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In a recent post over at Why Evolution Is True, Professor Jerry Coyne addresses what he regards as the “main incompatibility between science and religion.” Coyne is confident that science is a legitimate arbiter of truth because “there’s only one brand of science, with most scientists agreeing on what’s true,” whereas “there are tens of thousands of brands of religion, many making conflicting and incompatible claims.” In today’s short post, I’d like to explain why Coyne’s assertion about science is fundamentally mistaken.

First of all, “conflicting claims” and “conflicting brands” are two very different things. At any given moment, there are literally thousands of conflicting and incompatible claims being made within each field of science. That’s part of the way science is done. Scientists call these claims hypotheses. Scientific hypotheses are continually being tested, and the vast majority of them end up being falsified or substantially modified. However, multiple conflicting claims don’t overthrow the unity of science, because scientists all agree on a single method for testing those claims: the scientific method (illustrated below, image courtesy of Professor Theodore Garland and Wikipedia). Right?

Wrong. As philosopher Paul Feyerabend trenchantly argued in his work, Against Method, the notion that there is a fixed scientific method is a myth:

Against Method explicitly drew the “epistemological anarchist” conclusion that there are no useful and exceptionless methodological rules governing the progress of science or the growth of knowledge. The history of science is so complex that if we insist on a general methodology which will not inhibit progress the only “rule” it will contain will be the useless suggestion: “anything goes”. In particular, logical empiricist methodologies and Popper’s Critical Rationalism would inhibit scientific progress by enforcing restrictive conditions on new theories.
(Preston, John, “Paul Feyerabend“, The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2016 Edition), edited by Edward N. Zalta.)

Professor Coyne might reply that while the scientific method evolves over the course of time, it is still something which all branches of science are more or less agreed on, at any given point in time. But this won’t do, either. Consider the sciences of cosmology, chemistry, biology, psychology and archaeology. Can anyone credibly claim that these branches of science all practice the same method? The only thing which these various disciplines could be said to share in common is that they continually generate hypotheses which can be be tested and experimentally falsified. Is falsifiability the hallmark of science, then? Alas, no: it turns out to be neither sufficient nor necessary to define science.

One problem with the falsifiability criterion is that it is far too loose: religions could also be said to generate hypotheses and discard them when they prove false. The history of the Millerite movement affords an excellent illustration of this point. In 1822, a Baptist lay preacher named William Miller became convinced that the return of Christ would take place around the year 1843. He gathered quite a following, and when 1843 passed without incident, another preacher named Samuel Sheffield Snow, who was a disciple of Miller, announced his conclusion that the Second Coming would take place on October 22, 1844, instead. Many of Miller’s followers were sadly disillusioned when this prophecy also failed to eventuate, but some formed new churches of their own, the most notable of which is the Seventh Day Adventist Church. October 22, 1844 was reinterpreted as the date when Christ entered the Holy of Holies in the heavenly sanctuary, and began his “investigative judgment” of God’s professed followers. The Second Coming will occur shortly after a “time of trouble,” when the Church will be persecuted worldwide.

Another problem with the falsifiability criterion is that not all scientists accept it, anyway. In a provocative 2014 article for Edge, theoretical physicist Sean Carroll described falsifiability as a scientific idea “ready for retirement.” Carroll argued that the virtue of any scientific theory lies in its ability to account for the data, regardless of whether the theory is empirically falsifiable or not. Carroll contended that if string theory and the theory of the multiverse are able to unify physics and account for our observations, then it makes perfect sense for scientists to accept these theories, even though we have no way of falsifying them:

In complicated situations, fortune-cookie-sized mottos like “theories should be falsifiable” are no substitute for careful thinking about how science works. Fortunately, science marches on, largely heedless of amateur philosophizing. If string theory and multiverse theories help us understand the world, they will grow in acceptance. If they prove ultimately too nebulous, or better theories come along, they will be discarded. The process might be messy, but nature is the ultimate guide.

Professor Carroll’s views remain highly controversial, and many prominent scientists vehemently disagree with them. In an article in Nature (vol. 516, pp. 321–323, 18 December 2014) titled, Scientific method: Defend the integrity of physics, physicists George Ellis and Joe Silk concur with the verdict of theoretical physicist Sabine Hossenfelder, that “post-empirical science is an oxymoron,” and they conclude that “[t]he imprimatur of science should be awarded only to a theory that is testable.” Nevertheless, it is undeniably true that over the course of time, many scientific theories end up becoming immune to falsification, simply because they come to define an entire field. It is safe to say that atomic theory will never be overturned, because it defines the field of chemistry; and evolutionists would have us believe that their theory defines the science of biology, in a similar fashion. (Of course, it doesn’t; as Dr. Jonathan Wells has pointed out, if anything defines the science of biology, it’s cell theory, which it is safe to say will never be falsified, either.)

We have seen that the view that there is a single way of doing science is a historically naive notion, which forces the various branches of science into a straitjacket and overlooks their vital differences. But there is another, deep-seated flaw associated with the “single method” view. What it ignores is that within a given branch of science, there are often profound and ongoing differences between individual scientists as to how that branch of science should be practiced. This is true not only for the arcane science of theoretical physics, but also for sciences such as biology and psychology, as well. Wikipedia lists no fewer than 40 different schools of psychology, for instance. It is very hard to see what a radical behaviorist who denies the reality of mental states has in common with a cognitive psychologist, for whom mental states play a vital explanatory role. What separates these schools of thought is not just their theories, but their whole view of what it means to be a human being. In particular, is what we call “thinking” merely a complicated piece of behavior, or is it something which we need to posit in order to explain our behavior?

The example cited above might be dismissed by people who regard psychology as a “soft” science. But nobody can deny that biology is a bona fide science. And what is becoming increasingly apparent, in the twenty-first century, is that the field of biology is fragmenting. The ongoing feud between Darwinists and adherents of Motoo Kimura’s neutral theory of evolution may perhaps be papered over. But it cannot be denied that evolutionary biologist Eugene Koonin’s appeal to “the logic of chance” and to multiverse theory, as a way of explaining “biological big bangs,” is far removed from conventional evolutionary theory. Professor James Shapiro’s concept of natural genetic engineering, which he touts as a new paradigm for understanding biological evolution, is another example of the fragmentation currently occurring within the science of biology. Dr. Michael Denton’s structuralism (an idea he borrows from the nineteenth century biologist Richard Owen), is an even more radical case in point, as it rejects historical explanations for a host of complex structures, in favor of “laws of form.” Lastly, it could be said that the Intelligent Design movement represents a fundamentally different approach to the science of biology from that favored by most scientists during the past 140 years – one in which intelligent agency plays a vital role in explaining biological systems which perform a highly specific function, but whose origin cannot plausibly be ascribed to either chance, necessity or some combination of the two.

The most that could be said for Coyne’s simplistic claim that there is “only one brand of science” is that within any branch of science, there may be long periods during which there is a “dominant paradigm” which dictates how that particular science should be practiced, and that there is a “family resemblance” between the various ways in which science is practiced, in different fields. Professor Coyne had the good fortune to grow up during a period when a single “dominant paradigm” governed the science of evolutionary biology. Now, the dominant paradigm has splintered; and perhaps Coyne would be well-advised to reconcile himself to Chairman Mao Zedong’s policy of “letting a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend.”

At any rate, what is beyond dispute is that Professor Coyne’s trumpeting of the methodological unity of science as a ground for making it the sole arbiter of truth can no longer be defended: it is philosophically naive, historically inaccurate and at odds with the way in which real science is done. Coyne’s diatribe against the “tens of thousands of brands of religion, many making conflicting and incompatible claims,” is equally ill-informed: almost 70% of humanity now adheres to just one of three religions (Christianity, Islam and Hinduism, which are all broadly monotheistic), and it is fair to say that the 800-million-odd adherents of folk and indigenous religions will probably be absorbed into one of these three religions (or Buddhism), with the rise of globalization. What’s more, the claims of Christianity, Islam and Judaism are certainly testable over the long-term, and all of these religions are potentially falsifiable by scientific discoveries. (I’ve previously described what would falsify my Christian faith, and the claims of Islam would be falsified if it could be shown that Muhammad was not a real person, while Judaism’s credibility depends critically on the long-term fate of the Jewish people.) In short: the claim that science occupies a uniquely privileged position as an arbiter of truth rests on a distorted view of both science and religion – and, I might add, it naively ignores the discipline of philosophy, which informs both endeavors.

What do readers think?

Comments
Hi Professor Moran, Thank you for your comment. You write, "I'm pretty sure you've read Jerry Coyne’s book Faith vs. Fact." That's very odd, because I explicitly stated in a comment on your blog site on January 26: "No, I haven't read the book, as I couldn't afford to order it..." (That remains the case; I can only afford to order one or two books a year from Amazon.) You must have read that comment of mine, because you replied: "I will not comment on anything you say until you read the book." You also quote Coyne as saying in his book, Faith vs. Fact, that "scientists and philosophers now agree that there is no scientific method" (p.32). That's news to me, as Coyne has not, as far as I am aware, previously stated that on his Website, and a Google search on the phrase "there is no scientific method" came up with no links to Coyne's Website, either. In fact, Coyne has previously written as if he believed in "the scientific method." Here, for instance, is what Coyne says in a 2011 post, in response to a critical review of Why Evolution Is True by Professor Robert Bishop (bolding below is mine - VJT):
I won’t further belabor the evidence, except to say that everyone, including Bishop, lives their lives based on the reliability of the scientific method. The ends justify the method. In contrast, religious “ways of knowing” don’t have that reliability: we don’t even know if God exists, much less what he’s like if he does. Different religions of the world all believe different things and have different tenets. If faith were as reliable as science, that wouldn’t be the case. Religious claims have no way of being checked, and that’s why science wins.
See? Professor Coyne uses the singular to refer to the scientific method. In another post, he writes that smallpox was cured "by scientific methods" (plural) but in the same paragraph, he also writes: "we justify science rather than faith as a way of finding out stuff not on the basis of first principles, but on the basis of which method actually gives us reliable information about the universe." There's the singular again. My guess is that Coyne may have had some last-minute advice from a philosopher of science, before publishing his latest book, Faith vs. Fact. Hence the inclusion of the qualifying statement that there is no single scientific method. But if Coyne thinks that's the case, then that makes his recent assertion that "there's only one brand of science" all the more troubling. If science is not unified by its subject matter, nor by its methodology, then in what meaningful sense can we say that there's only one brand of science? You attempt to resurrect Coyne's statement by pointing to several features which (according to Coyne) can be said to characterize science: "falsifiability" ["for a theory of fact to be seen as correct, there must be a ways of showing it to be wrong"], “doubt and criticality” (= skepticism), “replication and quality control” (don’t accept facts until they’ve been independently confirmed), “parsimony” (as a general rule a simple explanation is preferable to an overly complex one), and “living with uncertainty” (saying “I don’t know” is preferable to making up fantastic stories). But as I pointed out in my July 2015 post, Faith vs. Fact: Jerry Coyne’s flawed epistemology (which was written not as a book review but as "a critical analysis of the arguments Coyne advances in his book, and which he has defended elsewhere"), Coyne has expressly stated that replicability is not an essential part of science, and that scientific claims do not need to be replicable. Historical hypotheses cannot be replicated; however, Coyne holds that if they make predictions that can be tested, then they qualify as real science. So we are left with falsifiability, predictions, doubt, parsimony and uncertainty as the defining criteria of science. The problem is that religion exhibits many of these criteria as well, suggesting that the difference between the two is one of degree, rather than kind. As I argued in my OP, the Abrahamic religions are eminently falsifiable: even the demythologizing scholar Rudolph Bultmann admitted that Christianity hinges on what he called "das Dass" (the fact that Jesus was a real historical individual who proclaimed the coming of God's kingdom). And while I can (just) imagine a Judaism without Moses, it's impossible to imagine the Jewish faith without the character of Ezra. Proof that Ezra, Jesus and Muhammad were fictional characters would destroy all three faiths. The Abrahamic faiths also make predictions about the future: Judaism and Christianity say that the Messiah will return in glory, and Christianity and Islam say that the coming of Jesus will usher in the Last Judgement. According to all three faiths, human beings will be around to witness these incidents, so the empirical prediction being made here is that the human race will not die out as a result of some catastrophe, whether man-made or natural. Doubt or skepticism plays a vital part in Judaism: in an article titled, From Belief to Faith, Rabbi Daniel Gordis writes that "the Torah goes to great lengths to reassure the searching Jew that skepticism is healthy, legitimate, and even cele­brated in Jewish life." The Bible itself tells us: “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Deuteronomy 18:22 states: "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken." Parsimony is also part-and-parcel of the Abrahamic faiths: what else do you think motivates their insistence that there is only one God? Belief in one God is simpler and makes a lot more sense than belief in many gods. And let us not forget that William of Occam (after whom Occam's razor is named) was a Franciscan friar. St. Thomas Aquinas himself wrote that "it is superfluous to suppose that what can be accounted for by a few principles has been produced by many." (Of course, the principle known as Occam's razor pre-dates Occam: it goes back to Pythagoras.) What about uncertainty? Consider the Catholic faith, which is commonly said to be the most dogmatic faith of them all. Allow me to quote from George Bernard Shaw, in his Preface to St. Joan: "Compared with our infallible democracies, our infallible medical councils, or infallible astronomers, our infallible judges, our infallible parliaments, the Pope is on his knees in the dust confessing his ignorance before the throne of God, asking only that as to certain historical matters on which he has clearly more sources of information open to him than anyone else his decision shall be taken as final." To this day, Catholics are free to choose between a vast panoply of beliefs, when it comes to the origin of living things: Young Earth creationism (which still has a few Catholic adherents), Old Earth creationism, Intelligent Design and currently accepted theories of evolution (Darwinism or the neutral theory) - the only restrictions being that all Catholics must acknowledge that God created the universe and maintains it (and its laws) in being, that the human soul is a spiritual creation, and that the Fall was a real historical event which affects all of us, to this day. The fact is that the Church gives its members far more intellectual freedom than modern science does. (It's also worth noting that Mike Behe and Ken Miller are both Catholics, as is Dr. Maciej Giertych, a professor of genetics with a Ph.D. from Toronto who is also a young-earth creationist.) By the way: I am indeed aware that Coyne would personally agree with much of what I wrote on falsifiability being an important part of science. Nowhere did I suggest otherwise. My aim, however, was to point out that this criterion is incapable of serving to distinguish science from religion. You write that it is incumbent on critics of scientism to put forward "a different way of knowing that actually discovers true knowledge." I agree. I'd like to propose two such methods. Metaphysics is one such way of knowing. As I wrote in my 2015 review of the arguments in Coyne's book, Faith vs. Fact, "there are certain truths which we can know, given the mere fact that we live in a world where science is possible." Science is built upon a bedrock of metaphysics. For instance, the existence of causality is a presupposition of there being any kind of science at all. The same goes for the statement that there are things (or entities, or substances) of some sort, which fall into fairly well-defined categories ("essences") which are characterized by certain distinguishing properties. As I showed in my post, Professor Coyne himself endorses a kind of biological essentialism, although he would add that these essences (or species) gradually change, over the course of geological time. In my post, I also argued in defense of intuition as a way of knowing: in everyday life, we arrive at certitude about facts - both general and particular - long before we have had a chance to confirm them scientifically. Such certitude is, I argued, justifiable, notwithstanding the fact that some of our intuitions occasionally turn out to be wrong. It would be a fallacy to argue that because an alleged source of knowledge is fallible, it is therefore incapable of yielding knowledge. Science is fallible, but no-one doubts that it yields genuine knowledge. If you think that science can proceed without metaphysics, or that ordinary people can live their lives without relying on intuition, then I'd like to hear why.vjtorley
February 20, 2016
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Mung: "There is a review online of Coyne’s book which makes him look like an utter idiot when it comes to his claims about his definition of science and religion. linked from here Have you read it? 'Biologist Jerry Coyne has managed to write what might be the worst book yet published in the New Atheist genre.' Ouch." I agree. Feser (rhymes with phasor) really made himself look bad there, but he does that all the time. He's sort of an 'insult philosopher', but he insults things he doesn't understand and they keep blowing up on him. For instance, in his review, he says, "The book flies off the rails before it reaches page one. In an unintentionally comic passage in his preface, Coyne explains what he has in mind by 'religion.'". Then he lists a bunch of things Coyne says that Fesor says are self contradictory and claims Coyne's idea of religion is Bible Belt fundamentalism. Then you read that section in the actual book and Coyne is just giving a good summary of the wide range of world religious beliefs and describing which parts of which beliefs have scientific problems. Feser gets offended because, "The theology of Thomas Aquinas, Hindu nationalism, the cargo cults of Melanesia, Scientology—all of these and more are casually lumped together as examples of religion..." But they ARE all examples of religion! In the blog post you cite, he quotes Plantina as saying, "Naturalism entails that we cannot know whether any of our beliefs are true.” and then goes on, "The reason is that neither their truth nor their falsity would be relevant to the behavior associated with them, and it is the behavior alone which (Plantinga argues) natural selection can mold." I can hardly believe that Plantinga and Fesor actually believe that. It would imply that a mouse that believes, "Cats are friendly to mice" is going to behave the same way as a mouse that believes "Cats kill and eat mice" and that natural selection can't influence which belief gets passed on.MatSpirit
February 20, 2016
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Forgot to add: And if they can come up with ways of testing those theories, and they pass the tests, they may join the ranks of established theories.MatSpirit
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Johnnyb: "Under the qualities you list, does string theory count as science? Why or why not?" Sure, it counts as theoretical science where theorists try to come up with theories that explain the observations, are self consistent and compatible with all or most established theories.MatSpirit
February 20, 2016
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Virgil Cain: "By any definition of science evolutionism isn’t science. That is because its claims cannot be tested. For example both Coyne and Moran will choke on or ignore the following question: How can we test the claim that ATP synthase arose via natural selection, drift and/ or neutral construction?" . Mike 1962: "ATP synthase arose via random variation and natural selection How can this be verified? How can this be falsified?" . How would you go about testing this hypothesis? We observe that every living organism uses ATP so we believe it evolved very early, but the only way I can think of to find the exact path it took would be to have lots and lots of samples from the period it evolved in, but we don't. Considering that we'd be looking for samples of organic molecules preserved intact from circa four billion years ago, we probably never will. Darwinian evolution implies that everything we observed today evolved from previous ancestors. Everything we have observed so far supports that hypothesis, but we will probably never have the fossil molecules to trace out all the exact paths. YEC and ID creationists like to demand detailed descriptions of how every single thing on earth evolved, secure in the knowledge that science can't supply that information. Yet ID/YEC can't answer that question either. For instance, suppose I challenged you to tell me exactly how ID says ATP came to be. If you think an Intelligent Designer is responsible, describe the stages it happened in. Did all the organisms get ATP at once? Tell us when and where it happened. Did the Designer give some of the organisms ATP before others got it? Show us the fossils that prove it happend that way. Did God/The Designer give life intermediate forms of ATP before settling on the modern molecules? Show us the fossils. Suppose i told you that if ID can't provide such information, it's falsified. You would think that was very unfair because no evidence exists for either side to tell exactly how ATP came to exist. Yet you think that if evolution can't answer the question, it's falsified. It's like insisting for a hundred years that Relativity was wrong because it predicts gravitational waves exist and no Physicist had ever observed them.MatSpirit
February 20, 2016
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In answer to Larry moran's ideas on what science is. Yes in these days SCIENCE has lost credibility as a specific methodology. Yes WAY OF KNOWING is fine but it really means KNOWING is established. That is science os about proving things by a high standard of investigation. People see the standard and then say the conclusions are scientific. The quality of our DRUGS etc meets this standard. Medical drugs abilities are proven from scientific standards of investigation. So it is a methodology relative to other methodology's. it must be or its just regular investigation. its not regular but special. So science is a high standard of investigation that can DEMAND confidence in its conclusions. The critic can take on the conclusions only by a equal high standard of investigation or by denying a high standard was applied to the conclusion. I say in evolution its the latter but many say its the former. Here everybody is in the ring. Coyne's idea of science is confusing and wordy and not plain simple. Science to be something must be something special. IT is about proving things. Its fine with the list of proofs. BUT prove relative to the great claims. At this point in intellectual history science definition should not be a mystery. Its not. Its just people figuring things out and proving it by excellent proofs. Biological hypothesis must be proved by biology or they fail to be science. Biology is not fossils, comparative genetics/anatomy or comparing anything. Its not biogeography, or ecology, . It must be about actual processes in the hand. Biology is done with sticky fingers in goo. Not with pickaxes and dynamite. Evolution is not a biological scientific hypothesis. Thats why its not persuasive and why its persuasive to those persuaded. Science is real and not a complicated subject to comprehend. By the way KNOWING would include someone telling you WHO is in the know. So Gods bible is one of those knowing ways unless its dosmissed out of hand.Robert Byers
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Hi Larry, I appreciate it when you take time to post here at UD. There is a review online of Coyne's book which makes him look like an utter idiot when it comes to his claims about his definition of science and religion. linked from here Have you read it? Biologist Jerry Coyne has managed to write what might be the worst book yet published in the New Atheist genre. Ouch.Mung
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Larry Moran - Under the qualities you list, does string theory count as science? Why or why not?johnnyb
February 19, 2016
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This is a classic example of formulating an idea you can test, a hypothesis:
ATP synthase arose via random variation and natural selection
A well designed experiment tests the hypothesis to be either "true" or "false". Uncertainty can indicate a better experiment is needed. The word "falsified" is in my opinion scientifically useless, needs to go.GaryGaulin
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ATP synthase arose via random variation and natural selection How can this be verified? How can this be falsified?mike1962
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By any definition of science evolutionism isn't science. That is because its claims cannot be tested. For example both Coyne and Moran will choke on or ignore the following question: How can we test the claim that ATP synthase arose via natural selection, drift and/ or neutral construction? And larry, all YOU do is misrepresent your opponents in an attempt to score some cheap points. You are one pathetic hypocriteVirgil Cain
February 19, 2016
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Vincent, I know for a fact that you have been following the debate on the compatibility of science and religion and I'm pretty sure you've read Jerry Coyne's book Faith vs. Fact. You should be familiar with his position on the definition of science—which happens to be mine as well. Coyne uses the broad definition of science as a way of knowing. It is not restricted to scientists. He has made this very clear in his books, on his blog, and in his popular writings. Coyne does not believe in a single scientific method. He makes this very clear in Faith vs. Fact on page 32: "But scientists and philosophers now agree that there is no scientific method." He has made the same point repeatedly over the past decade. Coyne describes a number of "important features that distinguish science from pseudoscience, from religion, and from what are euphemistically called 'other ways of knowing.'" Here, he's talking about the activities of scientists but later on he will explain that these features also apply to everyone else who seeks truth and knowledge. One of the features is falsifiability. He says (page 33),
Although philosophers of science argue about its importance, scientists by and large adhere to the criterion of 'falsifiability' as an essential way of finding truth. What this means is that for a theory of fact to bee seen as correct, there must be a ways of showing it to be wrong, and those ways must have been tried and failed.
Vincent, you know very well that Coyne would agree with just about everything you said about the limitations of falsifiability as a strict requirement of science as a way of knowing. You know that, but you misrepresented his position anyway. Why did you do that? According to Coyne, the other "features" that characterize the science way of knowing are: "doubt and criticality" (= skepticism), "replication and quality control" (don't accept facts until they've been independently confirmed), "parsimony" (as a general rule a simple explanation is preferable to an overly complex one), and "living with uncertainty" (saying "I don't know" is preferable to making up fantastic stories). He points out that when you apply these features to the search for truth you are doing "science," broadly speaking. When there are millions of people all around the world who do this then the strength of the consensus conclusions is reinforced by surviving repeated attempts to refute them by very critical scientists. Many of them come from very different backgrounds and cultures and this helps to negate and dampen any cultural and religious biases. Such biases are inherent in any human activity but the practice of science as a way of knowing is set up in a way that tries to counter these biases. Coyne describes this as "collectivity" (page 38). I'm pretty sure that you and your creationist friends don't agree with this description of science as a way of knowing because you don't like the "truth" that this way of knowing produces. That's fine. You can present your case for a different way of knowing that actually discovers true knowledge. (Good luck with that attempt.) What you can't do is misrepresent your opponent's point of view in order to score some cheap shots at a strawman.Larry Moran
February 19, 2016
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We know that science "works" only due to certain metaphysical assumptions; without those underpinnings, science, like all means of inquiry, would fall apart at the seams.OldArmy94
February 19, 2016
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There are many "experimental methods" used to gather various types of "experimental data". In all cases the purpose of the experimental methods are for an ongoing process by which the "scientific method" is used to answer questions people have, by developing scientific theories to explain how something works or happened. There actually is child simple logic to all this. But strict following of the tenets of Methodological Naturalism led the ID movement to religious philosophy where the scientific method is corrupted by invoking "supernatural" entities in a way that avoids having to scientifically develop their own scientific theory.GaryGaulin
February 18, 2016
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Again one must insist that there is no conflict between religion and science but ONLY between conclusions. Modern creationism contends for its conclusions using science or we think we do. Except for some YEC conclusions from genesis etc most of creationism takes on bad guys international on the EVIDENCE OF NATURE using scientific methodology. Whats this Coyne's beef? If genesis says something then it might be hard to prove it by mans investigation BUT it should be easy to debunk any alternative view that is against genesis. Why is there so much uncertainty about what science is?? Its dumb. Science is just proving things by proven rules. Relative to the claim the proof must be shown. In criminal cases its proof without doubt and in civil cases its weighing the proof. Its degrees of proof. Science was a concept to raise the standard of proof before conclusions were established. Simple idea. Science does not innovate or imagine or get the credit. People do those. Science IS a methodology of proof reading. Evolutionism fails because the methodology is cheated. they don't make conclusions about biology on biology proof. Instead its fossils, comparative anatomy/genetics, and other foreign things. Newton and Einstein proved their stuff. Darwin and clan do not. They speculate and then conclude they did science. Why is evolution true book by Coyne is case in point of why evolution is not science. Just watch it on youtube. No bio sci is introdiced as proof.. ZIPPO! Or prove me wrong!! ID folks screw this up too.Robert Byers
February 18, 2016
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"Carroll contended that if string theory and the theory of the multiverse are able to unify physics and account for our observations, then it makes perfect sense for scientists to accept these theories, even though we have no way of falsifying them:" Of course, one thing that sets such unfalsifiable theories apart from falsifiable ones is that they are useless in any practical application, since they cannot be used to generate risky predictions. It requires a theory that is capable of making risky predictions in order to differentiate sense from nonsense in the real, useful world. If physicists are successful in "accounting for" physics with nonfalsifiable theories of the multiverse and strings, then fine, they can have it. But it will be a useless curiosity and nobody except a relatively few egg heads will give a crap about it.mike1962
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Science needs to be democratized. The ancient Greeks used to have multiple competing schools of thoughts and it was up to the public to choose which ones they like. But today we have a dictatorship of the one true state religion of atheism and materialism. Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot and Kim Jong-un come to mind. A revolution is in order.Mapou
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“there’s only one brand of science, with most scientists agreeing on what’s true” It is simply not the case that there is only one brand of science.Mung
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Thanks vjtorley for your very apt intervention against Coyne's naive scientism. I would add only that religions are many, but the major orthodox traditions share at their inner esoteric center the same metaphysics. They differ only at the peripheral level, on minor details that depend on race, country, history, habits... of very different people. It is so because, despite of the many names used to refer to it (God, Brahma, Tao, Allah, En Sof...) the metaphysical unlimited Principle is necessarily one. In fact, if it were not unique it couldn't be unlimited. Consequently, as a traditional dictum says, "The doctrine of Unity is unique". The supporters of scientism like Coyne believe that modern science has the monopoly of all truths. In reality the knowledge this science gives us is infinitesimal when compared to the metaphysical Knowledge related to the above doctrine, which by the way overarches all possible sciences. Finally, to Coyne I would remember another dictum, which is useful to us all to be prepared before we die, "All sciences abandon man at his death, only the science of Unity accompanies him".niwrad
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