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For Those Keeping Count, Colorado Had Negative 272 COVID Deaths Friday

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The Colorado Department of Health has been caught inflating COVID 19 deaths. A state lawmaker has requested a criminal investigation.

He also provided another letter dated April 17 from the Someren Glen senior care center to its staff, residents, and residents’ families. The Centennial facility’s letter said CPDHE had overruled the cause of death findings by attending physicians in order to list seven deaths as being caused by COVID-19.

This will come as a surprise to absolutely no one. In March, the scientific advisor to the Italian Minister of Health stated: “On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three.”

The same thing has been going on in Colorado. The Department of Heath said:

“We classify a death as confirmed when there was a case who had a positive SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) laboratory test and then died. We also classify some deaths as probable,” their statement said.

That method changed, however, on Friday. Colorado Gov. Jared Polis and CDPHE announced that going forward, cases in which people had COVID-19 and died of another cause will be recorded separately from the deaths that were caused by COVID-19.

And with the new counting protocol, poof! Colorado’s COVID death count dropped overnight from 1,019 to 878.

In a separate story, it was reported that the governor has ordered the state’s Department of Health to stop tinkering with the numbers:

Polis said when there is a gray area, state officials should rely on the ruling from the coroner or physicians and that “nobody behind a desk should ever second-guess a coroner or an attending physician that lists the cause of death on a certificate.”

“I’ve told [CDPHE] to make sure they’re very clear in their reporting,” he said.

Polis added that there are only a few cases where the official cause of death isn’t clear.

“What the people of Colorado want to know is not who died with COVID, but who died of COVID-19,” Polis said. 

In its defense, the Department of Health said they were just doing what CDC told them to do. Exactly. CDC told them to inflate the numbers and they did. Colorado is just one state of 50, a smaller one at that. One wonders where the COVID death numbers would stand if all of the states adjusted their numbers to reflect reality instead of political diktats.

Scaremongers like Orthomyxo have pushed back against the mountain of evidence that deaths were being over-counting, even insisting that, if anything, deaths have been under- counted. The truth is becoming harder and harder to deny. And that must infuriate the Orthos of this world who have been frenetically trying to keep us all in panic mode.

Speculation regarding the motives of the scaremongers abounds. Some have suggested that it is in progressives’ interest to keep the population terrified, because they believe terrified voters will turn on the bad orange man in November.

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In one of many ironies involving the coronavirus, data suggests that Asian-Americans – who have weathered bigotry and attacks as suspected disease carriers – are the least likely to be infected or die from the scourge out of all ethnic groups in the US. Data on Covid-19 infections and mortality in New York City broken down by ethnicity suggests Asians have the lowest infection and mortality rates of any group. Similar figures from Los Angeles found Asians had the lowest infection rate among all groups. Cindy Song, a retired government employee living in Washington, saw the Covid-19 storm coming and hunkered down. Alerted by Chinese friends on social media about the danger, by early March she had cancelled all travel plans and doctor’s appointments, was avoiding restaurants, acquaintances or supermarkets and wore masks and kept her distance on the rare times she ventured out. “ We already knew the disease, the virus, was really lethal, really bad stuff,” said Song, a native of Jiangsu province. “But whenever we got out and saw other people, and people we knew, they would give us this feeling that we were just overreacting.” https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3084947/asians-us-least-likely-get-coronavirus-infection-data-suggestsrhampton7
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The shuttering of another German slaughterhouse to stem a coronavirus outbreak added to calls for tighter rules in an industry long criticized for poor working conditions and crowded accommodation for seasonal staff. Production at the meat plant in Lower Saxony was halted Monday after 92 of its workers tested positive for Covid-19, the district of Osnabrueck said in a statement. The infected staff, many of whom live together, have since been quarantined. More than 1,000 workers at European slaughterhouses from Ireland to Germany have contracted the disease, highlighting the growing challenges the global meat industry faces from the pandemic. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/virus-outbreak-at-german-meat-factory-adds-to-crisis-in-industryrhampton7
May 18, 2020
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Then there is this, according to NPR we spent 660 million dollars on field hospitals for this SUNY Stone Brook, zero patients. SUNY Old Westbury, zero patients. McCormick Place , 37 patients. West Chester County, zero patients. Colorado Convention Center , zero patients. Miami Beach Convention, zero patients. Sherman Hospital , zero patients. Metro South Medical, zero patients. West lake Hospital, zero patients. Wisconsin State Fair, zero patients. Suburban Collection 6 patients. Javits Center, 1095 patients. TCF Center, 39 patients. Vividvividbleau
May 18, 2020
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Then there is this https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/18/telegraph-uk-lockdown-a-result-of-the-most-devastating-software-mistake-of-all-time/ Vividvividbleau
May 18, 2020
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Recently listened to an hour long you tube interview who did a study for anti bodies on the employees of the MLB. Pretty interesting stuff. Here is the bottom line. Thanks to China the lockdowns came to late. Only .007% tested for the anti bodies which means we may not have even scratched the surface as to “herd immunity”. We have shut down our economy needlessly and get prepared for second and third waves as all those who have been locked down go out and about. Vividvividbleau
May 18, 2020
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Why hold Trump accountable for the fact that we, the people, don't live healthy lifestyles? Why hold him accountable for natural selection? What this has exposed is the fact that nursing homes are NOT giving their residents the proper nutrition nor the proper care.ET
May 18, 2020
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EG, it is very obvious that there are two sides to the issue but given polarisation, stunts like that are to be expected. Lives are of transfinite worth (on good authority) so the only reasonable debate is that we face a dismal tradeoff of lives lost vs lives lost: a plague will kill, a prolonged lockdown also kills though less directly. If we were a sane civilisation, evidence on cost effective drugs would have been addressed and degree and durations of lock downs and quarantines would be calibrated to the net minimal loss. The contrast between what might have been and what is (as well as how our chattering classes discuss) is telling. KFkairosfocus
May 18, 2020
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KF
As it is, lockdown on plague fears has become part of a political calculus on assumption that people vote their pocketbooks so if we can scapegoat Mr X, we can unseat him and get back to our worldview-infused political/cultural agenda. If you are implicitly willing to influence a decision on the dismal balance of pandemic deaths vs recession/depression deaths towards creating needless harm to win an election, that is demonically sick.
I agree. And, hopefully, Trump will someday be held accountable.Ed George
May 18, 2020
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Ortho:
I mean… yes, transcription is a chemical reaction and teh proofreading steps are generally carried out by RNA polymerases.
What initiates and directs it?
You may think the system was designed for high fidelty (and, to be clear, I don’t really care what conclusion you make on that count), but I don’t think anyone thinks a mind is at play during transcription or translation.
Mind? No. Just programming. And yes, proof-reading, error-correction, editing and splicing all require knowledge. And no one cares that you don't think that they do. You definitely cannot demonstrate those can happen without knowledge.ET
May 18, 2020
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UB, it is time to draw conclusions about the merits, given that consistently very weak dismissive arguments have been used. Likewise, the persistent resort to weak dismissive arguments shows balance on ability to address substance. In this context, the case of a WIKI image showing interwoven, human mitochondrial DNA code, with start and stop is absolutely telling: https://uncommondescent.com/informatics/an-example-of-interwoven-protein-code-ht-wiki/ The interweaving of code of course exponentiates functional specificity; I thanked my lucky stars I never had to try that with machine code. That image is in its own way an utterly iconic admission against interest. KFkairosfocus
May 18, 2020
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I’m sorry ub, but I find this entirely underwhelming with regards to Barry’s original claim.
As I said in the original thread Ortho, if Ed's cop out is your cop out, then take it.Upright BiPed
May 18, 2020
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MS, As material context, you may want to scroll up to 29, with AS78:
Now when it comes to how political this virus is, there is definitely a political war involved with this virus It has been my experience that those that are very much for this quarantine and want to lock everything down almost indefinitely are extremely liberal. And extreme conservatives that want to kill the lock down Point in case I would definitely look at the numbers between Michigan and Texas Most the people that challenged me on this are liberal I’d say about 78% of the time My friends commented about how this disease took away the one thing that the president had going for him was not the only time that has been stated to me, which got me counting the perspectives I have noticed that it is definitely a tug-of-war Between two parties that are using this disease to gain power and to get rid of somebody that they don’t like I’m not a big fan of the president ( he says some amazingly dumb things) but I have found that the Democrats are incredibly underhanded so there’s not really one party here in America that you can honestly trust So when you say it’s a political circus, it very much is, and I am actually very sick of it But the two struggling parties are equally guilty even though it is my opinion that the Democrats are more guilty than the Republicans in this cases when It to comes being manipulative and dishonest
That is the sort of material from which fatal disaffection grows, once things slide downslope from there. KFkairosfocus
May 18, 2020
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BA, personal incredulity of course is too often a manifestation of selective hyperskepticism. Institutionalised, it becomes part of ideological closed mindedness. If that is entrenched in power, it can take a polity over the edge of an abyss. Changing the metaphor, if the ideologically blinkered, power-drunk mutineers seize the ship of state, they will predictably take it to shipwreck. And yes, that is Plato's Socrates in The Republic Bk VI. KFkairosfocus
May 18, 2020
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MS, it seems you are snipping two things out of context and stitching them into a wholly other thing. I spoke to something I am frankly worried about in the manifest falling apart of the US as a polity; where 4th gen war is a shadow war that is often unacknowledged as such -- it took decades in my homeland. In that context, there is something very ugly indeed about how a pandemic is being managed, multiplied by several other truly ugly developments that frankly threaten to set fatal disaffection loose. Historically, that has incalculable cost, usually with dire consequences, e.g. Syria and Egypt leading up to c 628 - 40 under the Byzantine empire. If you don't hear a plea to pull back from apocalypse similar to 1914, you haven't heard it right. By contrast, the caricature in question is a refusal to look at information-infused layers in information systems and to then misrepresent UB and others as though we were rejecting that there is a physical layer in such. KFkairosfocus
May 18, 2020
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KF @ 45: "Folks, the US is one step removed from deliberate plagues as part of its 4th gen unacknowledged civil war. That is how bad this is. As it is, lockdown on plague fears has become part of a political calculus on assumption that people vote their pocketbooks so if we can scapegoat Mr X, we can unseat him and get back to our worldview-infused political/cultural agenda." KF@46: "Ortho, drop the strawman caricatures of UB or me please." You want him to stop quoting you then?MatSpirit
May 18, 2020
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Ortho, drop the strawman caricatures of UB or me please. We are very aware of a physical layer, the issue is the higher, information processing infused layers, codes, protocols and procedures. Architecture of systems is a thing. KF PS: Automated proofreading, editing to get mRNA etc uses atoms etc but is addressing issues at much higher levels. The ones just mentioned. I am thinking materialist ideology is blinkering you directly or indirectly so you are not seeing the information processing infused layers. Beyond a point pseudo-clever rhetorical stunts based on such blinkering backfire. As Jesus once warned, "Matt 6:22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy,[c] your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are unhealthy,[d] your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" kairosfocus
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Folks, the US is one step removed from deliberate plagues as part of its 4th gen unacknowledged civil war. That is how bad this is. As it is, lockdown on plague fears has become part of a political calculus on assumption that people vote their pocketbooks so if we can scapegoat Mr X, we can unseat him and get back to our worldview-infused political/cultural agenda. If you are implicitly willing to influence a decision on the dismal balance of pandemic deaths vs recession/depression deaths towards creating needless harm to win an election, that is demonically sick. Where, closely linked, is unwillingness to acknowledge steadily accumulating empirical evidence supportive of HCQ cocktails as a buy time for immune system to kill the infection treatment. (There are no true "cures" for highly infectious viruses.) Do we really read the signs of our times? KF PS: FWIW, and this is far, far from endorsement [for cause . . .], I would suggest that between the emerging scandal of policing agencies and courts [starting with FISA] getting politicised and carrying out vendettas that now have documents with smoking gun handwriting finally reaching the public after 2 years of delay tactics, the inconsistency on "me Too" now affecting a campaign, blatant media bias, social media censorship [as in we can be platforms and prblishers unacountable over what we implicitly endorse] other issues leading to rising polarisation, the smart money bets on Peasant Rebellion 2, with 3 likely to follow. Get used to the age of peasant uprisings by ballot box, or it will become by the bullet box. And, trends are key to analysis.kairosfocus
May 18, 2020
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I mean, you were incredulous that the genetic code worked through chemical reactions. UB keeps explaining the reactions and how they relate to each other. I think the only polite thing I can say is that I can't see how this amounts to a defence of your position.orthomyxo
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Ortho
I’m sorry ub, but I find this entirely underwhelming
All you've got is personal incredulity? Why didn't you say so in the first place and we wouldn't have wasted time on you?Barry Arrington
May 18, 2020
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Barry, I'm simply replying to ET, who seems to think transcription proofreading requires knowledge, I don't see that it does. I'm sorry ub, but I find this entirely underwhelming with regards to Barry's original claim.orthomyxo
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. Ortho at #14
enumerated some of the reactions and tried to make something out of the word discontinuous.
I did not try “to make something out of the word discontinuous”, and it is deceptive on your part to dismiss the science in those terms. I told you the critical physical condition of the system (described as such in the literature) that allows the system to function as it does, in a material universe determined by inexorable physical law. The gene system must have the physical freedom to specify itseIf, as well as any variation of itself. In case it has not occurred to you, there is no ”capacity to specify” recorded among the physical properties of matter listed on the periodic table, and binding those atoms together does not suddenly create that capacity. It is only established by a particular type of arrangement of matter; one that, as Michael Polanyi noted, “harnesses the laws of inanimate nature” but in an arrangement that is ”irreducible to those laws”. That is exactly what a physical analysis of the system has demonstrated, and is exactly what has been recorded in the literature. Take out a piece of paper and write the words “DNA codon” at the top of the page. Drop down a few inches below and write the words “mRNA codon”. Drop down further still and write the words “charged tRNA anti-codon”, and below that write the phrase “amino acid presented for binding”. You can now draw a straight line from the top of the page to the bottom, indicating the chain of chemical interactions that begins with a codon of DNA and results in an amino acid being presented for binding during protein synthesis. This would include the processes of transcription, translation and polymerization. But as you will quickly notice, there is no chemical reaction in that chain of events that actually specifies which particular amino acid is being presented for binding. You can now draw another line (joining your original line, but perpendicular to it) directly underneath the words “charged tRNA anti-codon”. At the end of this new perpendicular line, you can now write the word “aaRS”. The set of aaRS are the molecules in biology that specify which particular amino acids will be associated with each tRNA anticodon. And as I told you before, the work of the aaRS is both temporally and spatially independent of the chain of events represented by the first line you drew down the page. This independence, introduced only by the organization of the system, is what allows the system to function as it does – to specify itself among alternatives. Hence, the word “discontinuous” … as in the discontinuous association between a codon of DNA and the resulting amino acid being presented for biding. It is discontinuous because it has to be in order to function as it does. Check your Periodic Table for that. What is also worth noting that not a single one of these interactions is even the least bit controversial, which should put your attempted dismissal into proper perspective. But in case it doesn’t, your tacit concession does:
Ortho: I say if a pool of loaded tRNAs are available then next a/a is determined by the codon, you say the relationship between tRNA and a/a is determined by different chemical reaction. True enough
Upright BiPed
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I don’t think anyone thinks a mind is at play during transcription or translation.
So Ortho thinks that in order for a semiotic code to be operating, a "mind" must be at play. So I guess Ortho thinks there is a little homunculus in his computer's CPU. Now that's funny.Barry Arrington
May 17, 2020
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I mean... yes, transcription is a chemical reaction and teh proofreading steps are generally carried out by RNA polymerases. You may think the system was designed for high fidelty (and, to be clear, I don't really care what conclusion you make on that count), but I don't think anyone thinks a mind is at play during transcription or translation.orthomyxo
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Ortho:
You appreciate, though, there is currently no way to synthesise all the proteins to make those analogs?
That alone is very telling. I have seen that the only way to get an artificial ribosome to produce a protein is to keep the core RNA's from ribosomes extracted from a living organism. I don't know if they went all they way with a fully synthesized and functional ribosome.
So this is more a prediction of what might happen when broad-scale chemical protein synthesis becomes available, rather than proof the code works through chemical reactions?
So mRNA processing just happens as a matter of course of chemical reactions? Proof-reading and error-correction, too? No knowledge required, it just happens as a matter of course? What is the evidence for that?ET
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You appreciate, though, there is currently no way to synthesise all the proteins to make those analogs? So this is more a prediction of what might happen when broad-scale chemical protein synthesis becomes available, rather than proof the code works through chemical reactions?orthomyxo
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It doesn't work in a test tube. The only way it works in a test tube is to use parts from a living organism. Programmed parts. Again, if it was just chemical reactions it would work with synthesized parts, which are chemically and physically identical to those found in living organisms.ET
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ET, This is really just a repeat of your earlier statement.
If the genetic code worked via chemical reactions it should work in a test tube with manmade, ie synthesized, components.
It does work in a test tube. You haven't explained why the reagents being manmade is crucial.orthomyxo
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Ed George:
Yes, they are both trying to make political points out of this but the fact that the Republicans blindly support this narcissist is a mystery to us.
As opposed to some clueless democratic narcissist? We don't. We support the Presidency. We understand that he is not a scientist. The economy was booming. Trade deals were becoming fairer, to the benefit of the USA. Just because he refuses to be pushed around and taken advantage of, doesn't make him a bully.ET
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You could be right But the impeachment trials are a perfect example of that type of dishonesty And yes my friend was not taking the proper precautionsAaronS1978
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Ortho:
I don’t really follow the logic, what does our current ability to chemically synthesise proteins have to do with whether the genetic code works via a series of chemical reactions?
If the genetic code worked via chemical reactions it should work in a test tube with manmade, ie synthesized, components. That is the bearing it has on eht question.ET
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