantum mechanics that shows that consciousness precedes material reality (Double Slit, Wigner’s Quantum Symmetries, Wheeler’s Delayed Choice, Leggett’s Inequalities, Quantum Zeno effect)

    Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness: 5 Experiments – video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5qphmi8gYE

    The Death of Materialism – InspiringPhilosophy – video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0IKLv7KrE
    Quantum Mechanics has repeatedly confirmed the startling conclusion that (material) reality cannot exist without consciousness first existing.

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    bornagain77 says:

    Of humorous note:

    Atheists find themselves very much in a situation similar to Pinocchio’s. They don’t want to be considered ‘neuronal illusions’ (and/or “philosophical zombies”) and find it embarrassing to admit, given materialistic premises, that they don’t really exist as real persons. Thus, they very much want to be considered real people someday as Theists currently consider themselves to be real people.

    “The Adventures of Pinocchio” by Italian author Carlo Collodi. It was written for children, but in reality it contains some deep metaphors and moral truths. ,,,
    Pinocchio is a boy trapped in the body of a wooden puppet. He is able to do whatever all the other kids of his age can do, but nobody takes him seriously, because he is just a puppet. Pinocchio studies hard and rises to the top of his class, but this makes the other schoolboys jealous. People continuously make fun of him for the way he looks and dresses. The Fox and the Cat, two swindlers, lead him astray and unsuccessfully attempt to murder him. Pinocchio listens more to them than to the good people such as his father Geppetto, the Talking Cricket and the Fairy with Turquoise Hair. Even Candlewick, his best friend, misleads him.
    Pinocchio soon realizes that he is much more than a talking piece of wood, much more than the other puppets in Mangiafuoco’s theater. He has feelings, he can think and can learn from his mistakes. He gains wisdom through the long series of misadventures which lead him to becoming a real boy as reward for his good deeds.
    https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Pinocchio-so-excited-about-being-a-real-boy

    And much like Pinocchio, there is hope that atheists can, someday, be real persons also. To become real persons they must simply have a very strong desire to know (and speak) the truth:

    Jordan Peterson: Lessons from Pinocchio – video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZbU2sbOw0

    Darwinian Cognitive Dissonance Disorder (DCDD). Yes folks, it is a mental disease. But there is hope:
    Cognitive Conditioning and the Distortion of Reality – Brian Miller – April 17, 2018
    Excerpt: On the bright side, I have found that the cognitive conditioning, (i.e. DCDD), can be overcome by those who have a very strong desire to know the truth. And people who leave philosophically oppressive academic institutions often find work in environments that are much more congenial to exploration. The conditioning can then wane, and their design-detection capacities and critical thinking can reengage. At that point, many describe a process where “scales seemed to fall from my eyes,” and the evidence for design in nature becomes self-evident, as does the logical incoherence of many materialist rationalizations to deny it.
    https://evolutionnews.org/2018/04/cognitive-conditioning-and-the-distortion-of-reality/

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