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Michael Egnor: Now Dr. Ali argues with Dr. Ali

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While arguing against Michael Egnor’s view, Dr. Faizal Ali finds himself in an argument with himself:

Dr. Ali contradicts himself. First, he argues that it’s no surprise that cutting the brain in half and separating the cerebral hemispheres, as Sperry did, has no effect on abstract thought. Then he argues, in connection with Penfield’s seizure research, that abstract thought is the wholly material result of delicate complex connections within the brain: (“what is needed [for abstract thought from brain connections] is a [metaphorical] trained concert pianist”).

In short, he argues that it’s no surprise that cutting the brain in half has no effect on abstract thought, and then he argues that delicate complexity and interconnection is essential for abstract thought. Dr. Ali is debating Dr. Ali.

To understand the materialist folly better, consider the three kinds of neuroscientific evidence that can be used to evaluate materialist vs. dualist claims: correlation, evocation, and ablation.

What is abstract thought, Part II, “Can materialism explain abstract thought? Part II” at Mind Matters News

See also: A reply to Dr. Ali

Also by Michael Egnor on the immaterial mind:

Materialism is an intellectual trap, out of which neuroscience needs to climb Neurologist Steven Novella refutes himself. He first asserts that everything he knows is an illusion. Then he insists that his illusions slap him in the face with reality.

Four researchers whose work sheds light on the reality of the mind The brain can be cut in half, but the intellect and will cannot. The intellect and will are metaphysically simple

Atheist psychiatrist misunderstands the evidence for an immaterial mind. Patients with massive brain damage were shown to have a mental life.

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Materialism is an intellectual trap, out of which neuroscience needs to climb. Neurologist Steven Novella refutes himself. He first asserts that everything he knows is an illusion. Then he insists that his illusions slap him in the face with reality.

One Reply to “Michael Egnor: Now Dr. Ali argues with Dr. Ali

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    doubter says:

    Dr. Egnor’s arguments appear solid, but I am still troubled by certain physically deteriorated brain conditions that do in fact result in no or severely impaired abstract thinking capability. These conditions would be the various examples of senile dementia – in particular, Alzheimer’s. In Alzheimer’s, a foreign substance or plaque appears to “clog up” neuronal communication over large parts of the cerebral hemispheres.

    Of course, as with all such materialistic evidences, they can just as easily be explained in the filter or receiver/transmitter theory of consciousness (interactive dualism), where the operation of the brain is envisioned using the rough analogy of a TV set. In order for the program picture (the physical manifestation of consciousness) to manifest in the material world requires the material TV set to detect and process the invisible electromagnetic signals permeating the space around the TV set. The TV set in no way originates or explains the origin of the TV program.

    Disrupting the neurons and synapses of the brain could be seen as equivalent to crushing or otherwise disrupting the internal electronic parts of the TV set. The picture is severely distorted or destroyed, but certainly the EM waves carrying the TV picture signal (and the distant intelligent origin of it) are not destroyed.

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