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Dawkins’s use of hip hop against ID

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Have a listen to the following segment from Dawkins’s documentary against religion (“The Root of All Evil?”):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUy-Uq3WuhA

Who is the rapper that did this rendition of the Lord’s Prayer?

For your further edification, here is another bit of vintage Dawkins from that documentary:

The God of the Old Testament has got to be the most unpleasant character in all fiction. Jealous and proud of it, petty, vindictive, unjust, unforgiving, racist, an ethnic cleanser, urging His people on to acts of genocide… Now, of course, the good Christians will be protesting. Everyone knows the Old Testament is deeply unpleasant. Jesus, they claim, undoes the damage, and makes it all right. Yes, there is no doubt that from a moral point of view, Jesus is a huge improvement, because Jesus, or whoever wrote His lines, was not content to derive His ethics from the Scriptures with which He’d been brought up. But then, it all goes wrong. The heart of New Testament theology, invented after Jesus’ death, is in Paul’s nasty, sado-masochistic doctrine of atonement for original sin. The idea is that God had Himself incarnated as a man, Jesus, in order that He should be hideously tortured and executed to redeem all our sins. Not just the original sin of Adam and Eve, future sins as well, whether we decide to commit them or not.

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Regarding Richard Dawkins video of church life in Colorado ...I once saw a video made by an Australian TV crew that got into Richard Dawkins home and started talking to him about science and then challenged him about his atheism and his evolutionism. Richard initially thought their interest was scientific and later complained the crew caught him off guard. Now his has dealt to Colorado Christians what was done to him. Ted Haggard should have been forewarned. One classic Dawkin's propaganda line is to say over and over again that "his enemies" (he has several names for them, Fundamentalists, Evangelicals, etc) are "fighting science". His propaganda runs along the lines 1. Explain that Fundamentalists (the enemy) think Genesis explains everything about biological origins. 2. Attribute to anyone who does not accept RM+NS=All Biology some Fundamantalist tendencies. 3. Therefore American Evangelicals are engaged in a war against science. 4. The economy of the West will be ruined by these enemies. 5. Stir this up, heat it up and throw it around. Will Richard D. have any credibility left in 10 years? As I understand ID we are arguing for more and better science, not less.RussellBelding
May 22, 2006
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"Some people need assistance to commit suicide." Thus Dawkins does not reside in my state--Oregon--which is where they unfortunately have you know what.Rude
May 22, 2006
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I was shocked to see this man Dawkins enter a house of worship and attack the doctrine of its people. I am in awe of the pastor's restraint at this naked savagery. Truly we are what we believe we are. The idea that these old empire throwbacks (evolutionists) would be welcomed in Canada is alarming. Thanks for the warning, Mr. Dawkins.Collin DuCrâne
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Tina: I will add this though. Some people need assistance to commit suicide. Others commit it on their own. When it comes to intellectual suicide, Dawkins falls in the latter category.William Dembski
May 22, 2006
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There is little content in Dawkins' rant that needs "meaningful response". It is self-refuting. "Evil" is meaningless apart from a theistic worldview. Much as it pains me to say this, for people who hate God so much, hell is probably a better place for them to go than heaven. After all, spending eternity with someone you passionately hate is worse than hell, isn't it?formlessandvoid
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Sorry, Tina, but I'm not going to take the bait, tempting as it is.William Dembski
May 22, 2006
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Dr. Dembski you are proving yourself very adept at painting the enemy. How about putting some intellectual energy into actually responding to the points he makes? Does it really satisfy you to use him as a poster child? What is the point of posting someone's opinions and then failing to respond meaningfully to them? It is just a gesture of self-righteousness. "look how bad he is. we are so much better!"tinabrewer
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Mr. Dawkins won't be an atheist forever, just like Madeline isn't now. Great quote, Mats.jacktone
May 22, 2006
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Wow, Bill, I can almost feel the "love" Richard have for God. It reminds me of the words of Dr Duane T. Gish regarding Mrs O'Hair (the woman who fought against prayer in class): (Paraphrase) "I don't believe that Mrs Murray is really an atheist. How can she hate Someone so much, yet claim that He doesn't exist?"Mats
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Rude@3 Christians have no problems with the Hebrew Bible ("Old Testament"). As for violating "our modern pieties"; so? Our "modern pieties" condone things that are just abominable.Mats
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Dawkins is good at expressing what others believe but avoid expressing (even thinking) and at fleshing out the illogical positions of others (and for that matter the illogical positions of himself). Just as he embarrasses the nice Naturalists here he threatens to discomfit comfortable Christians who have never really reconciled the two Testaments, let alone the historical baggage of their faith. The Deity of the Torah violates our modern pieties and those of our fathers too, and this by his own admission (Isaiah 55:8): For my thoughts are not your thoughts [כִּי לֹא מַחְשְׁבוֹתַי מַחְשְׁבוֹתֵיכֶם], neither are your ways my ways [וְלֹא דַרְכֵיכֶם דְּרָכָי], saith the LORD [נְאֻם ה׳].Rude
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Dawkins wins the award for "Most Uncomfortable Person in a Church".Qualiatative
May 22, 2006
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A commenter on another thread asked that we be more sympathetic toward atheists, since their unbelief generally stemmed from lack of direct (physical?) experience of the Creator. But Dawkins is a prime example of another kind of atheist---the kind that typifies passionate, activist atheism. Dawkins does not merely doubt the existance of God, but is openly hostile toward God (or more accurately, his caricature of God). If Dawkins could have the direct experience of the Diety that the commenter implied was all that was needed to produce belief, then I suspect Dawkins would be horrified, angered, disappointed and frustrated by the experience.russ
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Al Deshion Nezy
"Da PreachaMan"
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snip@yahoo.com

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005O0LR

This information is incorrect -- Al Nezy did not do the rap rendition of the Our Father in Dawkins's video. Go here: https://uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1156. --WmAD

Gods iPod
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