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CHICAGO READER complains about my comparing Jerry Coyne to Herman Munster

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The Chicago Reader, a publication I used to read when living in Chicago, reports on my recent blog post at UD about Jerry Coyne, comparing him to Herman Munster (for the comparison, go here):

Meanwhile, in what seems like an odd move, creationists have chosen to play on Coyne’s home court by claiming to be scientists themselves, and presenting “intelligent design” as an alternative scientific hypothesis to Darwinian evolution (though its advocates put forth no testable predictions). Last year in the case Kitzmiller v. Dover, Pennsylvania federal judge John E. Jones III ruled against that claim after a lengthy trial, but the efforts continue. Coyne’s latest New Republic article (June 18) takes on the new book by intelligent-design advocate Michael Behe, The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism. “IDers never produce their own ‘scientific’ explanation of life,” Coyne concludes. “They just carp about evolution. And as evolutionists explain one thing after another, IDers simply ignore these successes and move on to the ever-dwindling set of unsolved problems in which they continue to see the hand of God.” IDer William Dembski’s response at his blog uncommondescent.com followed this pattern precisely, but also offered his readers specific evidence: that Coyne bears a passing resemblance to Herman Munster!

Three-part reality check:

  1. The problems facing Darwinian evolution are increasing, not dwindling.
  2. ID proponents do have a positive program (e.g., www.evolutionaryinformatics.org).
  3. I wasn’t comparing Jerry Coyne to Herman Munster based merely physical similarity but on the Munsteresque dopeyness of his arguments.

If Coyne wants to be taken seriously, then he needs to behave himself seriously. All I’ve seen from him of late is Darwinian boilerplate — what informed individuals could believe his fatuous defense of Saint Charles. By the way, the Reader article is titled “The Shocking Truth: Jerry Coyne Spreads the Gospel of Evolution.” Don’t these secularists have a clue about how they are shooting themselves in the foot?

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The evolutionaryinformatics.org link still done't work. Can anyone shed any light on what has happened?Grayman
August 8, 2007
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Perhaps resorting to name-calling isn't they best way to represent ID to our society. Most people interested in this debate don't respond to such tactics. By the way, the link to the Lab at Baylor doesn't work.IrishFather412
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[...] Dr. Dembski provides a three part reality check to a Chicago Reader who complained about his comparing Jerry Coyne to Herman Munster. [...]Weekly SWBTS Blogetin Board « Straight out of the SWBTS Blogosphere
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H'mm: On :
creationists have chosen to play on Coyne’s home court by claiming to be scientists themselves, and presenting “intelligent design” as an alternative scientific hypothesis to Darwinian evolution
By no reasonable standard can Mr Behe be described as a Creationist in any sense that would distinguish "creationists" and "scientists." GEM of TKIkairosfocus
August 1, 2007
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"creationists have chosen to play on Coyne’s home court by claiming to be scientists themselves"
When will these legacy media nerds grow up and start thinking their own thoughts? All they ever do is show how terribly ignorant they are by repeating the Darwinian mantras over and over without ever checking out whether the mantras have become old, obsolete and moldy like the inane one cited by the ignoramus from Chicago Reader. You'd think they'd figure out that they themselves, anything but scientists of any kind, are merely chanting the politically correct versions they prefer without wit, investigation, logic or even eloquence.Borne
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"I try to avoid criticizing my own side." An unmistakable manifestation of an ideologue.mike1962
July 31, 2007
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I object to likening Jerry Coyne to Herman Hunster on the grounds that A) it is insulting to Herman Munster, and B) Coyne looks much more like Arnold Horshack. (Sorry, Arnold.)mike1962
July 31, 2007
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As Augustine put it, "the ridiculous deserves to be ridiculed"Mathetes
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Bill wrote: Don’t these secularists have a clue about how they are shooting themselves in the foot? A few do, and in an unguarded moment, they will acknowledge disappointment with Coyne:
Coyne Lays an Egg Ronald Reagan famously defined the eleventh commandment to be, “Thou shalt not criticize a fellow Republican.” I'm a big fan of the spirit, if not the substance, of that statement. Generally speaking, I try to avoid criticizing my own side. ..... Sometimes, however, it's a hard rule to live by. This is one of those times. Jerry Coyne has published a very long review of Michael Behe's book The Edge of Evolution, for The New Republic. .... Simply put, his review of EoE is a terrible piece of work. Jason Rosenhouse
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creationists have chosen to play on Coyne’s home court by claiming to be scientists themselves Here's an interesting exercise. Prove someone's not a scientist. Now, obviously, it can be done but pondering the methodolgy is enlightening.tribune7
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