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Hitchhiker’s Guide author’s “puddle” argument against fine-tuning — and a response

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At Stand to Reason, Tim Barnett reminds us of an argument against fine-tuning of the universe Douglas Adams (1952–2001) offers in one of the Hitchhiker books (he Salmon of Doubt: Hitchhiking the Galaxy One Last Time):

This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, “This is an interesting world I find myself in—an interesting hole I find myself in—fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!” This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything’s going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.

Barnett responds:

In the puddle analogy, the puddle—Doug—can exist in any hole. That’s how puddles work. The shape of the hole is irrelevant to the existence of the puddle. If you change the shape of the hole, the shape of the puddle changes, but you always get a puddle.

The problem is, life doesn’t work like that. Life cannot exist in any universe. The evidence from fine-tuning shows that a life-permitting universe is extremely rare. If you change certain conditions of the universe, you cannot get life anywhere in the universe. For instance, slightly increase the mass of the electron or the up quark, and get a universe with nothing but neutrons. No stars. No planets. No chemistry. No life.

Tim Barnett, “Why the Puddle Analogy Fails against Fine-Tuning” at Stand to Reason (April 22, 2021)

It’s a good argument. But in reality, any argument against fine-tuning will be accepted, whether it makes sense or not. It is only the defenders of a rational universe who need to make sense. And that’s not for the other guy; it’s for you.

See also: What becomes of science when the evidence does not matter?

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AaronS
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I had a debate with an atheist once and he brought up the puddle argument. His atheist buddies all loved that Douglas Adams book also. These guys are (supposedly) grown men and they were giggling like little girls about it. Adams is a "genius" - and the puddle argument is "brilliant" etc. Childish is the right word for it. I try not to laugh at atheists. I find them to be tragic figures, totally lost with no direction, no purpose -- no reason to even mature and work on virtue or have a reason to take responsibility or a higher role. Jordan Peterson has some devastating commentary about that very thing.Silver Asiatic
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I loved Life of Brian as well. The part I like the best is when Brian yells to the crowd that they are all individuals, and the crowd responds in unison “We are all individuals.”paige
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I think Life of Brian is one of the funniest movies I have ever seen and, yes, Adams's humor was based in an appreciation of the ridiculous. And for a species of ape to come into existence 13.8 bn years after the Universe was created and immediately assume that the whole thing was created just for them is pretty ridiculous if you think about it.Seversky
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I think people are reading far too much into this. Adam’s five part trilogy is just an entertaining story of the ridiculous, in the same vein as Monty Python’s Holy Grail or Life of Brian. He is probably laughing from the grave over the fact that people are taking his little asides in the story as serious arguments.paige
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Folks, once water is in a depression, it will by mechanical necessity flow to fill the shape. So, this is a case of knocking over a strawman. Now consider a puddle in which the water spells out "puddle" in a cursive script, so the letters are joined together. That would be a different story. KFkairosfocus
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What are fundamentally childish argument Life conforms to its environment is the whole message Here’s one for you the puddle wakes up in the morning “wow the world fits me perfectly it’s so perfect it must be made for me” Wow that means everybody that the lease and intelligent design is just being Ignorant And then reality kicks in And the puddle looks up into the sky and stares at the sun which is is just a few degrees to hot. The puddle is evaporated by the unrelenting sun and Ceases to exist Guess things had to be just right after allAaronS1978
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To have a liquid fit a puddle, no matter how complex its dimensions, requires only two very simple things: 1-it has to be at least somewhat fluid but the viscosity can vary a lot 2-there has to be gravity sufficient to overcome the viscosity Contrast this with the fine-tuning requirements for intelligent life: 1-a large number of variables have to be tuned 2-the tuning has to be extremely precise In other words, the puddle analogy fails miserably as a counterargument.Ralph Dave Westfall
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The puddle argument is irrelevant to probablistic arguments around fine tuning and natural selection. That a puddle fits it's hole is true by definition. The probability is 1. There are no odds to surmount.hnorman42
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The original fine-tuning argument was derived from the observation that, if the values of certain fundamental physical constants fluctuated by even a small amount from their measured values, this Universe would not exist. As I remember, there was an intriguing Australian TV sci-fi mini-series based on the premise that one of those constants was beginning to change. The problem is that creationists made the unwarranted leap to the claim that this is evidence that this Universe must have been made especially for us, completely ignoring the fact that the overwhelming majority of the observed Universe is implacably hostile to human life. Adams's "puddle" analogy was simply making that point, that we might be wrong thinking this was all created just for us.Seversky
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That Doug attempts to utilize a simplistic analogy to arm wave away fine-tuning just shows how far away his meat brain is from science. Andrewasauber
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