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Yes, it was always there but recently, as the editors become ever more self-righteous (= Us vs. the Unwashed), it has become more open and that sure isn’t an improvement. Two items noted in passing:

Big Climate:

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is an important organization with a primary purpose to assess the scientific literature on climate in order to inform policy…

Regrettably, the IPCC WG2 has strayed far from its purpose to assess and evaluate the scientific literature, and has positioned itself much more as a cheerleader for emissions reductions and produced a report that supports such advocacy. The IPCC exhorts: “impacts will continue to increase if drastic cuts in greenhouse gas emissions are further delayed – affecting the lives of today’s children tomorrow and those of their children much more than ours … Any further delay in concerted global action will miss a brief and rapidly closing window to secure a liveable future.”

The focus on emissions reductions is a major new orientation for WG2, which previously was focused exclusively on impacts, adaptation and vulnerability. The new focus on mitigation is explicit, with the IPCC WG2 noting (1-31) that its focus “expands significantly from previous reports” and now includes “the benefits of climate change mitigation and emissions reductions.” This new emphasis on mitigation colors the entire report, which in places reads as if adaptation is secondary to mitigation or even impossible. The IPCC oddly presents non-sequiturs tethering adaptation to mitigation, “Successful adaptation requires urgent, more ambitious and accelerated action and, at the same time, rapid and deep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.”

Roger Pielke, Jr., “A Rapidly Closing Window to Secure a Liveable Future” at The Honest Broker Newsletter/Substack (March 2, 2022)

The relentless drum-banging will probably have the opposite effect of the one desired, especially when (as is sure to happen) some emission reduction strategies do much more harm than good and the boosters are running for cover, misrepresenting those outcomes in the name of “Trust the Science.”

And then there are the ridiculous efforts in popular science media to snuff out any awareness of the possibility that the virus that causes COVID-19 escaped from the Wuhan lab doing research on making viruses more powerful. How awful of any of us to suggest such a thing! Here’s an intro to a podcast on the topic:

We have featured the work of science writer Matt Ridley on several occasions over the years. Now he is the author (with Alina Chan) of the new book Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19. Brendan O’Neill has recorded a podcast with Ridley to discuss how the Covid-19 virus might have leaked from a lab in Wuhan and how scientists tried to suppress the lab-leak origin theory. Spiked has posted the podcast here. I have embedded it below.

The New York Times continues to flog the alleged natural origin of the plague. Most recently, the Times has promoted “new research” pointing to the live animal market in Wuhan as the origin: “Analyzing a wide range of data, including virus genes, maps of market stalls and the social media activity of early Covid-19 patients across Wuhan, the scientists concluded that the coronavirus was very likely present in live mammals sold at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in late 2019 and suggested that the virus spilled over into people working or shopping there on two separate occasions.” However, “some gaps” in the evidence still remain. “The new [unpublished] papers did not, for example, identify an animal at the market that spread the virus to humans.”

Scott Johnson, “The case for the lab-leak theory” at Powerline Blog (March 4, 2022)

More re Viral

Science writer Matt Ridley thinks science is reverting to a cult. Maybe his next book should be about that.

Comments
VL,
We can’t check whether it’s the Christian God vs Allah vs Vishnu...
Not necessarily in a scientific way. One has to analyze historical claims, which is a different sort of inquiry. But still do-able. And still worth it in my opinion.EDTA
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Q, you write, "Jerry’s absolutely correct in describing Christianity as historically counter-culture at it’s inception. And counter-culture means that it runs against cultural norms, falsifying your assertion." As I said above, "counter-culture" doesn't mean something is not cultural. When we look back at the 60's, clearly the counter-culture movement (of which I was part, FWIW) was part of the culture of the 60's. Cultures are not monolithic things, and they always contain parts that are in tension with each other. I don't think the argument that Christianity was "counter-cultural" doesn't change the fact that it was invented and promulgated by the beliefs and actions of people in a cultural context, and that the stories which were part of it were not ontologically true, any more than the various gods I mentioned in 291 are.Viola Lee
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Viola Lee, Jerry's absolutely correct in describing Christianity as historically counter-culture at it's inception. And counter-culture means that it runs against cultural norms, falsifying your assertion. Do you know what charge was used by the Romans to convict and kill Christians? Do you know that there's one "valid currency" for the origin of the universe? Incidentally, a friend of mine spent a large part of his life in some of the remotest area of Papua New Guinea, where he brought Christianity to a tribe that had just ended the practice of head hunting, at least officially. He lived with them and after a time when they began to trust him, asked them to take him to their "man house" and tell him their stories. They related a fragmented but recognizable portion of Genesis. My friend then recited to them in their trade language the parts that were missing from their account and they were astonished, telling him something like, "You've restored everything that we've forgotten!" Check this out: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html -QQuerius
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I agree that there are untestable ideas in cosmology that some people are advancing (although I'm certainly not defending them.) But yes, people get creative when it is difficult to check against reality. And my point is that there is no consensus way to check religious beliefs against reality. They are stories about aspects of reality that can't be tested, or checked. We can't check whether it's the Christian God vs Allah vs Vishnu vs the Great Spirit and Earth Mother of Native American religions that really exist. Christianity is widespread because it's associated with the dominant culture of the Western world, but that's an historical fact that doesn''t translate to "Christianity is more true." By the wayViola Lee
March 12, 2022
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VL, You are correct that a good bit of the variety of religions is because there is less for us to go on, and people can invent things with no way to compare them to reality. And people get more creative when they know it will be more difficult to check something against reality. Human nature would guarantee such an outcome. Although the variety of opinions in cosmology, etc., is less varied, and there is at least some science to compare things with, the overall phenomenon of ideas multiplying beyond what is warranted is just a matter of degree (like the multiverse idea that Querius mentioned above.) I don't see how that is evidence that a particular core fact is false, only that people extrapolate too much.EDTA
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My guess is that you have no idea of how Christianity started and how different it was from anything that preceded it. To say something was counter cultural means it was so different from the cultural in which it originated. As I said the culture in which it originated, rejected it. So how did it develop? It was the idea of a single person. And also it didn’t develop over time. It happened within a very short time, three years and then spread quickly to several other cultures. By the way I thought you had given up but then you repeat the same nonsense about some other religions as if that has some relevance. And I have answered your irrelevant questions. Whatever, the origin for other religions, has no relevance for Christianity. It’s a logical error to imply it.jerry
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And, Jerry, how do you explain the very wide variety of religions that exist and have existed in the past? Why is there a Hindu religion, and Zoroastrianism, and native American religions, and the Australian aborigine religion, and countless small, older religions in the past and still partially alive today in South America and Africa and Asia? What is your explanation of where they came from and why they are all so different? Why won't you answer this question? All those religions are cultural inventions.Viola Lee
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Jerry, "counterculture" is still part of culture. By cultural invention I mean that it's components were invented by people and at any one time played a role in the cultures in which they found. I really don't think you are understanding the word "culture" properly, but I can see that without a basic understanding what the word means in cultural anthropology, sociology, and history what I have to say will continue to be nonsense to you. Over and out.Viola Lee
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The phrase “cultural invention” was used. Christianity was not a cultural invention. It was counter culture and spread to many different cultures and was adopted by some within each of these very different cultures. But definitely not all. Over time, centuries, many of the very different cultures adopted Christianity some almost universally but kept their own cultures. The British, Irish, Franks, Iberians, Germans, Italians, Greeks, Egyptians, Syrians had very distinct cultures but all were Christians. It was anything but an outgrowth of any culture but did affect various cultures but only partly. So your basic proposition is nonsense. And you keep asking irrelevant questions. What explains one religion is definitely not universal so why keep repeating these irrelevancies. They have nothing to do with how Christianity originated and spread.jerry
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Again, Jerry, questions which are not gobbleygook. What is your understanding of what "cultural" means? And how would you explain the wide variety of religious beliefs that exist in the world and how do you think they have come about? Are they cultural products in ways Christianity is not, and why?Viola Lee
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Jerry, it is hard sometimes to respond to you because you add more after your first post. Christianity has a centuries old cultural tradition, and the spreading of it was a cultural event. I'm not sure what understanding of "cultural" you are using. Wkipedia writes,
Culture is an umbrella term which encompasses the social behavior and norms found in human societies, as well as the knowledge, beliefs, arts, laws, customs, capabilities, and habits of the individuals in these groups.
All of these are products of what people do. Christianity grew in the context of the sociological and political environment in which it was found through the actions of lots of people, and as such it was a cultural event.Viola Lee
March 12, 2022
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Someone observed that some religions are cultural and makes the conclusion that all religions are cultural when it is obviously not true. Christianity is an obvious counter example. That is a logical fallacy and gobbledygook.jerry
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Q, this is also not a valid analogy. We know there is one valid currency in ways that are not at all comparable to what we know about religions.Viola Lee
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There are many counterfeit currencies floating around in the U.S., all of them claiming to be genuine. Can we deduce from this that all currencies are therefore counterfeit? Actually, EDTA does have a strong point because science has become a religion in many respects. Do you believe that nature created nature from nothing before time began? How about the multiverse? Do you believe in a cosmic turtle named “Multiverse” who lays eggs called universes, and that Multiverse had a mother named “Multimultiverse.” It’s still turtles all the way up and elephants all the way down. And all kinds of contorted logic to try to explain how the universe had a natural beginning and how life "musta" spontaneously generated itself out of non-life, and how consciousness "musta" emerged from particles, all of which which takes a MASSIVE amount of faith to believe. -QQuerius
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I don't think you are trying very hard, Jerry. What is goobledygook about "What is your explanation for the extremely wide variety of religious beliefs that exist?"Viola Lee
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I said that Christianity was not a cultural development. And I get this irrelevant gobbledygook as a reply.
how do you explain the very wide range of religions, both modern and “primitive” that exist in the world? Do you think that all religions but Christianity is a cultural invention, or do you think other religions are also true in some ways, as Christianity, and are not cultural inventions. What is your explanation for the extremely wide variety of religous beliefs that exist?
Christianity originated in a specific place. It was not an outgrowth of any culture. It anything it was extremely counterculture. In fact the local culture rejected it. It spread very quickly (less than 20 years) by word of mouth to several disparate geographic areas and ethnic groups. It maintained centralized controlled by a few who were located in places different than its origin. It then grew steadily voluntarily over the next few centuries in areas over a thousand miles apart.jerry
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Jerry, how do you explain the very wide range of religions, both modern and "primitive" that exist in the world? Do you think that all religions but Christianity is a cultural invention, or do you think other religions are also true in some ways, as Christianity, and are not cultural inventions. What is your explanation for the extremely wide variety of religous beliefs that exist?Viola Lee
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EDTA, there is a significant difference between religion and cosmology. One is that I'm not sure there is a comparable "lot of beliefs about cosmology" by any means. The difference is that religions continue to vary widely because there is no method for working towards a consensus equivalent to the means by which we study cosmology. I don't think your comparison is very strong.Viola Lee
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but it’s just as much a cultural invention as all other religions
Absolute nonsense. You haven’t a clue what you are talking about.jerry
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VL @ 271,
My position is that the very large variety of religious perspectives about things we don’t actual experience, and the wide variety of associated religious beliefs, traditions, ceremonies, taboos, etc. are strong evidence that all religions are cultural inventions.
If all religions where human creations, then I would expect a variety of beliefs. But I don't see that the implication has to go the other way. One belief system could be closer to the truth than the others, but their similarities don't mean they are all wrong. We have lots of beliefs about cosmology, but does that fact alone mean that cosmology is all bunk? Let me know if I haven't understood you point correctly.EDTA
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Chuck @ 261,
You fault Bradley arguing “from a human perspective”...
Yes, and for good reason: it may be the biggest flaw in his argument. Since none of us here is God, we argue from a limited perspective. Nothing surprising. Nor does my statement undermine itself. But as I expected, you made no effort to buttress his argument in any way.EDTA
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Many people have said that Christianity is the one true religion. I know a lot of the arguments, and I don't believe the conclusion. Many other people believe theirs is the one true religion also. Christianity has a long history, but it's just as much a cultural invention as all other religions.Viola Lee
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strong evidence that all religions are cultural inventions
Certainly not true about Christianity. This was pointed out to you before but apparently you did not read or understand it.jerry
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Replying to my statement that "it’s all fiction", Jerry wrote, "Translation. Because I do not espouse it, it is fiction. I have no basis for this interpretation but I hold it nevertheless." This is a total misrepresentation of my position, which possibly Jerry has paid some attention to, but maybe not. My position is that the very large variety of religious perspectives about things we don't actual experience, and the wide variety of associated religious beliefs, traditions, ceremonies, taboos, etc. are strong evidence that all religions are cultural inventions. Jerry's statement about why I consider the whole of Christian theology fiction is very wrong.Viola Lee
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SA @ 265 I'm not complaining about the Catholic education I received. It was far superior to anything I would have received in public schools. I also have no complaint about nuns or priest, they were excellent teachers. In college, I spent many an evening drinking beer and discussing science, law, philosophy and theology with my Jesuit professors. Most of them had multiple doctorates. An unbelievably educated group of individuals. Some might say over educated. I can't say I ever "left" the Church because I don't think I ever belonged. Even as early as my first communion, it never resonated as remotely true to me. So, I'm not an emotionally damaged refugee from Catholicism--I simply don't buy it. Nonetheless, I delighted in the investiture of Pope Francis because he actually has a sense of openness and acceptance (he's also the first Jesuit pope) that his predecessors couldn't fathom, excepting perhaps John XXIII. I was deeply moved when I read of the incident where he told the young child of an atheist father that God would not abandon his father. Unfortunately, the American Catholic Church doesn't share those qualities which is why it is losing membership. But that does not change my fundamental skepticism of Christianity, especially the smug and self-righteous form of American evangelicalism which manifests today.chuckdarwin
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The firing of Forrest Mims was inexcusable. KFkairosfocus
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By the way, has anyone else noticed the blatant political flavor of many sciency mags these days?
I stopped reading them as a result. My wife also cancelled a couple of her non-sciency magazines for the same reason. -QQuerius
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EDTA @251 and nod to Jerry @257,
We have no idea what God’s actual capabilities are, nor what commitments he has, nor what priorities he operates with, nor how all his superior and/or infinite characteristics interact. Bradley is like the kid who digs up a mathematical contradiction while playing with the concept of infinity, and gives up on mathematics as a result.
Exactly so! Great analogy, too. Of course, mathematics is intangible and has no one has any evidence for its material existence . . . And as previously posted, what's interesting about information is that when observed/measured, it can transform into particles and energy, and humans can cause this at a tiny scale. Silver Asiatic @252,
Ok, thanks for your opinion! We certainly won’t expect you to take the conversation any farther than that.
Heh. Reductionism ultimately ends up with nothing to say. Silver Asiatic @265, Plus, there are some great tools available that allow people to compare translations from Greek and Hebrew, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint (completed before Christ), and some fascinating discoveries in ancient manuscripts and archaeology. But comfortable old excuses require almost no effort, no research, no learning, and exercise only the fingers and the ego. -QQuerius
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KF Wikipedia gives the earliest reference as: the earliest surviving records associating Patrick with the plant are coins depicting Patrick clutching a shamrock which were minted in the 1680's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick I thought it went back farther, but we have to accept that for the story to make it to a coin, it had to be in oral tradition for some time before that - and written records are scarce anyway prior to the 10th century. Biographies of Patrick before then don't mention the story, but it could have been anecdotal from the region or the people who witnessed it and only emerged later.Silver Asiatic
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CD
I’m sorry but the nuns and priests only taught me Latin, not Hebrew….
I'll echo Querius' comment. It's important to keep learning. Latin is a great foundation and you were blessed by the men and women who devoted themselves to teaching kids (and a private school education). But I remember when they stopped teaching Latin - I was one of the last grades that had it and it became optional and almost extinct once the liturgy changed. From that, I can calculate how old you are. I also know a number of ex-Catholics your age who complain about the nuns. I find that sad and unfortunate, but I'm sympathetic because it was a difficult transition for many. (I liked and admired the nuns - still do.) But back to the main theme ... don't let the hurts of the past restrict your growth and learning for the future.Silver Asiatic
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