If you thought life didn’t make sense in a multiverse, meet Many Worlds

I love the absolute, definitive parsimony of the Multiverse - leave out the middle-man: differential intelligibility. Just a great fat zero. Whatever could be is bound to be, so go back to sleep. Axel

OT: Scientists Finally Show How Your Thoughts Can Cause Specific Molecular Changes To Your Genes, - December 10, 2013 Excerpt: With evidence growing that training the mind or inducing certain modes of consciousness can have positive health effects, researchers have sought to understand how these practices physically affect the body. A new study by researchers in Wisconsin, Spain, and France reports the first evidence of specific molecular changes in the body following a period of intensive mindfulness practice. The study investigated the effects of a day of intensive mindfulness practice in a group of experienced meditators, compared to a group of untrained control subjects who engaged in quiet non-meditative activities. After eight hours of mindfulness practice, the meditators showed a range of genetic and molecular differences, including altered levels of gene-regulating machinery and reduced levels of pro-inflammatory genes, which in turn correlated with faster physical recovery from a stressful situation. “To the best of our knowledge, this is the first paper that shows rapid alterations in gene expression within subjects associated with mindfulness meditation practice,” says study author Richard J. Davidson, founder of the Center for Investigating Healthy Minds and the William James and Vilas Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. “Most interestingly, the changes were observed in genes that are the current targets of anti-inflammatory and analgesic drugs,” says Perla Kaliman, first author of the article and a researcher at the Institute of Biomedical Research of Barcelona, Spain (IIBB-CSIC-IDIBAPS), where the molecular analyses were conducted.,,, the researchers say, there was no difference in the tested genes between the two groups of people at the start of the study. The observed effects were seen only in the meditators following mindfulness practice. In addition, several other DNA-modifying genes showed no differences between groups, suggesting that the mindfulness practice specifically affected certain regulatory pathways. http://www.tunedbody.com/scientists-finally-show-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes/ bornagain77

Piltdown2 very well put. As to being a 'layperson', wasn't it a child who told the Emperor that he had no clothes on? bornagain77

The physics community puts out more cr*p than any other scientific community in history. Not even the brain-dead Darwinists can come close. Worse, they get away with it. Stephen Hawking is one of the most prolific BS creators of them all. Anybody who believes that time travel is physically possible is obviously a crackpot and should not be taken seriously. Click on the links below to see what I really think of physicists. Unfortunately, as much as I would like to, I can't say those things here at UD. :-D Sitting on a Mountain of Cr*p, Wasting Time Physicists Don't know Sh*t Sorry if I offend anybody but that's how I see it. Mapou

Just a layperson here, so I'm having trouble with this theory that requires other undetectable universes where anything that could happen actually does happen. We create the world we're in based on our choices. Quite a slippery slope to think our choices don't matter, that regardless of what we do, another universe will be created incorporating the opposite action. Where if I think of stealing and choose not to, it doesn't matter because I just created another universe where I did steal. Hard to believe this passes for science. Piltdown2

The many world proponents have to derive the Born rule properly, then they have to explain how to test their theory when no 'truly' isolated system exists for testing. Just because some big name physicist backs them up (we know Dr.Hawkins is keen on this idea to explain his information evaporating with evaporating Black hole hypothesis), they think their hypothesis is right. It's not enough to say the hypothesis can be falsified in future when technology is mature. How will we ever test a 'truly' isolated universe? This is just like String theory which too can't be tested since we can't reach Planck scale energy. Is it any wonder that people prefer the stability of religion than falsifiable but not really falsifiable hypotheses of science? selvaRajan

In the materialist's/atheist's commitment to keep the Almighty's miraculous power out of science they have unwittingly, solely through the power of their imagination, bestowed omnipotent miraculous power onto a single material particle. For what other power could a material particle possibly possess, other than omnipotent power, in that the material particle creates entirely new parallel universes every time we try to observe it?

Many-worlds,, denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse. per wiki

As a Christian theist, I was delighted to learn what the mathematical definition of the wave-function actually is:

Wave function Excerpt "wave functions form an abstract vector space",,, This vector space is infinite-dimensional, because there is no finite set of functions which can be added together in various combinations to create every possible function. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function#Wave_functions_as_an_abstract_vector_space Explaining Information Transfer in Quantum Teleportation: Armond Duwell †‡ University of Pittsburgh Excerpt: In contrast to a classical bit, the description of a (photon) qubit requires an infinite amount of information. The amount of information is infinite because two real numbers are required in the expansion of the state vector of a two state quantum system (Jozsa 1997, 1) http://www.cas.umt.edu/phil/faculty/duwell/DuwellPSA2K.pdf The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences - Eugene Wigner - 1960 Excerpt: We now have, in physics, two theories of great power and interest: the theory of quantum phenomena and the theory of relativity.,,, The two theories operate with different mathematical concepts: the four dimensional Riemann space and the infinite dimensional Hilbert space, http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/MathDrama/reading/Wigner.html Quantum Computing – Stanford Encyclopedia Excerpt: Theoretically, a single qubit can store an infinite amount of information, yet when measured (and thus collapsing the Quantum Wave state) it yields only the classical result (0 or 1),,, http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-quantcomp/#2.1

Thus, if we allow Almighty God to be Almighty God, instead of allowing individual material particles to have the omnipotent power of creating universe every time we try to observe one of the little buggers, then our explanation for wave function collapse is simply that every time we see (observe) a single photon of ‘material’ reality we are actually seeing just a single bit of information that was originally created from a very specific set of infinite information that was known by the infinite Mind of omniscient God!

Job 38:19-20 “What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings?”

Supplemental note:

"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter." Max Planck - The Father Of Quantum Mechanics - Das Wesen der Materie [The Nature of Matter], speech at Florence, Italy (1944) (from Archiv zur Geschichte der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft, Abt. Va, Rep. 11 Planck, Nr. 1797)(Of Note: Max Planck Planck was a devoted Christian from early life to death, was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_Planck

Verse and Music:

Colossians 1:17 "He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." Evanescence - The Other Side (Lyric Video) http://www.vevo.com/watch/evanescence/the-other-side-lyric-video/USWV41200024?source=instantsearch

bornagain77

Actually, I think the existence of this kind of thinking is a plus for the ID side because it beautifully illustrates the faith commitments of the Materialists. Everyone has faith and this is a great illustration of it. tjguy

Dunno how good it all is. Better just to say it's all there, or maybe not, or maybe both there and not there, or maybe both not there and not there, or ... where's that cup of coffee when I need it? THAT had better be right here. ;) - O' Leary for News News

Human imagination is a wonderful asset: it allows us to be creative in the arts, literature, science, etc... to think outside the box... to see things from different perspectives. But it also has a dark side. When it serves a perverse ideological agenda with essentially all restraints removed, then that imagination may be used to provide pseudo-scientific and even irrational support & justification for that agenda. This is what we are seeing with those wacky notions, all for the benefit of the materialistic worldview. Infinite / parallel universes ... unbounded splits into 'Many Worlds' ... super-advanced aliens on other planets? Sure, why not! Hey, as long as "The Holy Foot is not allowed in the door" then it's all good. Right? Jorge