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Alien tripod by Alvim Corréa, 1906 French edition of H.G. Wells’ “War of the Worlds”

From astrophysicist Ethan Siegel at Forbes:

Again, Earth is our only laboratory for this, but let’s be optimistic in the absence of evidence, and assume there’s a 1-in-1,000 chance that a world that starts with a primitive, replicating, information-encoding strand of life can lead to something like the Cambrian explosion. That gives us 10,000 worlds in the Milky Way teeming with diverse, multicellular, highly differentiated forms of life. Given the distance between the stars, that means there’s likely another planet where this has occurred just a few hundred light years away.

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The uncertainties here are huge, and any number that you can pick is as ill-motivated as any other. Someday in the future, we’ll have the capability of performing our first tests, however. When our telescope technology enables us to determine the atmospheric contents of worlds, we can look for the presence or absence of biosignatures like methane, molecular oxygen, and carbon dioxide. It will be indirect evidence, but it should be an incredible step towards inferring whether worlds have life on them or not. If we say there’s a 1-in-10,000 chance that a potentially habitable world has life on it, as good a guess as any, that means there are 10 million worlds in the Milky Way where life exists.More.

Would you invest in a scheme like this?

The Drake equation is unfixable because it is based on a hope (we are not alone) created to avoid confronting a fear (we are alone). It’ll never die. But it is fun.

See also: Obituary column: By the time we hear from the space aliens,they will be dead

Comments
From the article:
If we say there's a 1-in-10,000 chance that a potentially habitable world has life on it, as good a guess as any,
Blithering nonsense. This one estimate explains why the Drake Equation is stupid. Every OOL researcher knows that the chances of life arising on this plant by sheer dumb luck were astonishingly small. Some even invoke the multiverse to overcome the probablistic obstacles. The author blithely ignores these facts and instead of estimating the odds at "astonishingly small," pulls 1 in 10,000 out his nether regions. The exercise fails to some degree at every level, but it fails most spectacularly at this level. You can have your Drake Equation. I'll take the Fermi paradox any day. Why? Because it is based on facts, not pulling risible estimates from one's nether regions. Barry Arrington
April 9, 2018
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Siegal article is basically an exercise in materialistic wish fulfillment. I hate to burst Ethan Siegel's "ET's are out there somewhere" bubble, but the way to 'fix' the Drake equation is to put some realistic numbers in it about what we do know about what it takes to have a planet that can support life and not to pussyfoot around the edges of the Drake equation as he did in his article.
Eric Metaxas - Does Science Argue for or against God? - (Sagan's estimate based on the Drake equation shown to be overly optimistic) - animated video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjGPHF5A6Po
Much to the disappointment of Star Trek fans (and Siegal), the avalanche of recent scientific evidence has found the probability of finding another planet with the ability to host simple life, much less advanced life, in this universe is not nearly as likely as astronomer Frank Drake, and Carl Sagan, had originally predicted. Many conditions are required to be met in order to have a planet that can host life. Here is the final summary of Dr. Hugh Ross’s ‘conservative’ estimate for the probability of finding another life-hosting world in this universe.
Linked from Appendix C from Dr. Ross's book, 'Why the Universe Is the Way It Is'; Probability Estimates for the Features Required by Various Life Forms: Excerpt: Requirements to sustain bacteria for 90 days or less: Probability for occurrence of all 501 parameters approx. 10-614 dependency factors estimate approx. 10^-303 longevity requirements estimate approx. 10^22 Probability for occurrence of all 501 parameters approx. 10^-333 Maximum possible number of life support bodies in observable universe approx. 10^22 Thus, less than 1 chance in 10^311 exists that even one such life-support body would occur anywhere in the universe without invoking divine miracles. Requirements to sustain unicellar life for three billion year: Probability for occurrence of all 676 parameters approx. 10^-859 dependency factors estimate approx. 10^-303 longevity requirements estimate approx. 10^22 Probability for occurrence of all 676 parameters approx. 10^-578 Maximum possible number of life support bodies in observable universe approx. 10^22 Thus, less than 1 chance in 10^556 exists that even one such life-support body would occur anywhere in the universe without invoking divine miracle Requirements to sustain intelligent physical life: Probability for occurrence of all 816 parameters approx. 10^-1333 dependency factors estimate approx. 10^-324 longevity requirements estimate approx. 10^45 Probability for occurrence of all 816 parameters approx. 10^-1054 Maximum possible number of life support bodies in observable universe approx. 10^22 Thus, less than 1 chance in 10^1032 exists that even one such life-support body would occur anywhere in the universe without invoking divine miracle http://d4bge0zxg5qba.cloudfront.net/files/compendium/compendium_Part3_ver2.pdf http://www.reasons.org/explore/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/read/tnrtb/2010/11/16/rtb-design-compendium-2009
When one factors in some realistic numbers for the probability of 'simple' bacterial life randomly coming together in this universe, the probability for a planet which may host 'simple' life in the universe explodes into gargantuan proportions:
Miracles in Evolutionary Theory – July 28, 2016 Any sufficiently advanced improbability is indistinguishable from a miracle. Excerpt: In Signature in the Cell, building on research by Douglas Axe on protein function, Stephen Meyer calculated the probability of one relatively short protein 150 amino acids in length as being one chance in 10 to the 164th power (10-164, pp. 210-212). In other words, expecting just one protein by chance exceeds the universal probability bound calculated by William Dembski (10-150) by 14 orders of magnitude -- 100 trillionth the chance! The word "miracle" doesn't even come close to belief in such an event. Yet these evolutionists want us to believe that somewhere between 355 and 463 genes or protein products, all working in concert, emerged by chance. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/07/miracles_in_evo103032.html Signature in the Cell - Book Review - Ken Peterson Excerpt: If we assume some minimally complex cell requires 250 different proteins then the probability of this arrangement happening purely by chance is one in 10 to the 164th multiplied by itself 250 times or one in 10 to the 41,000th power. http://www.spectrummagazine.org/reviews/book_reviews/2009/10/06/signature_cell
In particular, Siegal wants to know if there are "extraterrestrials who are intelligent the way we're intelligent"
7.) ft: the fraction of those worlds which presently house a scientifically/technologically advanced civilization. This is a superior question to the ones asked by the Drake equation. Who cares if this is the first or the tenth time a technologically advanced civilization arose? Who cares if they're using radio waves? Who cares if they blow themselves up or self-extinct, or whether they have spacefaring ambitions or not? The big question is whether there are extraterrestrials who are intelligent the way we're intelligent, and that means scientifically and technologically advanced. There's no evidence for this anywhere other than Earth, of course, which means there's a huge range of possibilities. It could be easy, like 1% of them get there, or it could be a freak coincidence that humanity arose at all, and the odds could be more like one-in-a-billion.,,,
Might I suggest that the much more interesting answer to the question of "intelligent the way we're intelligent" is that we are made in the image of God instead of some undiscovered ET that may or may not be similar to us in terms of intelligence?
Humanity - Chemical Scum or Made in the Image of God? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElBWAwjPzyM Excerpt: although humans are fairly defenseless creatures in the wild compared to other creatures, such as lions, bears, and sharks, etc.., nonetheless, humans have, completely contrary to Darwinian ‘survival of the fittest’ thinking, managed to become masters of the planet, not by brute force, but simply by our unique ability to communicate information and, more specifically, infuse information into material substrates,, What is more interesting still, besides the fact that humans have a unique ability to understand and create information and have become 'masters of the planet' through the ‘top-down’ infusion of information into material substrates, is the fact that, due to advances in science, both the universe and life itself are now found to be ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis.,,,
“The most fundamental definition of reality is not matter or energy, but information–and it is the processing of information that lies at the root of all physical, biological, economic, and social phenomena.” Vlatko Vedral – Professor of Physics at the University of Oxford, and CQT (Centre for Quantum Technologies) at the National University of Singapore, and a Fellow of Wolfson College – a recognized leader in the field of quantum mechanics.
It is hard to imagine a more convincing scientific proof that we are made ‘in the image of God’ than finding both the universe, and life itself, are both ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis, and that we, of all the creatures on earth, uniquely possess an ability to understand and create information, and, moreover, have come to ‘master the planet’ precisely because of our unique ability infuse information into material substrates. Perhaps a more convincing evidence that we are made in the image of God and that our lives have meaning and purpose could be if God Himself became a man, defeated death on a cross, and then rose from the dead to prove that He was indeed God. But who has ever heard of such a thing as that?
“Christianity is not merely religious truth, it is total truth — truth about the whole of reality.” - Francis Schaeffer - Copernican Principle, Agent Causality, and Jesus Christ as the “Theory of Everything” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NziDraiPiOw Matthew 28:18 Jesus came to them and said: I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth!
Of humorous note from a SETI documentary:
Tyson: "Their (SETIs) goal is the ultimate prize in the life finding game. Someone out there we can talk to." Shostak: "Nothing to do but sit here and wait for them to call." (And exactly at that moment the phone rings right behind Shostak). Shostak: "And on cue they've called." - quotes as stated at 11:22 minute mark - Where are the Aliens Origins Nova Neil Degrasse Tyson - video - https://youtu.be/t1ReViBCDOs?t=667
As a Christian who has seen a few answered prayers during my life, I find it strange that the SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) organization spends millions of dollars vainly searching for signs of extra-terrestrial life in this universe, when all anyone has to do to make solid contact with THE primary 'extra-terrestrial intelligence' of the entire universe is to pray with a sincere heart. God, who created heaven and earth, certainly does not hide from those who sincerely seek Him. I would think that personally communicating with the Creator of the universe would be a lot more exciting than not communicating with some little green men that in all realistic probability, given naturalism, do not even exist.
Isaiah 45:18-19 For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens, who is God, who formed the earth and made it, who established it, who did not create it in vain, who formed it to be inhabited: “I am the Lord, and there is no other. I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth; I did not say to the seed of Jacob, ‘seek me in vain’; I, the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.”
bornagain77
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