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How the scientific method, as currently practised, protects weak or bad theories

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And why it is okay – even necessary -for lay people to critique science theories.

From lawyer and social analyst Edward Sisson: “God of the gaps” assumes that science steadily fills-in gaps. But this is an artifact of the sociological rule that Stephen Jay Gould noted, that widely-accepted theories (i.e., filled-in former gaps) are never rejected until someone comes along to offer a more persuasive replacement theory.

But an existing theory may be false for reasons evident to a rational layperson, due to inherent conflicts in its underlying logic, or due to reliance on falsified assumptions, etc., which a reasoning mind can identify even if the particular person does not have the specialized training necessary to construct an alternative theory. Juries in civil court cases (i.e., laypeople) do this kind of thing hundreds, perhaps thousands, of times each year, in product liability cases, design defect cases, medical malpractice cases, patent infringement cases, etc., where an expert for the plaintiff presents a technical theory and the lawyer for the defense, perhaps relying on an expert, identifies holes in the plaintiff’s theory, without having to develop an alternative theory.

The sociological problem in the science world is that there is no funding for the role of a defense-only advocate, whose only job is to poke holes in the plaintiff’s theory, without having to present an alternative theory. Of course, if the defense CAN present an alternative theory, so much the better; but there is no requirement to do so. In the science world, the only funded career-path is for theory-creators.

In the criminal context, it would be as if defendant X could not simply have a defense counsel, but had to hire his own prosecution team whose job was to prove that mister Z was the real criminal; and the trial would be a competition of presentations between the two prosecution teams, where the jury had to decide that either X or Z did the crime.

If we had a scientific system in which there was a regular, funded career path for people to debunk existing theories, without replacing them, what we would see is that issues once thought to have been answered by science (filled-in gaps) would suddenly go blank again, leaving the gap re-opened, with nothing replacing it. We would not see a steady, but false, impression of gaps being steadily filled.

It is to keep this from happening that we are told that only credentialed scientists are allowed to reject theories, and that laypeople are not allowed to do so.

The problem with this argument is that individuals, by the time they reach college age, are pretty much “set” in their level of intelligence and analytical ability. Many have a sufficient intellectual ability to analyze theories, identify logical inconsistencies, etc. All of these people have the ability, should they wish to, to go into science and develop knowledge necessary to be able to present credible new theories — but only a few do. Those who choose not to, still retain the intellectual ability to discredit theories, and later in life, they may find themselves involved in some situation where they apply their minds to some theory to see if it is internally logically consistent, etc. They cannot be ruled out-of-bounds in this, in deference to those few who chose to develop the additional expertise necessary to construct new theories.

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Lamarck: God can’t be more divine than an idea, because an idea monitors whether god is more divine. That God created the idea of ideas doesn’t change that because consideration That seems a little like circular argument,how does an idea monitor god, any idea? I assume you believe God is a actual being, not merely conceptual. Equating god with info, there again is lots of info observed,is all its source god? Is information the same as knowledge ? I don't know , you might flesh this out a bit more.velikovskys
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Ilion (62), The evidence suggests (2).Grunty
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EL: "I do get pissy about being continually accused of dishonesty, however, as it effectively renders communication impossible, ..." Communication is logically impossible, and thus utterly impossible, when one party or the other holds itself free to engage in intellectual dishonest. It is not the accusation of dishonesty that makes communication impossible, it is the dishonesty itself which makes it impossible. Either: 1) you habitually engage in dishonesty (which you do), or 2) Mung and I and a few certain others are engaging in dishonesty (which we are not) by characterizing your well-observed behavior as dishonesty. Either you are dishonest or we are dishonest; it is someone's dishonesty that makes a rational discussion impossible, not the pointing out of the dishonesty.Ilion
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Elizabeth Liddle:
I will continue to argue strenuously that it is true until you can provide a compelling counter-argument.
Compelling counter-arguments have been provided. Numerous compelling counter-arguments. Numerous times. Yet you just repeat your unjustifiable claims over and over ad nauseam. Exhibit:
No, I’m talking about evidence ... evidence that Darwin’s mechanism actually works, can be observed to work, and that its prerequisites are present ... The fact that GAs work (novel solutions are found to problems presented as a fitness function).
Mung:
Great! That’s what you’ve been asserting and we’ve been asking for since you first showed up here, and what we are still waiting for. Time to put up or shut up, as they say.
You: ................ Wait for another thread. Repeat the same claim.Mung
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‘Pissy’ is a wholly appropriate English word to use to describe Dr Luddite’s typical reaction to having her dishonesty explicitly named.
lol. Seriously, Ilion, you can't do better than this?Elizabeth Liddle
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vel, at 50, and you expect to think that you are even trying to be reasonable with those shallow excuses?? Sorry,,,, no dice!!! Perhaps you should take lessons from Elizabeth for you aren't even close to Elizabeth's level of subtle dishonesty.bornagain77
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... and, 'pissy' is a pretty appropriate English word to use to denote the Miss Grundy-ish freaking-out over using the word 'pissy'.Ilion
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... for instance, while I rarely use the word, myself, there is no difference, whatsoever, between characterizing someone's claims/arguments and 'dung' or as 'merde' ... or as 'shitty.' 'Pissy' is a wholly appropriate English word to use to describe Dr Luddite's typical reaction to having her dishonesty explicitly named.Ilion
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So, on the one hand, EL seems to be asserting the true statement that no scientific pronouncement can be show, by the means available to ‘science’, to be true.
Thank you.
But, on the other hand, EL asserts the false claim that we “civilians” have the intellectual — and moral — duty to accede to the pronouncements of scientists … and especially as relates to creation myth of materialistic atheism.
No, I made no such claim, nor anything resembling it.Elizabeth Liddle
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Miss Priss: "Please, your language." Go read the Bible.Ilion
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Dr Liddle: You know or should know that simply on the gamut of our solar system, the config space for 500 bits is not reasonable searchable save by intelligence. GEM of TKIkairosfocus
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Ilion:
EL @ 41, trotting out the same old dishonest claims about “genetic” algorithms. She knows that what she asserts is false (i.e. she lies); moreover, she knows that *we* know both: 1) that it is false; 2) that she knows it is false; and then she has the gall to get all pissy at being called a liar. In truth, she gets all pissy because she has good reason to believe that foolish “nice” persons will take offence on her behalf; that these “nice” persons will object not to her dishonesty, but to the “incivility” of someone calling her on her dishonesty.
On the contrary, Ilion, I do not "know" that it is false at all. Indeed I will continue to argue strenuously that it is true until you can provide a compelling counter-argument. And far from getting all "pissy" about "incivility" (not my word) I have a pretty strong hide regarding incivility, as witnessed by my tenure as admin on Talk Rational, bless their little dark hearts. I do get pissy about being continually accused of dishonesty, however, as it effectively renders communication impossible, which is the only reason I participate on a message board. It's not as though there's free beer.Elizabeth Liddle
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Ilion: Please, your language. If we allow our discussion to descend into coarse language, it invites a whole new wave of incivility. Which is a huge problem that undermines serious discussion of design theory. So, kindly fix language. GEM of TKIkairosfocus
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So what is the difference between "searching a space" and "designing" Mung? Think carefully before you answer. They don't need to "get lucky" in order to find a design - the environment, as in nature, hugely raises the probability that they will. Now I guess you could argue that there's no such thing as a "design" - that all potential "designs" are there in search space, waiting to be found", where search space consists of all possible combos, including a vast majority of non-solutions. But it would be an odd position for an ID proponent :) But be that as it may: the question would then be - does a Darwinian algorithm find the small subset of useful combos from the entire search space of combos more quickly than a search in which each combo has an equal probability of being selected on every trial. And the answer is yes. ergo, GAs design things, in the colloquial use of the term, and "find useful designs in the search space" in your terminology. Or do you dispute that a Darwinian search algorithm has no more chance of finding a useful solution from search space than does a random draw?Elizabeth Liddle
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Sorry BA , you are a lot quicker posting than I . Who said science limits itself to purely material causes??? A materialist/atheist no doubt!!! So should we throw quantum mechanics out of science since is does not conform to material causation but blatantly defies our concepts of time and space??? No one to my knowledge has proposed that quantum mechanics does not have materialistic causes. People are using real math and smashing real matter in order to explain it. Remember our Hawking conversation? That is the "Theory of Everything" that you and Ilion contend is literally the theory of everything. It seeks to unite relativity with quantum mechanics. All using material causes. Not sure but I think it was theists attempting to make science repeatable and verifiable which laid the foundations of modern science. In fact you actually made that point in the past. Hey if you think science should embrace all causes, fine.How do you see that working? I write a paper ascribing the cause of cancer to god's punishment to man for something one of his ancestors did, then what? If you have a materialistic and a nonmaterialistic theory ,how do you decide which is correct?velikovskys
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EL @ 41, trotting out the same old dishonest claims about “genetic” algorithms.
Maybe she will stick around this time and defend her false claims about GAs, but based on past experience I seriously doubt it. GAs don't design anything. What they do is search a space. Maybe they get lucky and find a design, maybe they don't. It's easy enough to test her claims, but she, so far, has declined to participate in any actual testing of them. Not very scientific of her.Mung
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V, when you say info isn't divine, for argument's sake I'd like to say that thought is information, or information is a subset of thought. Either way it's a consideration. How can a god be more divine than a consideration then? Something qualitatively transcends you're consideration? God can't be more divine than an idea, because an idea monitors whether god is more divine. That God created the idea of ideas doesn't change that because consideration still monitors the idea that god came first and so is more important.lamarck
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BA: Not really sure we got to the origin of the universe from is it a good idea to know what you are talking about before dismissing it as scientifically dishonest. Against my better judgement I watched your video on information. It brings up a couple of thoughts. First do you actually find that persuasive at any level? Again this is your claim: Yet the only thing that we know of that is completely transcendent of space-time, matter-energy is information and I asked " what information". In your mind was info present before the big bang just waiting to manifest itself in this post? It seems strange to elevate information to the same level as the divine.velikovskys
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EL @ 41, trotting out the same old dishonest claims about "genetic" algorithms. She knows that what she asserts is false (i.e. she lies); moreover, she knows that *we* know both: 1) that it is false; 2) that she knows it is false; and then she has the gall to get all pissy at being called a liar. In truth, she gets all pissy because she has good reason to believe that foolish "nice" persons will take offence on her behalf; that these “nice” persons will object not to her dishonesty, but to the “incivility” of someone calling her on her dishonesty.Ilion
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28. If a scientific theory is logically self-contradictory, it fails. Can you give me an example? ----- Yes. All of science. You're saying the truth of reality is that it contradicts itself and so doesn't exist. And so you're saying nothing exists because it can't be conceived of. And so finally you're saying that my statement contradicts itself and does not exist because it doesn't communicate a certainty to you. Science is systematic knowledge of the material world, or systematized knowledge in general.lamarck
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OOPS: Kindly strike on cosmo design.kairosfocus
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Dr Liddle: Here is Haldane, on the problem of materialism when imposed on evolutionary theory -- and he was a relevant evolutionary theorist:
"It seems to me immensely unlikely that mind is a mere by-product of matter. For if my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true. They may be sound chemically, but that does not make them sound logically. And hence I have no reason for supposing my brain to be composed of atoms." [["When I am dead," in Possible Worlds: And Other Essays [1927], Chatto and Windus: London, 1932, reprint, p.209.]
Do kindly let me know in precisely what ways you find this in error, and if you wish more elaborations, I suggest you read the linked context, or -- at a more technical level -- you may take Nature of Nature, and look at Bruce Gordon's opening bat essay, p 4 on. I therefore await your specifics. And of course there is [cf pp 63 -5 Darwin's foreshadowing of this problem of evident self-referential incoherence. Let me insert paras to help us follow:
C. D. to W. Graham. Down, July 3rd, 1881. DEAR SIR,—I hope that you will not think it intrusive on my part to thank you heartily for the pleasure which I have derived from reading your admirably-written Creed of Science, though I have not yet quite finished it, as now that I am old I read very slowly. It is a very long time since any other book has interested me so much. The work must have cost you several years and much hard labour with full leisure for work. You would not probably expect any one fully to agree with you on so many abstruse subjects; and there are some points in your book which I cannot digest. The chief one is that the existence of so-called natural laws implies purpose. I cannot see this. Not to mention that many expect that the several great laws will some day be found to follow inevitably from some one single law, yet taking the laws as we now know them, and look at the moon, where the law of gravitation—and no doubt of the conservation of energy—of the atomic theory, &c., &c., hold good, and I cannot see that there is then necessarily any purpose. Would there be purpose if the lowest organisms alone, destitute of consciousness, existed in the moon? But I have had no practice in abstract reasoning, and I may be all astray. Nevertheless you have expressed my inward conviction, though far more vividly and clearly than I could have done, that the Universe is not the result of chance.* But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey's mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind? Secondly, I think that I could make somewhat of a case against the enormous importance which you attribute to our greatest men; I have been accustomed to think second, third, and fourth-rate men of very high importance, at least in the case of Science. Lastly, I could show fight on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilisation than you seem inclined to admit. Remember what risk the nations of Europe ran, not so many centuries ago, of being overwhelmed by the Turks, and how ridiculous such an idea now is! The more civilised so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world. But I will write no more, and not even mention the many points in your work which have much interested me. I have indeed cause to apologise for troubling you with my impressions, and my sole excuse is the excitement in my mind which your book has aroused. I beg leave to remain, dear sir, Yours faithfully and obliged.
While the usual rhetors will as usual tell us not to believe our lyin' eyes [for them, quoting unwelcome, embarrassing passages is ALWAYS "quote-mining"], the meaning and context of this notorious letter are plain enough, in both aspects I have highlighted. (It is interesting that CRD hints at belief in cosmological design, too, even as he then bridges to undermining the logical powers of our minds.) There is a serious and unanswered problem of self reference and evident incoherence here, once materialism is force fitted unto evolutionary theory. I suggest that recourse should be made to Wallace, to see a different way. GEM of TKIkairosfocus
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Mung @ 36, Moreover, in the quote upon which you comment, EL is employing an all too common misunderstanding of what 'to prove' means. But, let's skip over that particular misunderstanding, and focus just on what she said in the quote in relation to her over-all claim that we mere “civilians,” who are forced at gun-point to pay the bills for the Church of Darwin don't have the intellectual right, nor moral, to reject the Darwinistic "consensus". EL claims that "nothing is proveable in science", by which she properly means, "no scientific pronouncement can be show actually to be true within the system of 'science'" (or, to put it another way, "Any particular scientific statement may be true, or not; but 'science' cannot distinguish which it is"). Now, this proper phrasing of what she really did mean to say (or, at any rate, ought to have meant to say) is true, but it's also a very different thing from the meaning of what she actually wrote. So, on the one hand, EL seems to be asserting the true statement that no scientific pronouncement can be show, by the means available to 'science', to be true. But, on the other hand, EL asserts the false claim that we "civilians" have the intellectual -- and moral -- duty to accede to the pronouncements of scientists … and especially as relates to creation myth of materialistic atheism. Not only is the second assertion false, but, in the context of a coherent epistemology, the two together are self-contradictory.Ilion
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If Darwinian mechanisms can theoretically produce designs, why don’t demonstrations of the inability of Darwinian mechanisms to produce designs support ID?
Because, my dear Mung, Darwinian mechanisms demonstrably can produce designs, as is evidenced by GAs. And your objection that GAs smuggle in design by means of a fitness function has been repeatedly addressed - the fitness function is the analog of the environment, not the analog a Designer (presumably no-one is claiming that the ID in ID is the environment? - if they are, I will sign on right now, as will the vast majority of biologists). And presumably you do not mean that the initial population of virtual organisms have to be designed? Because that wouldn't be a criticism of Darwinian evolution, which assumes minimally self-replicating critters, which is what GAs start with. Therefore, Darwinian mechanisms, which is what is left in a GA (or at least in many) can produce designs. Functional designs that have practical uses.Elizabeth Liddle
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Mung:
Questions cannot be dishonest or passive-aggressive.
If only :) How about "Have you stopped beating your wife?" to take a classic, which is both. But mine was neither.Elizabeth Liddle
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Mung:
Of course, we don’t actually know that all models are incomplete, for that can never be proven.
It can be safely assumed, however, because there are always residuals in our models.
And of course everything in science is based upon model creation, even the science of creating models is itself based upon an incomplete model.
Sure. There are many kinds of questions that science cannot even start to address - moral questions, for instance. Although it can give us important information that we need to take into account when considering ethical principles.Elizabeth Liddle
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there is nothing dishonest about my question, and nothing “passive-agressive about it either”. She got you there Ilion. Questions cannot be dishonest or passive-aggressive.Mung
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Elizabeth Liddle:
And if ID goes down this path, then it deserves to be taken seriously. I’d take it seriously.
In other words, if ID would just put the cart before the horse Elizabeth would take it seriously. If Darwinian mechanisms can theoretically produce designs, why don't demonstrations of the inability of Darwinian mechanisms to produce designs support ID?Mung
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Elizabeth Liddle:
Indeed, nothing is proveable in science because all models are incomplete.
Of course, we don't actually know that all models are incomplete, for that can never be proven. And of course everything in science is based upon model creation, even the science of creating models is itself based upon an incomplete model.Mung
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vel you state: 'Slow down BA, I never said that material causes were the only explanation to origins. I said science limits itself to material causes.' Who said science limits itself to purely material causes??? A materialist/atheist no doubt!!! So should we throw quantum mechanics out of science since is does not conform to material causation but blatantly defies our concepts of time and space??? =================== "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare - Hamlet The artificial imposition of the materialistic philosophy onto the scientific method has blinded many scientists to the inference of God as a rational explanation in these questions of origins. In fact, the scientific method, by itself, makes absolutely no predictions as to what the best explanation will be prior to investigation in these question of origins. In the beginning of a investigation all answers are equally valid to the scientific method. Yet scientists have grown accustomed through the years to the artificial imposition of the materialistic philosophy onto the scientific method. That is to say by limiting the answers one may conclude to only materialistic ones, the scientific method has been very effective at solving many puzzles very quickly. This imposition of the materialistic philosophy onto the scientific method has indeed led to many breakthroughs of technology which would not have been possible had the phenomena been presumed to be solely the work of a miracle. This imposition of materialism onto the scientific method is usually called methodological naturalism, methodological materialism, or scientific materialism etc... Yet today, due to the impressive success of methodological naturalism in our everyday lives, many scientists are unable to separate this artificial imposition of the materialistic philosophy from the scientific method in this completely different question of origins. A Question for Barbara Forrest http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2009/06/question-for-barbara-forrest.html In fact, I've heard someone say, "Science is materialism." Yet science clearly is not materialism. Materialism is a philosophy which makes the dogmatic assertion that only blind material processes generated everything around us, including ourselves. Materialism is thus in direct opposition to Theism which holds that God purposely created us in His image. Furthermore science, or more particularly the scientific method, in reality, only cares to relentlessly pursue the truth and could care less if the answer is a materialistic one or not. This is especially true in these questions of origins, since we are indeed questioning the materialistic philosophy itself. i.e. We are asking the scientific method to answer this very specific question, "Did God create us or did blind material processes create us?" When we realize this is the actual question we are seeking an answer to within the scientific method, then of course it is readily apparent we cannot impose strict materialistic answers onto the scientific method prior to investigation. No less than leading "New Atheist" Richard Dawkins agrees: "The presence of a creative deity in the universe is clearly a scientific hypothesis. Indeed, it is hard to imagine a more momentous hypothesis in all of science." Richard Dawkins The best data we have [concerning the Big Bang] are exactly what I would have predicted, had I nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms, the bible as a whole. Dr. Arno Penzias, Nobel Laureate in Physics - co-discoverer of the Cosmic Background Radiation - as stated to the New York Times on March 12, 1978 In fact when looking at the evidence in this light we find out many interesting things which scientists, who have been blinded by the philosophy of materialism, miss. This is because the materialistic and Theistic philosophy make, and have made, several natural contradictory predictions about what evidence we will find. These predictions, and the evidence we have found, can be tested against one another within the scientific method. Steps of the Scientific Method http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/project_scientific_method.shtml For a quick overview, here are a few: 1. Materialism predicted an eternal universe, Theism predicted a created universe. - Big Bang points to a creation event. - 2. Materialism predicted time had an infinite past, Theism predicted time had a creation. - Time was created in the Big Bang. - 3. Materialism predicted space has always existed, Theism predicted space had a creation (Psalm 89:12) - Space was created in the Big Bang. - 4. Materialism predicted that material has always existed, Theism predicted 'material' was created. - 'Material' was created in the Big Bang. 5. Materialism predicted at the base of physical reality would be a solid indestructible material particle which rigidly obeyed the rules of time and space, Theism predicted the basis of this reality was created by a infinitely powerful and transcendent Being who is not limited by time and space - Quantum mechanics reveals a wave/particle duality for the basis of our reality which blatantly defies our concepts of time and space. - 6. Materialism predicted the rate at which time passed was constant everywhere in the universe, Theism predicted God is eternal and is outside of time - Special Relativity has shown that time, as we understand it, is relative and comes to a complete stop at the speed of light. (Psalm 90:4 - 2 Timothy 1:9)- 7. Materialism predicted the universe did not have life in mind and life was ultimately an accident of time and chance. Theism predicted this universe was purposely created by God with man in mind - Every transcendent universal constant scientists can measure is exquisitely fine-tuned for carbon-based life to exist in this universe. - 8. Materialism predicted complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Theism predicted the earth is extremely unique in this universe - Statistical analysis of the hundreds of required parameters which enable complex life to be possible on earth gives strong indication the earth is extremely unique in this universe. - 9. Materialism predicted much of the DNA code was junk. Theism predicted we are fearfully and wonderfully made - ENCODE research into the DNA has revealed a "biological jungle deeper, denser, and more difficult to penetrate than anyone imagined.". - 10. Materialism predicted a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA which was ultimately responsible for all the diversity and complexity of life we see on earth. Theism predicted only God created life on earth - The mutation rate to DNA is overwhelmingly detrimental. Detrimental to such a point that it is seriously questioned whether there are any truly beneficial mutations whatsoever. (M. Behe; JC Sanford) - 11. Materialism predicted a very simple first life form which accidentally came from "a warm little pond". Theism predicted God created life - The simplest life ever found on Earth is far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. (Michael Denton PhD) - 12. Materialism predicted it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Theism predicted life to appear abruptly on earth after water appeared on earth (Genesis 1:10-11) - We find evidence for complex photo-synthetic life in the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth - 13. Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life to be self-evident in the fossil record. Theism predicted complex and diverse life to appear abruptly in the seas in God's fifth day of creation. - The Cambrian Explosion shows a sudden appearance of many different and completely unique fossils within a very short "geologic resolution time" in the Cambrian seas. - 14. Materialism predicted there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record, Theism predicted sudden appearance and rapid diversity within different kinds found in the fossil record - Fossils are consistently characterized by sudden appearance of a group/kind in the fossil record, then rapid diversity within the group/kind, and then long term stability and even deterioration of variety within the overall group/kind, and within the specific species of the kind, over long periods of time. Of the few dozen or so fossils claimed as transitional, not one is uncontested as a true example of transition between major animal forms out of millions of collected fossils. - 15. Materialism predicted animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Theism predicted man was the last species created on earth - Man himself is the last generally accepted major fossil form to have suddenly appeared in the fossil record. - references: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ubha8aFKlJiljnuCa98QqLihFWFwZ_nnUNhEC6m6Cys ,,,for a far more detailed list of failed predictions of neo-Darwinism see Dr. Hunter’s site here: Darwin’s Predictions http://www.darwinspredictions.com/ As you can see when we remove the artificial imposition of the materialistic philosophy, from the scientific method, and look carefully at the predictions of both the materialistic philosophy and the Theistic philosophy, side by side, we find the scientific method is very good at pointing us in the direction of Theism as the true explanation. - In fact it is even very good at pointing us to Christianity: General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Entropy & the Shroud Of Turin - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5070355 Last, but certainly not least, as a Christian I would be very remiss if I failed to ask you to accept the free gift of eternal life from the living God who created this universe and all life in it. In fact, almighty God has made a very clear path for us "fallen human adults" to completely reconcile with Him so we may be able to stand before Him in heaven. We do this by humbly accepting what He has done for us through Christ on the cross so that we may be able to stand in the glory of the presence of almighty God in heaven (For our God is an all-consuming fire - Hebrews 12:29). In fact by accepting Christ into your heart, you will be cleansed spotless of your sins in the presence of almighty God. So how about it, Will you accept this priceless gift of Jesus Christ into your heart today so you may able to receive the priceless gift of eternal life in heaven? --- Revelation 3:20 'Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.' John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. The Disciples - How They Died - Would A Man Die For Something He Knew Was A Lie? - music video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4193404 ------------------------------------ Evanescence - "Bring Me To Life" - Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM Wake Me O Lord Wake me O Lord from this sleep of mine To the living wonders of creation that are so fine With a "Oh, that’s nice" I shall not content NO, only when You speak shall my heart be spent Others may suffice their cravings of Awe With an "Oh Well" shrug of the wonders they saw But I know You are in each piece of reality Yes, in the wind, the stars, and even the sea So this vow to You I make No rest in me my heart will take Till Your face and hands again I see In the many waters of reality For the truth be known to You indeed That if I see You not with my heart and head I’m not really born again, but instead am deadbornagain77
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