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Is Richard Dawkins a stage magician?

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Richard Dawkins has a new book out soon; ‘The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution.’ An unfortunate title perhaps, bearing in mind the type of acts that have performed under that banner headline in the past. So is Dawkins no more than a travelling conjurer pulling bunnies out of hats in the name of science? Is his show cart of evolution just a charade of smoke and mirrors?

Let’s be frank, Dawkins is in reality more dangerous than a harmless travelling charlatan – the type of twisting rhetoric that Dawkins engages in is the type that leads to tyranny, not to respectful dialogue or family entertainment. He should be more careful, but he seems to have sacrificed his cares on some high alter; perhaps the million dollar book deals are clouding his judgment, but in reality his atheism leaves him unaccountable to anyone but himself or his atheist friends in the Royal Society. Yes, his rhetoric often appears to be as dangerous as that of the atheism of the twentieth century that led to fascist and communist regimes that abused human rights and led to the deaths of millions.

Dawkins is currently being serialised in The Times. A first article is Creationists, now they’re coming for your children.’ 24th August 2009 in which he makes unsubstantiated, fear-mongering statements and compare those who disagree with evolution to ‘Holocaust deniers.’ You only have to read some of the responses to his article to see the irrational fear that he has stirred up in people who claim to be acting purely in the name of reason. One wrote; “We must act now. Free people everywhere should unite and stamp out this menace” All in the name of reason of course.

How stupid is that? I won’t grace him with the platitude that he does not know what response his words have. He is too intelligent for that, but why is he doing it? Any belief on his part to moral superiority is pure fantasy.

I am sure Richard Dawkins is aware that Holocaust denial is illegal in some countries; perhaps it is his aim to make evolution denial illegal in those countries where there is a resistance to Darwinism. ‘If evolution cannot win in the market place of scientific ideas, then we’ll sure win in the courts once it is a mandated belief’ would appear to be the direction of his rhetoric. What is Dawkins afraid of? Can’t evolution hold its own in the science arena?   

Next Dawkins thinks he ought to tell the Vicars and Bishops how to preach. He notes of course that all the leading clerics accept evolution, as if the authority of theologians will establish a truth in science.

But what of Dawkins’ scientific smoke and mirrors?

Nowhere in this article does he seek to qualify what he means by evolution. Evolution is a fact he asserts, a statement that even Henry Morris would have agreed with in part, but what type of evolution is ‘fact’? Natural selection of pre existing genetic information does not explain causally where that genetic information came from. Dawkins peddles the simplification that the process that gave a dalmatian spots is the same process that turns a bacterium into an ostrich, or a fish into a hippo. But Dawkins knows that neo-Darwinism is more complicated than that. The problem for Dawkins is that belief in evolution is dependant upon such over simplifications, because if people really understood the complexity of organic life and what is being claimed then they would not accept unguided molecule to man evolution. In other words evolution is rejected because people understand it too well, not too poorly, and Dawkins has to keep to the simple text to keep the illusion going. 

So we may ask – why cannot Dawkins and others conduct the discussion of origins in a more rational manner without the type of smoke and mirrors and fear-mongering rhetoric that is being engaged in with his article? What is at stake really? Is it science or is it his atheism?

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bornagain, Your silly reply only tells me you need to improve your quality of discourse before we can resume any kind of discussion.Dave Wisker
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The philosophy of materialism is at the root of communism: Georgi Plekhanov, the father of Russian Marxism, later introduced the term dialectical materialism to Marxist literature[2]. Stalin further codified it as Diamat and imposed it as the doctrine of Marxism-Leninism. The term wasn't coupled by Marx himself, and it refers to the combination of dialectics and materialism in Marx's thinking as material forces causing social and economic changes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialismbornagain77
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[The majority of the victims being "victims" of Communism/Dialectic Materialism!]
Political ideology = atheism? How convenient.Cabal
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In 1983, Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn, winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize for Literature, gave an address in London in which he attempted to explain why so much evil had befallen his people: Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened."bornagain77
August 24, 2009
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It is only rude to you if you find moving there unpleasant!bornagain77
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bornagain, Hey Dave how bout backing up your atheistic arrogance with a little stepping and move you arse to your your atheistic utopia of North Korea,,I’ll chip in for your ticket! What a rude comment.Dave Wisker
August 24, 2009
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Dave,,,would you mind picking you best, most concrete, proof of evolution from Theodosius Dobzhansky’s Genetics of the Evolutionary Process, or George Williams’s Adaptation and Natural Selection and lets see how well it holds up to scrutiny?bornagain77
August 24, 2009
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I'll chip in for you to Skewbornagain77
August 24, 2009
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Oh yeah Atheism/Materialism in its full glory: http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_power4.html Civilians Killed by Governments in the Twentieth Century: Top Twenty Regimes Location (Regime) Deaths Era Soviet Union (Communists) 61,900,000 1917-1990 China (Communists) 35,200,000 1949-present Germany (Nazi Third Reich) 20,900,000 1933-1945 China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949 Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945 China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948 Cambodia (Communists) 2,000,000 1975-1979 Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000 1909-1917 Vietnam (Communists) 1,700,000 1945-present North Korea (Communists) 1,700,000 1948-present Poland (Communists) 1,600,000 1945-1948 Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971 Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920 Yugoslavia (Communists) 1,100,000 1944-1990 Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917 Turkey (Mustafa Kemal "Ataturk")900,000 1918-1923 United Kingdom (Constitutional) 800,000 1900-present Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975 Croatia (Fascists) 700,000 1941-1945 Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present The top twenty regimes have killed--roughly-- 156,000,000 civilians in this century. [The majority of the victims being "victims" of Communism/Dialectic Materialism!] Hey Dave how bout backing up your atheistic arrogance with a little stepping and move you arse to your your atheistic utopia of North Korea,,I'll chip in for your ticket!bornagain77
August 24, 2009
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Oh yeah, this is a notable quote from the ABC article as well:
It turns out that this idea that liberals give more…is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above average percent of their income, 24 were red states in the last presidential election.
Just FYI.PaulN
August 24, 2009
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I agree completely, as well as pointing out that 3 out of the 4 greatest American philanthropists have been atheists or agnostics (according to the New York Times).
I'm not surprised to see that coming from the New York Times actually. Funny you mention 3 people though, because I had in mind a broader scope as far as charitable contributions. It seems to be unanimous among sources ranging from both sides of the spectrum that even though religious conservatives make on average about 6% less than their less-religious liberal counterparts, they still manage to give 30% more per household in charitable contributions per year. Just a couple sources (But you can find many more from google): ABC News Boston GlobePaulN
August 24, 2009
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Matthew 7:15-17 "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are savage wolves. You will know them by their fruit. Grapes aren't gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles, are they? In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a rotten tree produces bad fruit." The Fruit of Evolution - video http://edinburghcreationgroup.org/fruit.xml From Darwin To Hitler - Richard Weikart - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_5EwYpLD6A Stalin's Brutal Faith http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=276 The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression: Excerpt: Essentially a body count of communism's victims in the 20th century, the book draws heavily from recently opened Soviet archives. The verdict: communism was responsible for between 85 million and 100 million, non-war related, deaths in the century. (Of Note: Atheistic Communism is defined as Dialectic Materialism) http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Communism-Crimes-Repression/dp/0674076087 Atheist Atrocities Frightening Stats About Atheists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1KpNEeRYUbornagain77
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think it’s also worth noting all of the good, compassionate, selfless deeds that have come about from Christianity I agree completely, as well as pointing out that 3 out of the 4 greatest American philanthropists have been atheists or agnostics (according to the New York Times).Dave Wisker
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Skew Jones: This kind of inane response is tantamount to the kindergarten : "I know you are but what am I?" tantrum. Grow up. Get a life.Borne
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I think it's also worth noting all of the good, compassionate, selfless deeds that have come about from Christianity. Then lets compare that to how many of such movements came about from Darwinian philosophy.PaulN
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Communism, by definition, is a system of government and not a religion. My fix was to prove that theism isn't responsible for the mass murder of 20 million Soviet citizens - materialist philosophy and atheism and Joseph Stalin did that.Barb
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Barb, wrt communism - it was a religion as good as any - and I don't see the Khmer Rouge as an army of atheists either. Sorry, but I find your fix bad. Where did you get it?Cabal
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Skew posted: "...the ravaging theism atheism and materialism that has scourged humanity since the dawn of time, and led to such tragedies as the Inquisition, the Crusades, and even the suicide bombings of the modern day Middle East the Holocaust, the systematic slaughter of people whether religious or not under atheistic dictators such as Pol Pot and Stalin, all of which abuse human rights and lead to the deaths of millions." Fixed it for you.Barb
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Jerry, I have been asking for a coherent defense of naturalistic evolution for the four years I have been commenting here. So far no one has stepped up. Hmm. So nobody has ever mentioned Theodosius Dobzhansky's Genetics of the Evolutionary Process, or George Williams's Adaptation and Natural Slelection before?Dave Wisker
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You must be new here, Skew. How could Christianity be termed "invaders" when the province under contention was founded by them?tragic mishap
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When I read his heavy-handed rhetoric, I can only ponder as to why rational people take his pseudointellectual tripe seriously.Barb
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I have been asking for a coherent defense of naturalistic evolution for the four years I have been commenting here. So far no one has stepped up. Maybe Sir Richard can do it and all the RFD's here will have their own bible to quote. So it will not be John 3, 12-18. Instead it will be Richard 14, 151-225 This should be a ROLAIDS for the anti ID commenters. Let the fun begin.jerry
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Andrew, thanks for this post. At first when I read
Dawkins is in reality more dangerous than a harmless travelling charlatan
I thought, Isn't that tone a bit more reactionary than necessary? But as I read what Dawkins has said and advocated about evolution dissenters, I changed my mind. If people listen to him... and some apparently do... 'danger' is not an exaggeration. I agree too, it is frustrating that rhetoriticians for Darwinism refuse to disclose what they mean by 'evolution' in distinction to their opponents. But apparently, as you point out, they use misleading language because their appeal can't stand if the true nature of the disagreement is made clear. OT: 'alter' sp. --> 'altar'lars
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lol. Pick on someone of your own intelligence Andrew.tragic mishap
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