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Killer headline here: Stasis found in peach pits, 2.5 mya

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From ScienceDaily:

Scientists have found eight well-preserved fossilized peach endocarps, or pits, in southwest China dating back more than two and a half million years. Despite their age, the fossils appear nearly identical to modern peach pits.

“We found these peach endocarp fossils just exposed in the strata,” Su said. “It’s really a fantastic finding.”

Su said the discovery provides important new evidence for the origins and evolution of the modern fruit. Peaches are widely thought to have originated in China, but the oldest evidence had been archeological records dating back roughly 8,000 years. No wild population has ever been found, and its long trade history makes tracing its beginnings difficult. More.

Of course, humans have done a lot of breeding of peaches in the comparatively very recent past. But most of its history, it has been the same old peach.

Stasis is interesting because Darwin believed (his theory depends on it) that

… natural selection is daily and hourly scrutinizing, throughout the world, every variation, even the slightest; rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good; silently and insensibly working, wherever and whenever opportunity offers, at the improvement of each organic being in relation to its organic and inorganic conditions of life.

But nature does not do that, not in particular anyway. Sometimes things change, and sometimes they don’t.

Darwinism depends on the pretense that natural selection is a force of some kind. If all it means is that more life forms come into existence than can survive and breed, absent any specific further predictions, it is a trivial commonplace.

Anyway, Mother Nature is a beech, not a peach.

See also: Stasis: Life goes on but evolution does not happen

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Here’s the abstract:

Peach (Prunus persica, Rosaceae) is an extremely popular tree fruit worldwide, with an annual production near 20 million tons. Peach is widely thought to have origins in China, but its evolutionary history is largely unknown. The oldest evidence for the peach has been Chinese archaeological records dating to 8000–7000?BP. Here, we report eight fossil peach endocarps from late Pliocene strata of Kunming City, Yunnan, southwestern China. The fossils are identical to modern peach endocarps, including size comparable to smaller modern varieties, a single seed, a deep dorsal groove, and presence of deep pits and furrows. These fossils show that China has been a critical region for peach evolution since long before human presence, much less agriculture. Peaches evolved their modern morphology under natural selection, presumably involving large, frugivorous mammals such as primates. Much later, peach size and variety increased through domestication and breeding. Open access – Tao Su, Peter Wilf, Yongjiang Huang, Shitao Zhang, Zhekun Zhou. Peaches Preceded Humans: Fossil Evidence from SW China. Scientific Reports, 2015; 5: 16794 DOI: 10.1038/srep16794

8 Replies to “Killer headline here: Stasis found in peach pits, 2.5 mya

  1. 1
    Robert Byers says:

    Its always this way.
    tEverything we have today can be found in fossilized form, like these peaches, from 5-10 million years ago bY their geology ideas.
    In reality its just a few thousand years.

  2. 2
    ppolish says:

    Old song, but always makes me feel the good Lord:) RIP Duane (or one of those bros – they kind of all looked the same).

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLCupIeOi9GeIRqft9aQlAMmvbUQCPbXI7&v=wwyXQn9g40I

  3. 3
    Jack Jones says:

    @2 ppolish

    I am a fan of the Allman Brothers music too and like many of their songs, Shame about Duane, He was a great slide player.

  4. 4
    bornagain says:

    Oh YEAAAHHH

    Allman Brothers Band – Soulshine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDIQ7Otf1mw

  5. 5
    Jack Jones says:

    @4

    I love that song Born

    I have it on my mp3 player, ok we are going off topic here.

    hahaha

  6. 6
    Jack Jones says:

    “Stasis is interesting because Darwin believed (his theory depends on it) that

    … natural selection is daily and hourly scrutinizing, throughout the world, every variation, even the slightest; rejecting that which is bad, preserving and adding up all that is good; silently and insensibly working, wherever and whenever opportunity offers, at the improvement of each organic being in relation to its organic and inorganic conditions of life.”

    Evolution is a Philosophy Denyse, Evolutionists accommodate whatever is found. They can accommodate change or no change even for millions of years.

    Their rules are, heads they win, tails you lose. That’s the way these Evolutionists are.

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    jimmontg says:

    It’s funny to me. It’s like a professor at UNC Asheville who tries to indoctrinate my students who I prep for college. Most have come from home schools and Christian schools. These “teachers will point at something like this and other examples along these lines and say, “Well, it’s only two million years. How much evolution do you expect to have happened?” It gives me great satisfaction when my students point out that we humans are supposedly evolved from Australopithecine apes in the same amount of time. Only 200,000 years separates us from species that some scientist consider to be quite primitive to modern Homo Sapiens. Peaches can remain nearly the same as so many other fossil species do for millions of years, but humankind has evolved with incredible speed in comparison. So fast it defies coherent explanation in fact.

    The names and locations have been changed to protect the guilty.

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    mahuna says:

    “the discovery provides important new evidence for the origins and evolution of the modern fruit.”

    Origins and evolution?? The “discovery” tells us that fully modern peaches appeared POOF! right where we thought they had first appeared. Since then, peaches apparently haven’t changed, except under domesticated breeding by humans.

    Might the field teams have found ANYTHING in the same area that might have morphed into a peach, “origin-wise”?

    And why is 2-1/2 million years of stasis evidence for “evolution” of peaches.

    But then perhaps it’s REQUIRED that any report on a dig include the magic words “evidence for origins and evolution” before getting on to a discussion of the facts.

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