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Materialist Ethics and the “Except Me” Tradition

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In this post I asked how a materialist could apply for a position as a professional ethicist. I asked: “Why should I pay someone $68,584 to say there is no real ultimate ethical difference between one moral response and another because they must both lead ultimately to the same place – nothingness.”

My point is illustrated by this quotation from professional materialist ethicist Peter Singer:

Whatever the future holds, it is likely to prove impossible to restore in full the sanctity-of-life view. The philosophical foundations of this view have been knocked asunder. We can no longer base our ethics on the idea that human beings are a special form of creation made in the image of God, singled out from all other animals, and alone possessing an immortal soul. Our better understanding of our own nature has bridged the gulf that was once thought to lie between ourselves and other species, so should we believe that the mere fact that a being is a member of the species Homo Sapiens endows its life with some unique, almost infinite value?

Peter Singer, “Sanctity of Life or Quality of Life?” Pediatrics 72, no. 1 (July 1983): 128-29.

The question at the end of the quotation is fascinating, because it highlights the branch-sawing nature of Singer’s project. People have no more intrinsic worth than pigs. Indeed, there is no such thing as “intrinsic worth,” because “worth” implies the “good” and the “good” does not exist. Everything is ultimately meaningless. But if that is true – and here’s where the branch sawing comes in – why should anyone care what a particularly clever hairless ape who goes by the name of “Peter Singer” says about anything? Are not his pronouncements as ultimately meaningless as everything else? Isn’t his solution to ethics as arbitrary as any other solution?

Here Singer is part of a larger post-modern tradition that I call the “except me” tradition. The post modern literature is full of long books by deconstructionists like Jacques Derrida who insist that long books have no intrinsic meaning (except books written by Derrida apparently). Similarly Singer insists that concepts like “good” and “evil” have no intrinsic meaning, except, apparently, when he says something is good.

The absurdity of all of this is palpable and it is hard to believe that Singer and Derrida don’t know this. Nevertheless, Derrida wrote long books and Singer makes ethical pronouncements. I suppose it is easy enough to understand why. Derrida sold a lot of books and Singer sits in a lucrative, secure and comfy endowed chair at Princeton. What is truly baffling to me is why anyone with a modicum of intelligence would listen to their self-referentially incoherent branch-sawing rantings. It is a mystery.

This brings me to a comment to my prior post by Mark Frank

I suspect Barry’s OP is based on a faulty idea of what an ethicist does. I am sure it is not his/her job to tell medical staff, patients and families what is the right thing to do. That would be incredibly patronising and lead to terrible problems if their own principles were very different from the person they were advising. It would be like Richard Dawkins coming along and telling the pregnant mother she ought to have an abortion because the child is disabled. I am sure their job is to help the people involved decide what is the right thing to do by pointing out precedents, consequences, different ways of looking at things etc.

Well Mark, I do have an idea about what ethicists do, and I hope it is not, as you say, faulty. I suppose that ethicists such as Singer say things about ethics and the basis for ethics (or the lack thereof) such as the Singer quotation above. Singer is a “preference utilitiarian” and in Practical Ethics he wrote concerning killing: “. . . the wrong done to the person killed is merely one factor to be taken into account, and the preference of the victim could sometimes be outweighed by the preferences of others.” (p. 95) Mark, I presume that if he were to advise someone regarding an “ethical” decision, he would bring the view that human beings are merely clever animals with no more intrinsic value than other animals and the view that granny’s desire to live may be outweighed by your desire to kill her to that conversation. Am I wrong?

By the way, I suspect Singer would apply the “except me” concept to considerations of whether his preference to live should be outweighed by someone else’s preference to kill him. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that he is an absolutist concerning the value of his own life.

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If the ethicist's job description demands that he become an unethical whore, then his primary responsibility is to dramatize the irony.StephenB
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It is interesting to remember what the 'original sin' was,,,
Genesis 3:5 "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
And it is also interesting to see Richard Dawkins exercising his knowledge of good and evil to condemn almighty God as evil,,,
Ben Stein vs. Richard Dawkins Interview - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc
At least Peter Singer, as Mr. Arrington quoted above, and Will Provine, in this following video, are somewhat more honest than Dawkins is about what an atheistic/materialistic worldview entails in the devaluing of humans and the loss of a guiding moral ethic,,
Dr. Will Provine - EXPELLED - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJ5dHtmNtU
I hold that the evidence overwhelmingly backs up Dr. Provine's assessment of the moral situation for atheist's, not Dawkin's,,,
The Moral Impact Of Darwinism On Society - Dr. Phil Fernandes - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcQfwICe2Og Atheism's detrimental effect on mortality and morality (section 11) http://creation.com/atheism
But it also interesting to note that Theists also, like the atheist Dawkins currently does, often have a severely distorted view of God. ,,, I'm reminded of this reaction from Isaiah, when Isaiah, though he was 'prophet of God', saw God for the first time...
Isaiah 6:5 Then said I, “Woe is me! For I am undone, because I am a man of unclean lips and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.”
In other words, even though Theists do not deny the reality of an objective moral ethic that is based in God's nature, many times Theists, no matter how close to God they may be percieved to be, still do not have the complete picture as to how holy God actually is. This 'set apart holiness' of God is important to remember since people, myself included, are expert at 'making god into their image', so as to rationalize, or justify, some questional, i.e. unloving, action they have done against another human being. supplemental note:
Positive after effects of Near Death Experiences,,, The Day I Died - Part 5 of 6 - (4:35 minute mark) - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3TB--jo7fU#t=275
Music:
Phillips Craig & Dean - When the stars burn down - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaj7YQZbvcY
bornagain77
September 8, 2014
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In a world where physics fixes all the facts, it’s hard to see how there could be room for moral facts. In a universe headed for its own heat death, there is no cosmic value to human life, your own or anyone else’s. Why bother to be good?
Where on earth do these people learn to reason? Or do they? I suspect they had to go to university in order to forget how to reeason.
In a world where physics fixes all the facts, it’s hard to see how there could be room for moral facts.
Alternatively, the existence of moral facts could mean that it is simply false that physics fixxeds all the facts.
In a universe headed for its own heat death, there is no cosmic value to human life, your own or anyone else’s.
Another massive non-sequitur.Mung
September 8, 2014
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We can no longer base our ethics on the idea that human beings are a special form of creation made in the image of God, singled out from all other animals, and alone possessing an immortal soul. Our better understanding of our own nature has bridged the gulf that was once thought to lie between ourselves and other species, so should we believe that the mere fact that a being is a member of the species Homo Sapiens endows its life with some unique, almost infinite value?
Man has discovered he's closely related to other animals. Surprise! Thereore, man is not related to God. What a massively huge non-sequitur. One could only wish that there was some necessary connection between well-written and well-argued.
We can no longer base our ethics on the idea that human beings are a special form of creation made in the image of God, singled out from all other animals, and alone possessing an immortal soul.
Why not?
We can no longer base our ethics on the idea that human beings are a special form of creation made in the image of God, singled out from all other animals, and alone possessing an immortal soul.
And how are we to know that isn't a straw-man? When ever was our ethics based on that idea? I wonder if Singer would not also assert: We can no longer base our republic, our individual rights and liberties, on the idea that human beings are a special form of creation made in the image of God.Mung
September 8, 2014
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Dick @ 8:
Barry’s actually asking two different questions in this post. He’s asking how a materialist can apply for a job as an ethicist and also why anyone would hire a materialist for such a job . . . The answer to the first question is simply, “Why not?”
Point taken. Singer is a good example of how to make millions spouting materialist nihilism dressed up in academic jargon.
The real mystery is the answer to the second question.
Upon reflection, there is probably a good answer to that question too. Unsurprisingly, it involves money as well. See The Best Bioethicists That Money Can Buy. The opening sentence:
‘A bioethicist is to ethics what a whore is to sex.’ That judgment by a friend who was once viewed as a pioneer of bioethics may seem somewhat harsh, but it is not entirely off the mark.
and later:
For the most part, bioethicists are in the business of issuing permission slips for whatever the technicians want to do.
Barry Arrington
September 8, 2014
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Mark Frank quotes from a clinical ethicist’s blog to establish what clinical ethicists do:
Clinical ethicists should not act as final judges about what is right or wrong in a specific case. Instead, they should function as informers and guides about the case’s ethical dimensions, as well as the ethical supportability of different solutions.
OK. Suppose a particular clinical ethicist is a materialist preference utilitarian heavily influenced by Peter Singer. We are back to the OP.
Mark, I presume that if he were to [function as an informer and guide about a case’s ethical dimensions as well as the ethical supportability of different solutions], he would bring the view that human beings are merely clever animals with no more intrinsic value than other animals and the view that granny’s desire to live may be outweighed by your desire to kill her to that conversation. Am I wrong?
Barry Arrington
September 8, 2014
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Dick #8 This is discussed at some length in the comments on the other OP. All the evidence I can find is that a clinical ethicist's job is not to judge what is right or wrong. Their role is to interpret the laws and rules of the institution and help all the parties involved come to a decision which they and the institution are as comfortable with as possible. Their own ethical views are not relevant. I would guess a moral relativist is more likely to succeed in doing this than someone who thinks they know what the objective moral truth is.Mark Frank
September 8, 2014
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Barry's actually asking two different questions in this post. He's asking how a materialist can apply for a job as an ethicist and also why anyone would hire a materialist for such a job. The answer to the first question is simply, "Why not?" For one who holds that there are no objective moral wrongs, applying for a job where he pretty much just flies by the seat of his pants, ethically speaking, is no more wrong than painting his office beige rather than white. The real mystery is the answer to the second question.Dick
September 8, 2014
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Barry I should have been more precise in my comment. When I wrote "ethicist" I meant medical or clinical ethicist as described in the link in your original OP. This, as I am sure you know, is a completely different job from that of a moral philosopher such as Peter Singer - although the term "ethicist" may confusingly be applied to both. There is a small discussion on what clinical ethicists do in your OP. TO quote from the blog one who actually does the job:
Clinical ethicists should not act as final judges about what is right or wrong in a specific case. Instead, they should function as informers and guides about the case’s ethical dimensions, as well as the ethical supportability of different solutions.
Mark Frank
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From a classic essay, Darwinian Dissonance? :
Let me make the point in a more obvious way. Here are two written accounts:
A. Two similar clusters of matter came into physical contact with each other at a single point in space and time. One cluster dominated, remaining intact; while the other began to break down into its component elements. B. A 26-year old man lost his life today in a violent and racially motivated attack, according to Thompson County police. Reginald K. Carter was at his desk when, according to eyewitness reports, Zachariah Jones, a new employee at the Clark Center, entered the building apparently carrying an illegally-obtained handgun. According to several eyewitnesses, Jones immediately walked into Carter's cubicle and shouted that "his kind should be eliminated from the earth," before shooting him several times at point-blank range.
If asked where these two fictitious excerpts came from, most would say that A was from a textbook or scientific journal, and probably describes events observed under a microscope or in a laboratory. B would be a typical example of newspaper journalism. Most people would say that, of course, they are not talking about the same thing. But could they be? Well, to the materialist, the answer is certainly negative. To those who don't take their Darwinism decaffeinated, who embrace it as a philosophy which excludes any non-natural explanations for life's origins, the answer is absolutely. B perhaps wins on style points, but the content is the same. Any outrage or emotion felt upon reading the second excerpt would be a culturally conditioned response, but not a proof that there had been anything "wrong" that had happened. In this view, A is probably the most responsible account. Nature, with its fittest members leading the way, marches on. I think I would be correct in stating that many would disagree with, or be offended by, that analysis. What I am not really sure of, and would like explained to me, is why? What is in view is not so much of a Missing Link, as much as a Missing Leap: the leap from the physical to the metaphysical. Taken as a starting point, I have no problem with quantitative assessments. They establish a baseline of knowledge for us.
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September 8, 2014
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I suppose it is easy enough to understand why. Derrida sold a lot of books and Singer sits in a lucrative, secure and comfy endowed chair at Princeton. What is truly baffling to me is why anyone with a modicum of intelligence would listen to their self-referentially incoherent branch-sawing rantings. It is a mystery.
It's interesting because Singer's views are a development of ideas that can be traced throughout the history of Princeton University. It was established originally as a school to train Christian clergy. In 1768, "Witherspoon thus believed morality was a science. It could be cultivated in his students or deduced through the development of the moral sense—an ethical compass instilled by God in all human beings and developed through education (Reid) or sociability (Hutcheson). Such an approach to morality owed more to the natural moral laws of the Enlightenment than traditional sources of Christian ethics." From that, the university eventually was secularized in the 1920s.Silver Asiatic
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The morality problem was one of the main reasons I decided to become a theist again. Of what value is being a "good" person, or even trying, if it is only in accordance to one's own whims or the ebbs and flows of popular views? I can't imagine the depth of self-deceit necessary to feel comfortable, much less satisfied, with such a facile concept of "good". That sort of good seems to me to be the sort of "good" only a sociopath or mindless drone could accept.William J Murray
September 8, 2014
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A.Rosenberg explains:
In a world where physics fixes all the facts, it’s hard to see how there could be room for moral facts. In a universe headed for its own heat death, there is no cosmic value to human life, your own or anyone else’s. Why bother to be good? We need to answer these questions. But we should also worry about the public relations nightmare for scientism produced by the answer theists try to foist on scientism. [The Atheist's Guide to Reality", ch.5]
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BTW, I suppose it should go without saying that I disagree with everything Singer says. I quote him not to show that what he says is true but to show that what he says is absurd. And if his conclusions are absurd, perhaps it is because they are based on absurd premises.Barry Arrington
September 8, 2014
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How refreshingly blunt and honest Peter Singer is. Horrifying too, but blunt and honest nevertheless. In a world without objective morality only competing preferences matter. The strong prevail; the weak succumb. On the next page Singer writes: “I am not convinced that the notion of a moral right is a helpful or meaningful one.” One can just imagine Singer standing in the crematorium at Auschwitz:
Hey, all of you Jews standing at the entrance to the ovens, stop your clamoring about your so-called ‘moral right’ not to be cooked. That notion is not helpful or even meaningful to me. Your preference not to be cooked is only one consideration after all. I am busy trying to determine if that preference is outweighed by the Nazis’ preference to kill you. Oh bother. The work of a materialist ethicist never ends.
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