Larry Moran Gets it Right on Behe’s Dover Testimony

_{Barry Arrington

December 14, 2015

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In Did Michael Behe say that astrology was scientific in Kitzmiller v. Dover? Moran actually excerpts the testimony and then concludes:

I mostly agree with Behe. Astrology was an attempt to explain human behaviors by relating them to the position of the Earth on the day you were born. There is no connection. So today we think of astrology as bad science. It’s not true that the stars determine your behavior and whenever we make this claim to an astologist we make sure to point out that the evidence is against it.

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We compliment Dr. Moran on his analysis as well as on his often-expressed willingness to buck the conventional wisdom of his “side” of the debate.

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Someone who believes that unguided material processes can create brains that are far more complex than the entire Internet combined is correcting an astrologer on 'science' by pointing to evidence? :)
The Atheist Doctor (Denial of Evidence) - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQzQpnYhKI What They Really Teach Students In A Evolutionary Biology Class – cartoon http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-96cpSHPgIL4/VCftJobtPmI/AAAAAAAALf8/ZVyC7GB9dm0/s1600/Darwinism_See%2BNo.jpg I wonder when Darwinists will be reasonable and admit that they have been wrong? - picture http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/09/article-2535709-1A7D371000000578-703_964x531.jpg Anti-Science Irony (Who is really anti-science?) - October 2011 Excerpt: In response to a letter from Asa Gray, professor of biology at Harvard University, Darwin declared: “I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science.” When questioned further by Gray, Darwin confirmed Gray’s suspicions: “What you hint at generally is very, very true: that my work is grievously hypothetical, and large parts are by no means worthy of being called induction.” Darwin had turned against the use of scientific principles in developing his theory of evolution.,,, Just two weeks before the (re)lease of The Origin of Species, Erasmus Darwin, his brother, consoled him in a letter: “In fact, the a priori reasoning is so entirely satisfactory to me that if the facts [evidence] won’t fit, why so much the worse for the facts, in my feeling.” http://www.darwinthenandnow.com/2011/10/anti-science-irony/
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Science is fust people figuring things out. Why is there a excuse for error on astrology back in the day. Did a serious thoughtful methodology take place in understanding astrology. ? no! they say science started with Newton. It didn't but the point is that it must be something or its nothing. The best it can be IS a high standard of investigation that can demand confidence in its conclusions. Not case closed but confidence. Science is behind our use of drugs. its gotta have credibility. I say astrology was never a scientific study. they didn't do a high standard of investigation into its claims. in fact early science is about tiny numbers of men . Very few people investigating nature at q high standard. ID is science simply because its obvious its a high standard of investigation into what it studys. its not in any way a religious investigation. its absurd for anyone to say or think so. especially lawyers in black robes. (famous judge bork quote) you says iD wasn't a solid investigation? On what grounds? Is evolution a solid investigation? i say NO if its on BIOLOGICAL science. not a high standard. take 'em to courtRobert Byers_{December 14, 2015
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Yes indeed, the evidence IS against it. But there was no way of knowing so in antiquity, or even in the early modern period. The stars and the other planets were assumed to be higher, better, and more powerful than Earth. What more logical than that they should exert compelling influences? As an English poet wrote, in jest, but referring to a common belief, -- Shut, shut the door, good John! fatigu'd, I said, Tie up the knocker, say I'm sick, I'm dead. The dog-star rages! nay 'tis past a doubt, All Bedlam, or Parnassus, is let out: Fire in each eye, and papers in each hand, They rave, recite, and madden round the land. [People were thought to be more likely to go crazy when Sirius (the dog-star) was more visible.] -- It was one of those odd situations where the observed facts were largely correct but the reasonable conclusions drawn did not turn out to be.News_{December 14, 2015
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