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Flagellum Animation Files — available on ARN

William Dembski
November 7, 2005
Intelligent Design
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http://www.arn.org/mm/mm_movies.htm

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This has some good pictures: http://naturalselection.0catch.com/Files/Flagellum.htmlMGD
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Watch the video - their reasearch is fascinating. Their focus is not on the motor itself, but how the fillament is constructed. The inner-workings of the motor remain largely unknown.Giff
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Dr. Behe has commented that these types of computer representations are actually somewhat "cartooned" and that the real flagellum looks considerably more complex. I read this in his examination transcript on Day 10 (I think) of the Dover trial.Bombadill
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These weren't created by ID people - hence no motivation at all to make it look artificially designed. An article on the research project is available here: http://www.nanonet.go.jp/english/mailmag/2004/011a.htmlGiff
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How accurate are those computer generated animations compared with the real thing? I'm just worried that someone could claim that the animations have been made to make the flagellum look like an artificially designed system and that the real thing is quite different. Is there anything to compare it against?harvey
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woah! There they are again. Either my mind (physical brain) is playing tricks on me, or something screwy is going on with this comment board.Bombadill
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Well, my links dissapeared. Tester, if you'd like to post an email address, I'd be happy to send you some links to papers.Bombadill
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That's hot ID on ID action.Bombadill
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Certainly, Taster's Choice. You can begin your research with these: http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_mousetrapdefended.htm http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_selforganizationreplytoshanksandjoplin.htm http://www.trueorigin.org/behe01.asp http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_trueacidtest.htm http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_indefenseofbloodclottingcascade.htmBombadill
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Bombadill, Could you point me to the numerous papers that Behe has written invalidating flagella evolution, I want to get some HOT ID ACTION!!!!!!!testerschoice
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Riiiight, ajl. Maybe Dr. Behe should have considered this elaborate 3D animation before writing numerous papers detailing how it couldn't have. ;)Bombadill
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well, I guess that flagger assembly in the 5th video shows it really could be created in a step-by-step fashion ;-)ajl
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Wow! That's good stuff regardless of what side of the debate you're on.crandaddy
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